Is diet pop REALLY that bad fro you????

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  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    What is interesting is that no one commented on the way that aspartame came on the market, which has a bearing on the OP.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    QUANTUM PHYSICS IS EXPLAINING THESE THEORIES NOW. Maybe you should read about it.

    I'm currently pursuing my doctorate in Quantum Communication. You couldn't be more wrong.

    It's the internet, of course these homeopathic people know quantum physics.... duh!

    Seems legit
  • judydelo1
    judydelo1 Posts: 281 Member
    What is interesting is that no one commented on the way that aspartame came on the market, which has a bearing on the OP.

    I did : ) Yes it's the most important post related to the OP! ANd it is interesting that other than me, no one has mentioned it!!!
  • NaBroski
    NaBroski Posts: 206
    What is interesting is that no one commented on the way that aspartame came on the market, which has a bearing on the OP.

    I did : ) Yes it's the most important post related to the OP! ANd it is interesting that other than me, no one has mentioned it!!!


    The original controversy is probably the reason why aspartame has been one of the most rigorously studied substances ever introduced. Hence the mountain of evidence supporting its safety.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    What is interesting is that no one commented on the way that aspartame came on the market, which has a bearing on the OP.

    I did : ) Yes it's the most important post related to the OP! ANd it is interesting that other than me, no one has mentioned it!!!

    Yes, you're right---sorry, I missed your response in all the stuff that was flying back and forth. And I agree that it is very relevant to the discussion but being ignored by those who want to believe that aspartame is perfectly safe.
  • smittieaj
    smittieaj Posts: 151 Member
    What is interesting is that no one commented on the way that aspartame came on the market, which has a bearing on the OP.

    I did : ) Yes it's the most important post related to the OP! ANd it is interesting that other than me, no one has mentioned it!!!

    Yes, you're right---sorry, I missed your response in all the stuff that was flying back and forth. And I agree that it is very relevant to the discussion but being ignored by those who want to believe that aspartame is perfectly safe.

    We don't "want to believe" anything. We rely on evidence INSTEAD of belief.
  • chessgeekdavidb
    chessgeekdavidb Posts: 208 Member
    What is interesting is that no one commented on the way that aspartame came on the market, which has a bearing on the OP.

    I did : ) Yes it's the most important post related to the OP! ANd it is interesting that other than me, no one has mentioned it!!!


    The original controversy is probably the reason why aspartame has been one of the most rigorously studied substances ever introduced. Hence the mountain of evidence supporting its safety.

    I agree with a lot of what you say but I just have to make a slight point. You can not prove something is safe with the food testing, you can only prove the absence of side effects from the test. That said, aspartame is the most tested food additive ever and nothing negative has ever been proven in any legitimate study.
  • judydelo1
    judydelo1 Posts: 281 Member
    For those saying homeopathy is just a placebo effect . . . tell it to these mice. Next you'll be telling me that mice as susceptible to the placebo effect also.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22818235
  • NaBroski
    NaBroski Posts: 206
    For those saying homeopathy is just a placebo effect . . . tell it to these mice. Next you'll be telling me that mice as susceptible to the placebo effect also.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22818235

    LULZ.

    The article was published in a journal titled "Homeopathy".

    I'm sure the peer-review process was brutal.
  • spambubbles
    spambubbles Posts: 36 Member
    I have only read negative information about artificial sweeteners, so I try to stay away from them as much as possible. Have you tried drinking flavored sparkling water? That helps me when I'm craving a soda but don't want to drink my calories.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    What is interesting is that no one commented on the way that aspartame came on the market, which has a bearing on the OP.

    I did : ) Yes it's the most important post related to the OP! ANd it is interesting that other than me, no one has mentioned it!!!


    The original controversy is probably the reason why aspartame has been one of the most rigorously studied substances ever introduced. Hence the mountain of evidence supporting its safety.

    Poppycock. http://www.wnho.net/aspartame_brain_damage.htm
  • smittieaj
    smittieaj Posts: 151 Member
    For those saying homeopathy is just a placebo effect . . . tell it to these mice. Next you'll be telling me that mice as susceptible to the placebo effect also.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22818235

    You seem tenacious. Why don't you crack open a book about skepticism, and have an informative evening?
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    What is interesting is that no one commented on the way that aspartame came on the market, which has a bearing on the OP.

    I did : ) Yes it's the most important post related to the OP! ANd it is interesting that other than me, no one has mentioned it!!!

