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Cardio doesn't burn fat!!!
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my day consists of cardio AND lifting!! I usually run a bit, do a video like 30 day shred and I also Lift following Jamie Eason's 12 week plan off of Bodybuilding.com.....I have lost 53 lbs since october;)0
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I don't do more than a 1/2 hr of cardio at a time. I don't want to burn muscle. I only burn a measly 145 calories when on the elliptical. I just do it to feel good.0
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Weird... I swear I lost fifteen pounds of fat after I started running. Maybe I'm confused.....0
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The guy who made this thread is seriously uneducated,0
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Lets see, if I sit on the couch and watch tv for 2 hours I will lose the same amount of fat as I will if I go out and do cardio for those 2 hours. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense to me. Not. But I do agree weight lifting is great for muscle building which also helps to burn more calories.0
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After reading all these posts, I think the point he was "trying" to make was at the end of the day deficit is a deficit if you have a deficit you will lose weight, but muscle burns more calories than fat does, Sooo by lifting and gaining more muscle you will there for burn more fat...... But you will still burn fat doing only cardio just not as quickly........ Right..... well at least that's what I got out of it. Now lets all have a protein shake and try to get along lol :bigsmile:
OK, so we are assuming all calories are eaten back, from either the cardio or weight lifting, right?
And the person is dieting. We'll assume the same calories burned doing both.
If it is true that you can't gain muscle while in a calorie deficit situation then we aren't adding muscles here. Are we just talking about lifting protecting us from LBM loss that cardio only can lead to?0 -
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Thanks to the OP I can put my running shoes away and dismiss numerous studies on cardio and fat oxidation..... Not0
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This is 100% FALSE. Cardio exercise accelerates weight loss. There is NO doubt about it. God, some people are D-U-M-B.0
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Your post really made me think. Cardio does seem like borderline eating disorder in a way too, burning calories and then eating them. It's like binging and purging, except you do the purging before the binging lol
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Your post really made me think. Cardio does seem like borderline eating disorder in a way too, burning calories and then eating them. It's like binging and purging, except you do the purging before the binging lol
Wow, you're quite the little steroidian troll (I rarely use the word troll).
You're assuming everyone doing cardio is on the very oddly set up MFP...Most of the world doesn't function in the realm of "eat back".
I suppose we could talk about bodybuilding....
this ^^
i had never been told to eat back the calories that i had worked so hard to burn off until i joined this site.. most people don't eat back their calories, so no, cardio exercise is NOT like an eating disorder. when you binge and purge you eat you eat an extremely large amount of food and then PUKE it back up.
eating an extra granola bar, yogurt, cup of cereal, etc (for example) because you burnt off 200 extra calories on the treadmill is not even close to the same thing as bulimia. sorry to tell you.0 -
As soon as Insanity is over, I am DONE with cardio videos. Spring is coming and I will be hitting the courts for my cardio, dunking on the youngin's.
Going straight to strength training. 6 reps max per exercise. Full on "lift a damn car" strength training. Not for size though some of that will come too. Just focusing strength.0 -
It's only recently, maybe within the last few decades, that people who got cardiovascular exercise started getting it by things like "aerobics" and elliptical/treadmill/etc machines. I can't stand any of that stuff either, and I wouldn't do it if that was the only option. But I get lots of "cardio" by various forms of recreation like swimming, kayaking, biking, and playing games that involve moving your body.
I find it weird that we've built this society where you don't have to use your body to make things happen, and then built a bunch of machines and gyms etc so we can spend our free time using our body anyway. (And not even in a fun way.)0 -
Im pretty new on MFP, but, this post reminds me of Ford versus Chevy arguments.0
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Lets see, if I sit on the couch and watch tv for 2 hours I will lose the same amount of fat as I will if I go out and do cardio for those 2 hours. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense to me. Not. But I do agree weight lifting is great for muscle building which also helps to burn more calories.
If you ate less, yes you would. How much more simple can a concept be to understand?0 -
So me jogging on the treadmill or going for 5 mi walks aren't burning calories which in turn isn't helping me lose weight? I don't eat back my exercise calories. It doesn't boost up my metabolism either??0
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Im pretty new on MFP, but, this post reminds me of Ford versus Chevy arguments.
Chevy, every time0 -
Lets see, if I sit on the couch and watch tv for 2 hours I will lose the same amount of fat as I will if I go out and do cardio for those 2 hours. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense to me. Not. But I do agree weight lifting is great for muscle building which also helps to burn more calories.
If you ate less, yes you would. How much more simple can a concept be to understand?
let's see if you can figure out for yourself why you are wrong. here's an example.
#1) 400lb morbidly obese person. eats at a 1000 calorie per day deficit. does no cardio. lifts weights.
in this case, no muscle mass increase is expected because person is eating at a deficit. all weight loss (fat loss) is due to the eating deficit.
#2) 400lb morbidly obese person. eats at a 1000 calorie per day deficit. does 750 calories of cardio. DOES NOT eat back these calories. lifts weights.
in this case, no muscle mass increase is expected because person is eating at a deficit. muscle loss should be minimal. 57% of fat loss is due to the eating deficit. 43% is due to cardio.
can you figure out the difference?0 -
Cardio is one important part of a healthy lifestyle. The conditioning is critical to optimal fitness. Long endurance cardio alone is not the best for the metabolism though. Interval training ( the combination of strength traing and cardio) is a good way to improve on either alone.0
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Lets see, if I sit on the couch and watch tv for 2 hours I will lose the same amount of fat as I will if I go out and do cardio for those 2 hours. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense to me. Not. But I do agree weight lifting is great for muscle building which also helps to burn more calories.
If you ate less, yes you would. How much more simple can a concept be to understand?
let's see if you can figure out for yourself why you are wrong. here's an example.
#1) 400lb morbidly obese person. eats at a 1000 calorie per day deficit. does no cardio. lifts weights.
in this case, no muscle mass increase is expected because person is eating at a deficit. all weight loss (fat loss) is due to the eating deficit.
#2) 400lb morbidly obese person. eats at a 1000 calorie per day deficit. does 750 calories of cardio. DOES NOT eat back these calories. lifts weights.
in this case, no muscle mass increase is expected because person is eating at a deficit. muscle loss should be minimal. 57% of fat loss is due to the eating deficit. 43% is due to cardio.
can you figure out the difference?
If both the 1st person eats at a 1,750 cals deficit, both scenarios are identical in terms of body composition. And no, cardio doesn't help you retain muscle mass in any significant way.0
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