Did you know your body has a natural fat burner?

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Glad you seem to know what you're talking about.

The world needs more informed people like you.

Nope im sticking with my carbs for training, sounds like sticking with all
Of those " no" rules will just cause stress.. Not worth it to me!

I pretty much already follow these.... But if i do want a treat i will eat it.

I think this is called "paleo"... Eating like our ancestors or whatever. I like the fact of doing so, and it just so happens non of them are fat.....hmmm..... pretty good way to eat obviously.

...yeah. I think I'd rather count calories. Restrictions like these are why diets don't work; there is so much that you can't do and so much maintenance. I mean, no bread? No noodles?

No offense. I mean, if it works for you, that is excellent. I don't think I could go without having a (diet) red bull now and then, or a sandwich or some mac n cheese. Portion-controlled, of course.

Agree.

Uh NO

NO restrictions in my diet works much better for me.

ok, so you have no idea what it's called, but you know that big long list of stuff you can't eat. Is this for real?! You just wasted 45 min of your life writing that.

ok, so you have no idea what it's called, but you know that big long list of stuff you can't eat. Is this for real?! You just wasted 45 min of your life writing that.

Please tell me it didn't take you 45 min. to read a small list....

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2. NO processed foods.
3. NO margarine (use butter instead)

How is butter not a processed food? Do you pick your butter straight from the butter tree?

And WTH is a 'processed' food anyway? Is cutting the tops off of carrots processing? What about peeling them?

As much as people around here like to demonize processed foods, I've still never seen anyone define 'processed.'

Processed means having ingredients that you cannot pronounce.

If you can pronounce all the ingredients, then it's not as processed.

Or at least thats how I like to think of it from what I've read on here.

Can you pronounce all of these?

Water, glucose, fructose, galactose, phenolic glycosides, 6-deoxyaldohexoses (fuctose and rhamnose), saccharose, galacturonans, (1-4) linked D-galactopiranuronic acid, pectin, pectinic acids, polygalacturonic acids, pectinestarase, Citric Acid, L-Malic Acid, D-Isocitric Acid, Oxalic Acid, Succinic Acid, Malonic Acid, Quinic Acid, Tartaric Acid, Adipic Acid, 2-ketogluratic Acid, praline, asparagines, aspartic acid, serine, glutamic acid and arginine. oxidoreductases, transferases, hydrolases and lyases, isomerases and ligases, glucosilglucerides, Carotenoids, tetraterpenes, limonin, aslimonoic acid A-ring lactone, neohesperidosides, flavones (3-hydroxyflavanones, 3-dydroxyflavones, O-glycosyl, aglycones C-glycosylflavones, Anthocyanins, (hesperidin, naringin, poncirin, neoheriocitrin, neohesperidin, rhoifolin, rutin, diosmin, sinensetin, auranetin, tangeritin, hydroxyethylrutinosideres, nobiletin cyanidin-3-glucoside, cyanidina-3.5-diglucoside, peonidin-5-glucoside, delphinidin-3-glucoside, petunidin-3-glucoside, Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid), Pholacine, Vitamin B6, Thiamine, Riboflavin, Biotin, Pantotenic acid, Vitamin A.

I just read that aloud. Hydroxyethylrutinosideres gave me a pause, but sounded it out and got it. It's actually fun to say, try it.

So, totally not-processed for me. What it is so I can add it to my clean diet!

It's the ingredients for an orange if I remember correctly from another post.

You got it!

And I actually cannot pronounce Hydroxyethylrutinosideres so I had better stop eating them!

I have a smoothie with an orange in it. Am I going to gain all of the weight I lost back because I also cannot pronounce Hydroxyethylrutinosideres?

Hydroxyethylrutosides are a semi synthetic flavinoid that is derived from plants. It isn't found in food unless it is put in the food. It is derived from Rutin which is the naturally occurring flavinoid. It is an anti-inflammatory. It is sometimes used in patients with venous diseases or disorders that range from varicose veins to phlebitis to hemorrhoids to reduce oedema. Perhaps there was some confusion on which one was which, because it doesn't occur naturally.

It isn't what you can and can't pronounce in the ingredients that is the problem. It is really about knowing what those ingredients are, what they do, what they were derived from, and so on, and then whether or not you feel comfortable putting that in your body. Some care about that stuff and some don't. For those who do care people will often say the rule of thumb is that if you can't pronounce it don't eat it, because if you can't pronounce it you probably don't know what it is and if it is that complicated to say it is likely a man made chemical that doesn't necessarily need to be there. It is the lazy/easy way to rule things out if you are worried about those kinds of things without having to spend a ton of time having to research every ingredient you run into that you don't recognize.

