Meat & non-eat meaters (READ ME)

When they make a product that's not made of wheat gluten and doesn't make me ill, I'll consider it. If they had a non-GMO option that was wheat-free, that'd be cool too.

No painful wheat burgers for me, thanks.

Because tasty, tasty meat...

very tasty tasty meat

Last month, I had Morningstar burger at a Super Bowl party. Then later had a big meatball, they were both yummy. IMO, the Morningstar burger is healthier than ground beef. Every food has its positives and negatives, my concern with the Morningstar burger is the sodium content. Also, the processing destroys some of the antioxidants called isoflavones.

Shelled edamame is a great alternative to both. They are unprocessed, whole foods which are a very good source of protein, fiber and antioxidants. For those concerned about non-organic foods, organic edamame is readily available is grocery stores.

I'm glad the Original Poster started this thread. Food swaps or small chunking is a great way to eat healthier or improve oneself. Every once in awhile I catch "Hungry Girl" on TV and she has terrific ideas for food swaps.

I'm vegan and find this thread to be obnoxious.

What did you expect, OP? People to look up and say "yeah, you know that sounds like a great idea". All this does is gives people a venue to sing praises for meat.

Lol ... Drama, drama, drama.

It is obnoxious... Your comment is obnoxious too.
So it's hypocritical of you to say the post is when you are.

Lol it's the INTERNET as I just typed. Relax, geesh. You don't like this topic? Click the X. That's the simple thing about the internet. You can SIMPLY x out your problem. Save the drama for real life, lol. But as most people do, it's easier to fight a battle over the internet, right? Hiding behind a screen?

When you open up a forum on the internet, you're inviting people's opinions - whether they agree with you or not. If you aren't prepared to handle that, write it in a diary. As they say, if you can't handle the heat, get outta the kitchen. I found your post on a public forum to be counterproductive, and I don't think it's that much of an issue to tell you that.

I would love for people to turn to veggie burgers instead of meat burgers and make more compassionate choices. But things like this are completely counterproductive, and actually winds up encouraging people to do what you'd rather they didn't. And I find that upsetting.

I agree. I don't like to be converted.. this thread sounds like some kind of promo for Morning Star

^This.

If I'm going to be a vegetarian, I'm going to eat vegetables and natural foods, not ones designed to simulate meat. And the ingredients in Bocas and Morningstar are probably as bad for you as anything else out there. If you want to eat meat, eat meat. If you want to be a vegetarian, be a vegetarian, but looking to artificial stuff to simulate meat sort of seems nearly disingenuous.

There are plenty of natural, clean foods available if you want to be a vegetarian.

They taste disgusting to me. I'd rather have a salad than a fake burger.

because why?

I'm sure most all of you have heard of Morning Star foods.
Why not substitute?
On a night you're going to have burgers, why not have a vege burger? They are so delicious.
Chicken nuggets, why not Morning Stars?
So much less fat, no grease, all entirely healthy & delicious.

Yes, pricey. But who has burgers every night? Who has chicken nuggets every night? I know I don't. Though Morning Star is delicious.. & It does tempt me to make one. Yummy yummy substitution

Nah, you're alright. I'll just have some fresh vegetables instead of whatever that is in that packet.


Why don't you consider substituting your processed meat imitation for some fresh cooked lean animal flesh instead? Or would that be offensive to you to be told what to eat?

Works both ways, you see....

I'm not offended at all.
I eat fresh cooked animal & processed meat imitation. & You said "Why don't you consider" you didn't say "YOU MUST DO THIS!" So I'm alright with it

Cool. I don't intend to offend. But after a while, evangelising begins to grate on the nerves, so another person asking why you do or don't eat something gets a harsher response.

And in any case, a large flat mushroom tastes a whole lot better than that crud.

:drinker:

I'm sure most all of you have heard of Morning Star foods.
Why not substitute?
On a night you're going to have burgers, why not have a vege burger? They are so delicious.
Chicken nuggets, why not Morning Stars?
So much less fat, no grease, all entirely healthy & delicious.

Yes, pricey. But who has burgers every night? Who has chicken nuggets every night? I know I don't. Though Morning Star is delicious.. & It does tempt me to make one. Yummy yummy substitution

1) Because meat tastes better
2) Meat is cheaper
3) Because fresh tastes better
4) Because there's no downside to meat

The implication in "why not substitute" is "this frozen meat-free product, made with about 35 ingredients, is inherently better in some undefined way than ground beef."

My question to you is:

Why substitute?

Boca burgers are amazing! I ate them a lot when I had a limited "menu" due to medical issues.

Boca vegetarian burgers are also very delicious, and cheap.

never could understand why people buy food that looks like meat when they don't wanna eat meat

/agree

And you can smell it when they sweat.

All animal products have ZERO fiber. Instead all animal products have cholesterol. ALL.

Plants have fiber. They are the ONLY source for dietary fiber. And plants have ZERO cholesterol. No plant has any cholesterol in it.

Choose foods made from plants. In fact, make plants your food, and combine them yourself in delicious ways, instead of relying on a company to combine them into a food for you.