Vegan Cat help!!

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  • AllonsYtotheTardis
    AllonsYtotheTardis Posts: 16,947 Member
    My cat's not vegan, so I buy him mice at the pet store and put them in a confined part of the house so he can still hunt in the winter. I might get him a hamster ball, so the he can play with the food first. Naturally, I will leave the house while this is going on.
  • redraidergirl2009
    redraidergirl2009 Posts: 2,560 Member
    people need to chill

    Thank you. I completely agree. Everyone acts like I'm some menace when the reality is domesticates animals can and SHOULD live in a peaceful AND healthy manner.

    Everyone keep attacking me because of their own misconceptions on eating meat.

    I'm vegetarian and I think what you're doing is wrong. What boggles my mind is that you came here asking people questions and you aren't willing to at least look into the info they have given you. Is this an april fools joke?
  • cidalia73
    cidalia73 Posts: 107 Member
    Also I'm pretty sure cats in the wild DID eat a lot of plant matter naturally. Furthermore, if I was so worried about what they naturally ate shouldn't I be feeding them whole mice and birds? Human beings have adapted just fine to being vegans and I'm sure Nadia will too.

    Cats eat some plant matter. But they are obligate carnivores. That means that, if they ate only plant matter in the wild, they would get sick and DIE. We can't compare their bodies to ours and say that human beings have adapted just fine to being vegans. Our bodies are very different from a cat's body. If you insists on making Nadia vegan, you HAVE to get commercial preparations and supplements or she WILL get very sick.
  • megsmom2
    megsmom2 Posts: 2,362 Member
    I hope to God this is an April Fool joke. Cats are obligate carnivores. Dogs can make do on other things if you're careful, but cats need meat. Its immoral and sick to do this to a cat. If you don't want to feed her what she needs...please give her to someone who will.
  • BurtHuttz
    BurtHuttz Posts: 3,653 Member
    The so called "cat food" has less meat in it than soy these days for all these people saying that cats are carnivores. This a bunch of phooey. The canned cat food that comes out of China is meat only in the most loose definition of the word! Cats have been domesticated and can eat food now.
  • megsmom2
    megsmom2 Posts: 2,362 Member
    Please be a joke, please be a joke, please be a joke.
    Sadly there are plenty of people out there who actually think its okay to force their lifestyles on to there pets, even if its kills their pet.

    This. Sadly...probably not a joke, ive met people like this. They scare me.
  • Arianwyn_T
    Arianwyn_T Posts: 52
    If you don't believe in harming animals, then feed your cat what she evolved to eat, which is meat. If you can't bring yourself to do that, then find her a new home where she'll get proper care, and get an animal that fits with your lifestyle without torturing it, like a rabbit etc. (I've been completely vegetarian since I was 9).
  • SRH7
    SRH7 Posts: 2,037 Member
    Please be a joke, please be a joke, please be a joke.
    Sadly there are plenty of people out there who actually think its okay to force their lifestyles on to there pets, even if its kills their pet.

    This. Sadly...probably not a joke, ive met people like this. They scare me.

    This is why it's so important that the OP asked the question. Always a good idea to get advice before changing the diets and lifestyles of those around you :smile:

    I just hope the OP is wise enough to listen to the wonderful advice they are getting.
  • redraidergirl2009
    redraidergirl2009 Posts: 2,560 Member
    Please be a joke, please be a joke, please be a joke.
    Sadly there are plenty of people out there who actually think its okay to force their lifestyles on to there pets, even if its kills their pet.

    This. Sadly...probably not a joke, ive met people like this. They scare me.

    This is why it's so important that the OP asked the question. Always a good idea to get advice before changing the diets and lifestyles of those around you :smile:

    I just hope the OP is wise enough to listen to the wonderful advice they are getting.

    Doesn't look like she's listening to me...She's acting like she'd rather the cat die than feed it correctly
  • highervibes
    highervibes Posts: 2,219 Member
    The so called "cat food" has less meat in it than soy these days for all these people saying that cats are carnivores. This a bunch of phooey. The canned cat food that comes out of China is meat only in the most loose definition of the word! Cats have been domesticated and can eat food now.

    And that is almost just as cruel. Those cats suffer just as much. The same way you can live on cheetos and icecream, you won't THRIVE. It's irresponsible and cruel to knowingly feed a cat an inappropriate diet that will harm it's health. Cats SHOULD be eating a prey model raw diet complete with bones. Anything else, no matter how expensive, is SUB standard.
  • Arianwyn_T
    Arianwyn_T Posts: 52
    WOW!

    I really feel like I am being attacked here!

    First of all I'm not the one killing innocent creatures.

    Second, the diet that you said my cat would force me to eat. Is that paleo?

    Also, I'm a responsible pet owner. I'm not going to let Nadia run around the neighborhood to kill innocent creatures or even worse, get killed herself!

    Not killing the innocent? Clearly you've never heard the song "carrot juice is murder" by The Arrogant Worms. Go educate yourself.
  • Cr01502
    Cr01502 Posts: 3,614 Member
    Maybe if you go to someplace like whole foods you could find a better option for the kitty?

    I really don't think giving my cat to whole foods is going to benefit ANYBODY!