Hydroxyethylrutosides are a semi synthetic flavinoid that is derived from plants. It isn't found in food unless it is put in the food. It is derived from Rutin which is the naturally occurring flavinoid. It is an anti-inflammatory. It is sometimes used in patients with venous diseases or disorders that range from varicose veins to phlebitis to hemorrhoids to reduce oedema. Perhaps there was some confusion on which one was which, because it doesn't occur naturally.

It isn't what you can and can't pronounce in the ingredients that is the problem. It is really about knowing what those ingredients are, what they do, what they were derived from, and so on, and then whether or not you feel comfortable putting that in your body. Some care about that stuff and some don't. For those who do care people will often say the rule of thumb is that if you can't pronounce it don't eat it, because if you can't pronounce it you probably don't know what it is and if it is that complicated to say it is likely a man made chemical that doesn't necessarily need to be there. It is the lazy/easy way to rule things out if you are worried about those kinds of things without having to spend a ton of time having to research every ingredient you run into that you don't recognize.

And so an objective definition of "processed" would be... ?

Processed foods are any foods altered from it's natural state. However, when people speak of limiting or cutting out processed foods they are usually speaking about a narrower definition. In these instances people are speaking of foods that are chemically altered through additives, artificial colors, preservatives, stabilizers, fillers, and the like and/or are manufactured in a way to damage the nutritional integrity of the food, or over processed if you will. For instance someone seeking to avoid processed food in this scenario will opt for fresh carrots from the produce department over the canned variety. This is because the canned variety will often have something added for flavor and to help maintain color, and have been over cooked and sitting around so long they just don't pack the same nutritional punch as their fresh counterparts.

Of course, a lot of people that go for 'unprocessed', then do the processing themselves instead.

Ok, to be fair a lot of the time that does mean they get more micronutrients *.

And of course our stomach certainly doesn't want to output a carrort as a carrot - it does significantly more 'processing'.

* However a lot of people seem to take this way too far - a good number of these people =have other massive gaps in their 'healtiness', but somehow seem to believe that the best they can do is eat even more fresh veg!

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Processed foods are any foods altered from it's natural state. However, when people speak of limiting or cutting out processed foods they are usually speaking about a narrower definition. In these instances people are speaking of foods that are chemically altered through additives, artificial colors, preservatives, stabilizers, fillers, and the like and/or are manufactured in a way to damage the nutritional integrity of the food, or over processed if you will. For instance someone seeking to avoid processed food in this scenario will opt for fresh carrots from the produce department over the canned variety. This is because the canned variety will often have something added for flavor and to help maintain color, and have been over cooked and sitting around so long they just don't pack the same nutritional punch as their fresh counterparts.

Of course, a lot of people that go for 'unprocessed', then do the processing themselves instead.

Ok, to be fair a lot of the time that does mean they get more micronutrients *.

And of course our stomach certainly doesn't want to output a carrort as a carrot - it does significantly more 'processing'.

* However a lot of people seem to take this way too far - a good number of these people =have other massive gaps in their 'healtiness', but somehow seem to believe that the best they can do is eat even more fresh veg!

Then that is their prerogative. Just as it is yours to eat as you wish. The point I'm hoping to make is that trying to limit or avoid processed foods isn't as extreme as people think. It is not all or nothing and it isn't for everybody. It is one option in the vast world of food choices everyone has.

I find that you have included your own digestion as a method of processing unusual. You will have already eaten that food, before your body went through *that* processing. People do not typically eat the food that has gone through their digestive system once that process has actually taken place.

Edit to add: Chewing would technically be a form of processing too if you were to go by that strict of a definition.

Yeah but I'm not talking about prerogatives or choices or preferences. I'm talking about what "processed" even means. From everything I've seen, it's just a BS term people use to label foods they don't like as "bad."

That is based on your history and perception. I don't really believe any food is bad, but there are still things that don't fit into my life. As I've never thought of food as bad I wouldn't have come to that conclusion. I based my choice to eat this way on the fact I don't think I need to be eating all that extra stuff. When I realized my body liked it (improvement in everything from my skin to my stomach issues) I kept it up.