    Yes, you're right---sorry, I missed your response in all the stuff that was flying back and forth. And I agree that it is very relevant to the discussion but being ignored by those who want to believe that aspartame is perfectly safe.

    We don't "want to believe" anything. We rely on evidence INSTEAD of belief.

    Oh? Try this on for evidence: http://www.wnho.net/aspartame_brain_damage.htm
  • RunningMannn
    RunningMannn Posts: 135
    Never did like diet drinks..But I love my coke..That's one thing I haven't given up..Still losing weight though....
  • smittieaj
    smittieaj Posts: 151 Member
    What is interesting is that no one commented on the way that aspartame came on the market, which has a bearing on the OP.

    I did : ) Yes it's the most important post related to the OP! ANd it is interesting that other than me, no one has mentioned it!!!

    Yes, you're right---sorry, I missed your response in all the stuff that was flying back and forth. And I agree that it is very relevant to the discussion but being ignored by those who want to believe that aspartame is perfectly safe.

    We don't "want to believe" anything. We rely on evidence INSTEAD of belief.

    Oh? Try this on for evidence: http://www.wnho.net/aspartame_brain_damage.htm

    Hahahaha.... are you trolling me? Find a source from peer reviewed MEDICAL research, and we'll be in business.
  • judydelo1
    judydelo1 Posts: 281 Member
    For those saying homeopathy is just a placebo effect . . . tell it to these mice. Next you'll be telling me that mice as susceptible to the placebo effect also.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22818235

    You seem tenacious. Why don't you crack open a book about skepticism, and have an informative evening?

    I don't have to be skeptical about homeopathy when I've seen it work over and over first hand.
  • rodow
    rodow Posts: 26
    OP, I've solved this. Prepare a homeopathic solution of aspartame and drink some after every diet soda. You'll be fine.
  • NaBroski
    NaBroski Posts: 206
    What is interesting is that no one commented on the way that aspartame came on the market, which has a bearing on the OP.

    I did : ) Yes it's the most important post related to the OP! ANd it is interesting that other than me, no one has mentioned it!!!

    Yes, you're right---sorry, I missed your response in all the stuff that was flying back and forth. And I agree that it is very relevant to the discussion but being ignored by those who want to believe that aspartame is perfectly safe.

    We don't "want to believe" anything. We rely on evidence INSTEAD of belief.

    Oh? Try this on for evidence: http://www.wnho.net/aspartame_brain_damage.htm


    EL-OH-EL

    Great source there

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    No agenda there.
  • NaBroski
    NaBroski Posts: 206
    For those saying homeopathy is just a placebo effect . . . tell it to these mice. Next you'll be telling me that mice as susceptible to the placebo effect also.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22818235

    You seem tenacious. Why don't you crack open a book about skepticism, and have an informative evening?

    This

    Start here:

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  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    What is interesting is that no one commented on the way that aspartame came on the market, which has a bearing on the OP.

    I did : ) Yes it's the most important post related to the OP! ANd it is interesting that other than me, no one has mentioned it!!!

    Yes, you're right---sorry, I missed your response in all the stuff that was flying back and forth. And I agree that it is very relevant to the discussion but being ignored by those who want to believe that aspartame is perfectly safe.

    We don't "want to believe" anything. We rely on evidence INSTEAD of belief.

    Oh? Try this on for evidence: http://www.wnho.net/aspartame_brain_damage.htm

    Hahahaha.... are you trolling me? Find a source from peer reviewed MEDICAL research, and we'll be in business.

    No one is doing medical research on it anymore because it is considered a closed subject. But that doesn't mean that it is safe--only that the subject has been abandoned.
  • smittieaj
    smittieaj Posts: 151 Member
    For those saying homeopathy is just a placebo effect . . . tell it to these mice. Next you'll be telling me that mice as susceptible to the placebo effect also.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22818235

    You seem tenacious. Why don't you crack open a book about skepticism, and have an informative evening?

    I don't have to be skeptical about homeopathy when I've seen it work over and over first hand.

    When you read about skepticism, you'll learn about how this is anecdotal evidence, and is unreliable for numerous reasons. Seriously, what harm could learning a new subject do to you?
  • NaBroski
    NaBroski Posts: 206


    I don't have to be skeptical about homeopathy when I've seen it work over and over first hand.

    And herein lies the problem.

    Rather than critically evaluating the causal relationship, you believe what you want to believe and look for justification for your beliefs. Welcome to the wonderful and wacky world of cognitive dissonance.
  • judydelo1
    judydelo1 Posts: 281 Member
    For those saying homeopathy is just a placebo effect . . . tell it to these mice. Next you'll be telling me that mice as susceptible to the placebo effect also.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22818235

    You seem tenacious. Why don't you crack open a book about skepticism, and have an informative evening?

