Concealed Carry: good or bad idea

Brb never going to America, wouldn't be able to trust anyone.

Its not the ones legally carrying that you can't trust....its all of those that carry illegally, or who "legally" cannot carry, but do anyway.

You also have to worry about the ones who can legally carry, but aren't competent with a gun. Requirements differ by state and just because you got the permit doesn't mean you know what you're doing or will exercise good judgment.

I am more worried about idiots that carry guns, legally or illegally. I know more idiots that legally have them personally.

You should associate yourself with a better group of people then.

Brb never going to America, wouldn't be able to trust anyone.

Its not the ones legally carrying that you can't trust....its all of those that carry illegally, or who "legally" cannot carry, but do anyway.

You also have to worry about the ones who can legally carry, but aren't competent with a gun. Requirements differ by state and just because you got the permit doesn't mean you know what you're doing or will exercise good judgment.

I am more worried about idiots that carry guns, legally or illegally. I know more idiots that legally have them personally.

You should associate yourself with a better group of people then.

I didn't say I associate with them lol

I live in an extremely liberal state and consider myself a liberal. That being said, I am also a proud gun owner with a concealed weapons permit. I was raised that guns are tools not toys and if you own a weapon you need to be prepared to use it, but never to play around with it. It's all about being responsible. Criminals will always find a way to get weapons. I just would rather be prepared and armed and ready to protect myself and my family if it should ever come to that. I have never had to fire my weapon (other than at the gun range) but if I was put in a situation where my life or the lives of people I love were at stake, you better believe I wouldn't even think twice.

I feel safer knowing only police and criminals carry firearms, I'm Canadian bTW.

I hope this is a joke.

I personally would rather live in a country that has some recourse if my government is tyrannical, or becomes that way.

Thank you!

The only thing to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. I'm armed, educated and proud.

I just don't understand this mentality. :noway:
Unarmed, educated and proud.

How do you suggest stopping a criminal/murderer that has a gun? Give him a mean talking to?

good idea

I live in Florida. I've never known a world without concealed carry.
We're also home to the nation's most idiotic or horrific crimes and the Stand Your Ground law where I could literally shoot you from my car's front seat if you began to approach me, and I stand a good chance at getting away with it.

So - I'm not 100% sure how I feel about it.

I would look a little more into that. Don't think you can just shoot people for casually approaching you.

Concealed carry is a great idea. I personally think anyone with the permit should be able to carry in "no gun" zones as well. To me ,those are a terrible idea to begin with...what an invitation for someone to go in and shoot a bunch of people with little resistance

btw I have many many democrats that I have brought over to my side. We have plenty of cookies and milk and go to the gun ranges frequently.

no in all seriousness. I have had many co-workers that were so biased and misinformed and ignorant. I finally challenged them and brought them to a gun range. 98% of everyone I have ever brought to a gun range ends up buying a gun.

the problem is you cant argue with someone's imagination. This is where many of the anti's are.... in imagination world. I have a spreadsheet I created from FBI statics about gun violence, population, etc. While the news outlets would make you believe violent crimes and gun violence is on the rise, it has drastically declined while our population has steadily increased. I have taken it a step further and compared violent crime rates from the UK since the ban, and compared those rates to the US violent crime rates. SHOCKING to say the least. Oh and I got the UK crime statics from home office (UK's FBI)

I am 100% liberal but actually enjoy going to the gun range. I wont purchase one while my children are in my home still, and I agree crime rates are declining but do you think it is a result of more people owning weapons?

The only thing to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. I'm armed, educated and proud.

I just don't understand this mentality. :noway:
Unarmed, educated and proud.

How do you suggest stopping a criminal/murderer that has a gun? Give him a mean talking to?

I would say spanking but honestly, we can't even do that anymore.

The only thing to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. I'm armed, educated and proud.

I just don't understand this mentality. :noway:
Unarmed, educated and proud.

How do you suggest stopping a criminal/murderer that has a gun? Give him a mean talking to?

I've known two people in my life that have been carjacked...one is dead, the other is not. Guess which one had a firearm?
Here's a hint: I talked to him yesterday!

as a brit, i like our gun laws exactly how they are.

one man was killed, no bystanders were injured, the cops caught the perps.
i'm not sure how a firefight with citizens in the middle of the street could have improved the outcome.

This, basically.

One man died. It was a tragedy. If the EDL lot who turned up shortly after had been equipped with firearms we would be mourning the loss of a lot more than one innocent life. I'm aware that guns don't kill people, but they certainly make it a lot easier.

i'm sure a lot of pro-gun americans will be offended by this and take it as a slight on their culture, but i don't feel like my culture needs to become more like theirs. i would prefer if it didn't.

if i started telling them that they should change their culture to one more like mine, THEN they would be justified in feeling offended.

i feel safe. nobody i know has ever been threatened with a gun in the uk.

Brb never going to America, wouldn't be able to trust anyone.

Its not the ones legally carrying that you can't trust....its all of those that carry illegally, or who "legally" cannot carry, but do anyway.

Really? Because I'm not too concerned with thugs that shoot each other (I know innocent victims to get hit sometimes but it is rare) But I have heard of PLENTY of mass murders where legal registered weapons were used, or even accidental shootings where the "responsible" gun own left their loaded weapon within arms reach of a 4 year old.....

ETA most home invasions the occupants never have the chance to get their gun out of the locked gun case, then loaded, and ready to be shot. Most trained individuals cannot easily hit a moving target, so even if someone had been armed during the mass shootings the outcome would not have been much different, not to mention once the police show up and realize you have multiple people with weapons drawn...well...you are just asking for trouble at that point.

Statistics have proven my children are much safer in my home without a gun than they are with one.

Thugs never rob innocent victims? Give an example of where a legally registered weapon was used for a mass murder by the person that had it registered please. Also, "responsible gun owners" don't leave their guns where kids can get to them, so we can throw that one right out the window.

What kind of idiot stores an unloaded gun for protection? No one I know. I can have my gun in my hand and ready to shoot in 3 seconds from where I sleep. I am glad you can speculate how someone being armed at a mass shooting would have ended, you should start a psychic hotline. So you are telling me that the mass murderer has no problems hitting his moving targets but a trained citizen that was armed wouldn't have been able to hit a moving target? By the time the police get there the shooting will likely be over so if you are the one who is legal it's easy to just put your gun down and explain the situation.

I would love to see that statistic also. 1 post shows you are completely uneducated about firearms.

Since 1986, several states have enacted some form of Concealed Carry legislation.
I have not researched studies citing whether this legislation has had a significant impact on violent crime in the US.
I have briefly perused a few studies regarding the effect of gun control on "justified" murders in Britain.
In light of the recent murder in Britain and the lament of lack of a legally armed citizen to shoot this barbarian, what do you think?

as a brit, i like our gun laws exactly how they are.

one man was killed, no bystanders were injured, the cops caught the perps.
i'm not sure how a firefight with citizens in the middle of the street could have improved the outcome.

Well, maybe you would have:
One injured, scared, but ALIVE Soldier
multiple dead or injured assailants
shaken up bystanders.

By the way, why were so many people just standing around watching?