Eating Pop Tarts and ice cream daily.

and partially hydrogenated vegetable oils are found in a plethora of processed junk foods. thus the issue.

Sounds reasonable although I think this a dosage question. The body proves to be remarkable resilient if adequate nutrition is catered for (in my opinion.)

but in your example, if someone filled those 375 cal with food containing trans fats like PHVO daily, it could absolutely cause issues. the recommendation is no more than 2g of trans fats/day, which is 18 calories worth...

a calorie is not always a calorie.

Considering poptarts don't contain trans-fats, how is this relevant to the topic at hand?

Lawyered.

I maintain my original stance that Toaster Strudel is superior, if only for the icing drawings.

I've never seen S'mores Toaster Strudel.

Apparently, you weren't looking hard enough

*Gasp!* You shut right up! I think I need to go to the store. Like right now.

and partially hydrogenated vegetable oils are found in a plethora of processed junk foods. thus the issue.

Sounds reasonable although I think this a dosage question. The body proves to be remarkable resilient if adequate nutrition is catered for (in my opinion.)

but in your example, if someone filled those 375 cal with food containing trans fats like PHVO daily, it could absolutely cause issues. the recommendation is no more than 2g of trans fats/day, which is 18 calories worth...

a calorie is not always a calorie.

Considering poptarts don't contain trans-fats, how is this relevant to the topic at hand?

Now you know Reddy isn't happy unless he's changing the subject of the thread :laugh:

i'm going to buy pop tarts and toaster strudels this evening. i will perform experiments. but these experiments will be biased.

I have to be honest. I've been cheating on poptarts with toaster strudels. Honestly, they are a lot better than I remember them to be (it's been almost a decade, I think, since I last had one). I still love my poptarts, but toaster strudels are a nice treat to mix in with them.

and partially hydrogenated vegetable oils are found in a plethora of processed junk foods. thus the issue.

Sounds reasonable although I think this a dosage question. The body proves to be remarkable resilient if adequate nutrition is catered for (in my opinion.)

but in your example, if someone filled those 375 cal with food containing trans fats like PHVO daily, it could absolutely cause issues. the recommendation is no more than 2g of trans fats/day, which is 18 calories worth...

a calorie is not always a calorie.

Considering poptarts don't contain trans-fats, how is this relevant to the topic at hand?

oh ok, see I was under the impression the point of the thread was "you can eat whatever you want and still lose weight" - if it's simply about pop tarts and ice cream, then sure, eat them as long as they make up 10-20% of your daily cal or less, as suggested by mfern123

Yo, did you read the thread (like all 20+ pages)? Pretty sure it's mostly about poptarts and ice cream...

and partially hydrogenated vegetable oils are found in a plethora of processed junk foods. thus the issue.

Sounds reasonable although I think this a dosage question. The body proves to be remarkable resilient if adequate nutrition is catered for (in my opinion.)

but in your example, if someone filled those 375 cal with food containing trans fats like PHVO daily, it could absolutely cause issues. the recommendation is no more than 2g of trans fats/day, which is 18 calories worth...

a calorie is not always a calorie.

Considering poptarts don't contain trans-fats, how is this relevant to the topic at hand?

oh ok, see I was under the impression the point of the thread was "you can eat whatever you want and still lose weight" - if it's simply about pop tarts and ice cream, then sure, eat them as long as they make up 10-20% of your daily cal or less, as suggested by mfern123

I can see how you could of missed that in the topic heading so no worries.......:drinker:

I WISH!!!!

oh ok, see I was under the impression the point of the thread was "you can eat whatever you want and still lose weight" - if it's simply about pop tarts and ice cream, then sure, eat them as long as they make up 10-20% of your daily cal or less, as suggested by mfern123

I don't know if that was the subject at hand - I haven't read the first part. That was a general point I made.

I have to say I know of very few people on here who advocate "eat whatever you want without reference to adequate nutrition first". I think the only real case where that applies is morbidly obese people where the benefits of losing weight quickly due to imminent health concerns (organ failure or the like) offsets the potential nutritional downsides...

and partially hydrogenated vegetable oils are found in a plethora of processed junk foods. thus the issue.

Sounds reasonable although I think this a dosage question. The body proves to be remarkable resilient if adequate nutrition is catered for (in my opinion.)

but in your example, if someone filled those 375 cal with food containing trans fats like PHVO daily, it could absolutely cause issues. the recommendation is no more than 2g of trans fats/day, which is 18 calories worth...

a calorie is not always a calorie.

Considering poptarts don't contain trans-fats, how is this relevant to the topic at hand?

oh ok, see I was under the impression the point of the thread was "you can eat whatever you want and still lose weight" - if it's simply about pop tarts and ice cream, then sure, eat them as long as they make up 10-20% of your daily cal or less, as suggested by mfern123

As I suggested on the other thread - and even though it has been asked of you before...understand what IIFYM means before throwing out arguments against it. It is more like a IIFYMm (with lillle m to be micros as well). Of course, people apply it differently, but it is not automatically ignoring the little m.

and partially hydrogenated vegetable oils are found in a plethora of processed junk foods. thus the issue.

Sounds reasonable although I think this a dosage question. The body proves to be remarkable resilient if adequate nutrition is catered for (in my opinion.)

but in your example, if someone filled those 375 cal with food containing trans fats like PHVO daily, it could absolutely cause issues. the recommendation is no more than 2g of trans fats/day, which is 18 calories worth...

a calorie is not always a calorie.

Considering poptarts don't contain trans-fats, how is this relevant to the topic at hand?

oh ok, see I was under the impression the point of the thread was "you can eat whatever you want and still lose weight" - if it's simply about pop tarts and ice cream, then sure, eat them as long as they make up 10-20% of your daily cal or less, as suggested by mfern123

As I suggested on the other thread - and even though it has been asked of you before...understand what IIFYM means before throwing out arguments against it. It is more like a IIFYMm (with lillle m to be micros as well). Of course, people apply it differently, but it is not automatically ignoring the little m.

if it's got the little m I'm totally behind it.

I would like to second the motion that toaster strudel is tastier than pop tarts.
Thank you for your consideration

No, just no. I used to have so much respect for you, Taso. I'd watch your posts from afar, nodding in agreement and taking to heart your sage advice. Now, I just don't know.

Seriously though, in 500+ responses since my OP no one has actually shown me why they're labeled as "junk" food (pop tarts). I'm especially curious as to how ice cream can be labeled as such? Is it the sugar-phobia?

Edited for horrid grammar

I can tell you, my ice cream is not junk.

I wonder if anyone has said screw it and just had them both together....

What together?