    I don't have to be skeptical about homeopathy when I've seen it work over and over first hand.

    When you read about skepticism, you'll learn about how this is anecdotal evidence, and is unreliable for numerous reasons. Seriously, what harm could learning a new subject do to you?

    Again, I don't have to be skeptical about that study because I've seen homeopathy work countless times first hand. If you did you'd know what I mean. Would you be skeptical about the effectiveness of antibiotics if you didn't like the way a study was conducted?
  • smittieaj
    smittieaj Posts: 151 Member
    For those saying homeopathy is just a placebo effect . . . tell it to these mice. Next you'll be telling me that mice as susceptible to the placebo effect also.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22818235

    You seem tenacious. Why don't you crack open a book about skepticism, and have an informative evening?

    I don't have to be skeptical about homeopathy when I've seen it work over and over first hand.

    When you read about skepticism, you'll learn about how this is anecdotal evidence, and is unreliable for numerous reasons. Seriously, what harm could learning a new subject do to you?

    Again, I don't have to be skeptical about that study because I've seen homeopathy work countless times first hand. If you did you'd know what I mean. Would you be skeptical about the effectiveness of antibiotics if you didn't like the way a study was conducted?

    In the absence of all the evidence that modern science has provided us.... YES!
  • judydelo1
    judydelo1 Posts: 281 Member
    For those saying homeopathy is just a placebo effect . . . tell it to these mice. Next you'll be telling me that mice as susceptible to the placebo effect also.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22818235

    You seem tenacious. Why don't you crack open a book about skepticism, and have an informative evening?

    I don't have to be skeptical about homeopathy when I've seen it work over and over first hand.

    When you read about skepticism, you'll learn about how this is anecdotal evidence, and is unreliable for numerous reasons. Seriously, what harm could learning a new subject do to you?

    Again, I don't have to be skeptical about that study because I've seen homeopathy work countless times first hand. If you did you'd know what I mean. Would you be skeptical about the effectiveness of antibiotics if you didn't like the way a study was conducted?

    In the absence of all the evidence that modern science has provided us.... YES!

    I guess you haven't experienced first hand positive effects from them over and over to know first hand the results so you have to rely on a study to tell you what's up.
  • smittieaj
    smittieaj Posts: 151 Member
    For those saying homeopathy is just a placebo effect . . . tell it to these mice. Next you'll be telling me that mice as susceptible to the placebo effect also.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22818235

    You seem tenacious. Why don't you crack open a book about skepticism, and have an informative evening?

    I don't have to be skeptical about homeopathy when I've seen it work over and over first hand.

    When you read about skepticism, you'll learn about how this is anecdotal evidence, and is unreliable for numerous reasons. Seriously, what harm could learning a new subject do to you?

    Again, I don't have to be skeptical about that study because I've seen homeopathy work countless times first hand. If you did you'd know what I mean. Would you be skeptical about the effectiveness of antibiotics if you didn't like the way a study was conducted?

    In the absence of all the evidence that modern science has provided us.... YES!

    I guess you haven't experienced first hand positive effects from them over and over to know first hand the results so you have to rely on a study to tell you what's up.

    People could tell me about their first hand experience with voodoo, the holy spirit, bloody mary, demons, or bigfoot.... should I believe them?
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    For those saying homeopathy is just a placebo effect . . . tell it to these mice. Next you'll be telling me that mice as susceptible to the placebo effect also.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22818235

    You seem tenacious. Why don't you crack open a book about skepticism, and have an informative evening?

    I don't have to be skeptical about homeopathy when I've seen it work over and over first hand.

    When you read about skepticism, you'll learn about how this is anecdotal evidence, and is unreliable for numerous reasons. Seriously, what harm could learning a new subject do to you?

    Again, I don't have to be skeptical about that study because I've seen homeopathy work countless times first hand. If you did you'd know what I mean. Would you be skeptical about the effectiveness of antibiotics if you didn't like the way a study was conducted?

    In the absence of all the evidence that modern science has provided us.... YES!

    I guess you haven't experienced first hand positive effects from them over and over to know first hand the results so you have to rely on a study to tell you what's up.

    People could tell me about their first hand experience with voodoo, the holy spirit, bloody mary, demons, or bigfoot.... should I believe them?