    Certainly not the cat.

    I know you were probably just joking but I think eating cats is absolutely disgusting.
  • Elainejk21
    Elainejk21 Posts: 121 Member
    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BE A JOKE. You might as well have adopted a dead cat if you're not joking..

    Excerpt from Pet People's Cat Nutrition, found here: http://www.petpeoplestores.com/brochures/CatNutrition4x9.pdf

    "Cats aren’t just built to eat meat, they need to
    eat meat. Cats are considered obligate
    carnivores, and must eat meat in order to survive.
    Obligate carnivores may eat other foods such as
    vegetables, grains, or
    fruits, but they must eat
    meat as their main source
    of nutrients. They cannot
    survive on a strict vegan
    diet. Cats require certain
    nutrients from meat that
    cannot be obtained in sufficient amounts from
    plant foods - a deficiency in these necessary
    nutrients can result in a variety of serious health
    problems. These essential nutrients are things
    the cat cannot produce themselves, and therefore
    must be consumed in the diet."
  • raisingemilyjune
    raisingemilyjune Posts: 181
    If you don't feed your cat meat, it will just go and find it elsewhere by catching mice and birds, etc.

    Not if it's a Munchkin cat, like the breed, they're the wiener dogs of the cat world lol and not known for their hunting prowess.
  • _SABOTEUR_
    _SABOTEUR_ Posts: 6,833 Member
    if you really insist on making your cat vegan it is possible:

    http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/vegan_cats
  • Trechechus
    Trechechus Posts: 2,819 Member
    I seriously hope you are trolling. Cats are obligate carnivores. If they are not fed meat, they will die of malnutrition. Feed your cat cat food or cook her some meat. Don't kill her because you are forcing your omnivourous ethics on her.
  • Trechechus
    Trechechus Posts: 2,819 Member
    If you don't feed your cat meat, it will just go and find it elsewhere by catching mice and birds, etc.

    Not if it's a Munchkin cat, like the breed, they're the wiener dogs of the cat world lol and not known for their hunting prowess.

    Dachshund literally translates into "Badger Dog." They were bred to hunt badgers...
  • Poprocket_2012
    Poprocket_2012 Posts: 142
    Poor cat :(
  • iAMsmiling
    iAMsmiling Posts: 2,394 Member
    The most amazing thing here is that all the sensible humans are warning the OP (troll) not to deny the cat what it must have to live and thrive. And, sure enough, there is a plan provided by PETA for the very best way to deny the cat what it must have.

    Says a bit about the "ethics" of PETA.
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    Wow. This is wrong on so many levels, SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!

    YOUR CAT IS NOT A HUMAN OR A DOG!!! (WHO CAN PROCESS BOTH PLANT AND MEAT BASED PROTEIN!)

    Cats are OBLIGATE carnivores. They lack the enzymes to process plant protein PERIOD. They are OBLIGATE carnivores.

    You disgust me. This is straight up animal abuse. How dare you subject another animal to a non-species specific diet.
  • MelsAuntie
    MelsAuntie Posts: 2,833 Member
    Impose your dietary beliefs on a carnivore that needs meat, by all means. The cat will die but you won't have harmed another animal, just her. What an idiotic post.
  • Cr01502
    Cr01502 Posts: 3,614 Member
    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BE A JOKE. You might as well have adopted a dead cat if you're not joking..

    Excerpt from Pet People's Cat Nutrition, found here: http://www.petpeoplestores.com/brochures/CatNutrition4x9.pdf

    "Cats aren’t just built to eat meat, they need to
    eat meat. Cats are considered obligate
    carnivores, and must eat meat in order to survive.
    Obligate carnivores may eat other foods such as
    vegetables, grains, or
    fruits, but they must eat
    meat as their main source
    of nutrients. They cannot
    survive on a strict vegan
    diet. Cats require certain
    nutrients from meat that
    cannot be obtained in sufficient amounts from
    plant foods - a deficiency in these necessary
    nutrients can result in a variety of serious health
    problems. These essential nutrients are things
    the cat cannot produce themselves, and therefore
    must be consumed in the diet."

    I've done my research thank you. Cats need Taurine and Vitamine A. Easily supplemented in the diet. I myself already take Taurine in the form of green tea and my cat plans on doing the same.

    Vitamin A comes from Cayenne pepper, sweet potatoes, carrots, squash , and lettuce.

    Nadia doesn't need meat.
  • Hbazzell
    Hbazzell Posts: 899 Member
    ats nead meat.It is unfortunate that is is produced through factory farms but they arent like humans. They need it.
  • Trechechus
    Trechechus Posts: 2,819 Member
    The most amazing thing here is that all the sensible humans are warning the OP (troll) not to deny the cat what it must have to live and thrive. And, sure enough, there is a plan provided by PETA for the very best way to deny the cat what it must have.

    Says a bit about the "ethics" of PETA.

    I can't stand PETA! http://www.petakillsanimals.com/
    You disgust me. This is straight up animal abuse. How dare you subject another animal to a non-species specific diet. /

    And this.
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BE A JOKE. You might as well have adopted a dead cat if you're not joking..

    Excerpt from Pet People's Cat Nutrition, found here: http://www.petpeoplestores.com/brochures/CatNutrition4x9.pdf

    "Cats aren’t just built to eat meat, they need to
    eat meat. Cats are considered obligate
    carnivores, and must eat meat in order to survive.
    Obligate carnivores may eat other foods such as
    vegetables, grains, or
    fruits, but they must eat
    meat as their main source
    of nutrients. They cannot
    survive on a strict vegan
    diet. Cats require certain
    nutrients from meat that
    cannot be obtained in sufficient amounts from
    plant foods - a deficiency in these necessary
    nutrients can result in a variety of serious health
    problems. These essential nutrients are things
    the cat cannot produce themselves, and therefore
    must be consumed in the diet."

    I've done my research thank you. Cats need Taurine and Vitamine A. Easily supplemented in the diet. I myself already take Taurine in the form of green tea and my cat plans on doing the same.

    Vitamin A comes from Cayenne pepper, sweet potatoes, carrots, squash , and lettuce.

    Nadia doesn't need meat.


    Someone needs to inform animal control because this is straight up animal abuse.

    As someone who fed their cat "dry food" which lacked ANY substancial amount of both protein and water i can tell you it's wrong. I had to watch my baby die of ketoacidosis in my arms because i was IGNORANT that they require a species specific diet and they are OBLIGATE carnivores.


    And just so you know (because clearly you don't seem to understand this fact) here is the definition of obligate-
    1. Biology Able to exist or survive only in a particular environment or by assuming a particular role: an obligate parasite; an obligate anaerobe.
    2. Absolutely indispensable; essential.
  • MelsAuntie
    MelsAuntie Posts: 2,833 Member
    Better yet, give the cat to somebody who will feed her PROPERLY FOR HER SPECIES and get your kids a pet that's an herbivore. Like a rabbit or a guinea pig.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    Does she even lift?

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  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    what would happen if when your kids are up hanging with their friends they decide hm i like meat and have a cheese burger? i eat veggie myself but my 2 year old and my husband eat meat .. my son can decide when hes older if he wants to eat like mummy he likes meat not my choice im his mum but hes going to grow up and be his own person same reason i refused to have him circumcised or baptised .. just because your cat cant speak doesnt mean he loves someone making desisions for him. i have two dogs who get dog rice and meat proper meat as i dont like the idea of dog food i hate touching it infact ive amost been sick cutting it up but my dogs a dog before i got them i knew they ate meat just like wolfs do its like getting a rabbit and forcing it to eat steak

    Well, no offence intended but I wonder if you take the same approach to your children when it comes to drugs and alcohol.

    Frankly, my children, my spouse, and my pets know that they can follow my rules or live somewhere else.


    You go on to say "it's not an option" to give her up. and then you say if they don't like it they can leave.

    You act as if you care about animals or even YOUR animal yet you would subject her to such abuse?

    "cats eat stuff in the wild like plant matter". Are you trolling? Surely you cannot be this ignorant.
  • KittenTikka
    KittenTikka Posts: 93

    3. Vitamin A found in vegetables (carotenoid) cannot be converted by cats in to the active form of vitamin A (retinol). As cats do not have the necessary enzyme to do the conversion they have to hunt other animals that have done it for them (mice, rabbits). There are sufficient quantities of retinol in meat and very small amounts in eggs and milk . Liver is the richest source of preformed Vitamin A . Vitamin A deficiency in cats can cause night blindness, retarded growth, and poor-quality skin and fur.

    Too much Vitamin A is just as dangerous for cats as too little. They become addicted to the taste of liver (and it's past midday here in the UK so this is not an April Fool wind-up) and then suffer from hypervitaminosis A which causes irreversible calcification of the cervical spine, meaning that the cat won't be able to move its neck at all.....
  • Allihexen
    Allihexen Posts: 111 Member
    Posting my two cents since I used to work in animal feed store and mostly because I want to see just how outrageous and ludicrous this will get. Also, I pray to whatever being up there this is all a joke...

    1.) Cats are not carnivores nor can they be 'vegan'. They are very similar to us. They need protein, be it from chicken, beef, fish, what have you. If you look at their teeth, they're obviously more meat eater than not. They also need vegetables along with the protein.

    2.) By making homemade meals, that cat won't live long. Just saying. Vegans eat a lot of soy. Cats are allergic to soy. Keep that in mind or one day, Miss Kitty is going to swell like a blimp and keel over.

    3.) There's a very good pet food called Diamond that is humane and does not use any of the four D's. Most of the food is 25% or more protein with about 11% fat. It's a very balanced diet of what your cat needs.

    4.) Please don't EVER feed your cat soy, rice, or wheat. Rice will burst in her intestines.

    5.) PETA kills hundreds of adoptable animals annually. How can you honestly think they have the best interest of your cat in mind? They'd probably put her down just for eating something they consider wrong. The CEO feeds her animals raw meat. Just FYI.

    I hope you learn before your cat ends up dying a painfully slow death.

    And just in case anyone is curious, cats' digestive tracts are similar to that of a ferret's. A lot of vegetable matter can get stuck and cause problems.
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