    :laugh:
  • melindanew
    melindanew Posts: 150 Member
    For those saying homeopathy is just a placebo effect . . . tell it to these mice. Next you'll be telling me that mice as susceptible to the placebo effect also.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22818235

    You seem tenacious. Why don't you crack open a book about skepticism, and have an informative evening?

    I don't have to be skeptical about homeopathy when I've seen it work over and over first hand.

    When you read about skepticism, you'll learn about how this is anecdotal evidence, and is unreliable for numerous reasons. Seriously, what harm could learning a new subject do to you?

    Again, I don't have to be skeptical about that study because I've seen homeopathy work countless times first hand. If you did you'd know what I mean. Would you be skeptical about the effectiveness of antibiotics if you didn't like the way a study was conducted?

    In the absence of all the evidence that modern science has provided us.... YES!

    I guess you haven't experienced first hand positive effects from them over and over to know first hand the results so you have to rely on a study to tell you what's up.

    People could tell me about their first hand experience with voodoo, the holy spirit, bloody mary, demons, or bigfoot.... should I believe them?

    Be careful. James Randi took an overdose of homeopathic sleeping pills. AND HE DIED!

    Wait, no, he actually didn't die. Did take the overdose. See here: http://www.ted.com/talks/james_randi.html

    If water has a memory, and we have sewers, well...I guess it remembers some pretty icky stuff.
  • judydelo1
    judydelo1 Posts: 281 Member
    For those saying homeopathy is just a placebo effect . . . tell it to these mice. Next you'll be telling me that mice as susceptible to the placebo effect also.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22818235

    You seem tenacious. Why don't you crack open a book about skepticism, and have an informative evening?

    I don't have to be skeptical about homeopathy when I've seen it work over and over first hand.

    When you read about skepticism, you'll learn about how this is anecdotal evidence, and is unreliable for numerous reasons. Seriously, what harm could learning a new subject do to you?

    Again, I don't have to be skeptical about that study because I've seen homeopathy work countless times first hand. If you did you'd know what I mean. Would you be skeptical about the effectiveness of antibiotics if you didn't like the way a study was conducted?

    In the absence of all the evidence that modern science has provided us.... YES!

    I guess you haven't experienced first hand positive effects from them over and over to know first hand the results so you have to rely on a study to tell you what's up.

    People could tell me about their first hand experience with voodoo, the holy spirit, bloody mary, demons, or bigfoot.... should I believe them?

    You know that's not what I am saying. So stop trying to make me seem like a naive, gullible idiot. What I'm saying is that I believe homeopathy works because my family and I have been using it instead of allopathic medication for over 30 years and it has worked in various situations. So, I am not skeptical of that study even though it doesn't meet your standards. If you knew something worked from a lifetime of experiences, then you wouldn't be skeptical of a study just because you didn't like who conducted it, etc.
  • smittieaj
    smittieaj Posts: 151 Member
    For those saying homeopathy is just a placebo effect . . . tell it to these mice. Next you'll be telling me that mice as susceptible to the placebo effect also.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22818235

    You seem tenacious. Why don't you crack open a book about skepticism, and have an informative evening?

    I don't have to be skeptical about homeopathy when I've seen it work over and over first hand.

    When you read about skepticism, you'll learn about how this is anecdotal evidence, and is unreliable for numerous reasons. Seriously, what harm could learning a new subject do to you?

    Again, I don't have to be skeptical about that study because I've seen homeopathy work countless times first hand. If you did you'd know what I mean. Would you be skeptical about the effectiveness of antibiotics if you didn't like the way a study was conducted?

    In the absence of all the evidence that modern science has provided us.... YES!

    I guess you haven't experienced first hand positive effects from them over and over to know first hand the results so you have to rely on a study to tell you what's up.

    People could tell me about their first hand experience with voodoo, the holy spirit, bloody mary, demons, or bigfoot.... should I believe them?

    You know that's not what I am saying. So stop trying to make me seem like a naive, gullible idiot. What I'm saying is that I believe homeopathy works because my family and I have been using it instead of allopathic medication for over 30 years and it has worked in various situations. So, I am not skeptical of that study even though it doesn't meet your standards. If you knew something worked from a lifetime of experiences, then you wouldn't be skeptical of a study just because you didn't like who conducted it, etc.

    I don't doubt that you, and your beliefs are sincere. I understand that you are not a fool. I only reject the notion of forming opinions based on tales of others experiences. Pick up that book that was recommended earlier in the thread. I think that you'll find that we have more in common than you know.

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