The Cornerstone of Upper Body Strength: The Pullup

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  • Cr01502
    Cr01502 Posts: 3,614 Member
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  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
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  • BellaFe
    BellaFe Posts: 323
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    I tried yesterday and failed miserably :( I will keep trying until I can do it.
  • Mummyadams
    Mummyadams Posts: 1,125 Member
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    Finlly managed to do 4 yesterday! It's taken me months on the assisted pull up machine, slowly lowering the counter weight. If I can - you can too!
  • MinimalistShoeAddict
    MinimalistShoeAddict Posts: 1,946 Member
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    Here is a nice video I found showing how to use a dip belt to do weighted pull ups (#7 on your list):
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/weighted-pull-ups
    Greetings fellow MFP'ers. It's your "friendly" neighborhood Joe here to speak with you today about the SCALE of upper body strength known as THE PULLUP.

    If someone were to come up to me and try to "size me up" asking me if I "worked out" or was "into bodybuilding", and he or she asked me "What do you bench?" I would chuckle a bit and then give them two answers:

    First answer: My 1RM is 285. This is partly due to a tender left shoulder rotator cuff.

    Second answer: A good measure or scale of upper body strength is NOT the Bench Press, it is the Pullup.

    Ask any serious bodybuilder or strength trainer. Unless you are competing in powerlifting or you are in the NFL Combine, strength is measured by how many pullups you can do. This is mostly the reason why boot camp in the military they test you on pullups.

    Example: If we are at war or there is a zombie apocalypse, do you think being able to Bench Press 500lbs is going to help you in ANY WAY to survive? No, it's not. But, if you can do pullups and pull your own bodyweight up with EASE, your ability to survive goes up dramatically.

    Before I talk about ways to strengthen your pullups, let me first state this and I'll put it in bold so it sinks:

    DO NOT use the assisted pullup machine to try to build strength. I will repeat this. DO NOT use the assisted pullup machien to try to build strength.

    The pullup assist machine is VERY different from doing REAL pullups or chinups. The form is different. The position and ease for your legs is different. It is not the same in any way, shape or form. I will give you some tips below on how to strengthen your pullups/chinups. It may be hard at first, but it will get easier.

    1. Start with multiple sets of low reps.

    Do 10 sets of 1 pullup with 30 seconds rest in between sets. Time yourself. Only take 30 seconds max. When you can do 1 pullup with ease, then move onto to 10 sets of 2 pullups. Go until you can perform 10 sets of 5 pullups with 30 seconds rest. Once you achieve this, then you'll be able to do 10 pullups pretty easily for your first set. Trust me this works.

    2. Use resistance bands.

    Loop a resistance band around the pullup bar, and then around your knee for assistance. This is NOT the same as using the "pullup assist machine".

    3. Strengthen your grip.

    Either use grip strengtheners, do Deadlifts, Plate pinches, or do Heavy Bar Pulls and hold for 10-20 seconds. You'd be surprised at how this will help your pullups.

    4. Do chinups.

    Chinups are a lot easier to do over Pullups as they use the biceps. Pullups have a lot more back involvement though.

    5. Use hip drive.

    I don't care what anyone says. There is absolutely nothing wrong with using momentum when starting out to build pullup strength. Granted you need to eventually do pullups without hip drive, but it will help with strength.

    6. Perform negative movements.

    Start in the up position, and go down slow. This will help not only form, but strength as well.

    7. Do weighted 10-2's.

    Grab a weighted vest or a chained weight-belt and add plates to it. Do 10 sets of 2 reps with 30 seconds rest.

    8. Don't go to failure.

    One of the biggest mistakes people do with pullups and/or chinups is they go to failure. This does not help you. Your form suffers, you can risk shoulder injuries. It's just not a good idea. Do as many pullups as you can with GOOD form.

    9. Make sure you start in proper position.

    You need to start with your arms straight, pull your shoulder blades down and lock your shoulders into their sockets. Do NOT start with your shoulders up near your ears like you're doing a shoulder shrug. This is NOT proper form at all.

    10. Initiate with your lats.

    When you start to pull, keep shoulders back, head up and fire your lats FIRST, not your biceps/arms. If you are doing this correctly, you'll know it.

    11. Drive your elbows down.

    Make sure you drive your elbows down and back. Don't pull with your biceps.

    12. Pull your chin over the bar.

    Sure when you're starting to build strength, you may not be able to which is fine, but eventually you need to. Nothing else needs to be said.

    13. Use different grips.

    Palms facing away, Palms facing you, Palms facing each other. Also use different widths of your grip.

    14. Keep elbows slightly bent throughout your set.

    Don't lock your elbows in the middle of a set. Keep them bent at all times.


    That's it. Building pullup strength takes time just like anything else. You'll get it with patience and practice.

    Until the next time my friends.

    This is your "friendly" neighborhood Joe....signing off.
  • samsamnojam
    samsamnojam Posts: 34 Member
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    Fantastic information.

    You've just confirmed my desire to do pullups and chinups. I'm an overweight female, just getting into strength training. At the moment I can't do any of this.

    Should I wait until I've built more back/upper body strength to get started, or start with a really basic movement? I still feel a bit intimidated in the gym by the guys doing all the pullups and stuff, but ultimately I want to be doing it myself and lifting free weights too.
  • Bubble105
    Bubble105 Posts: 68 Member
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    Due to this post, I've just ordered a pullup bar and some resistance bands. Thanks! (Now I've just got to manage to use the damn thing... I'll get there!)
  • samsamnojam
    samsamnojam Posts: 34 Member
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    Ha! I had a go at doing some dips at the gym today. I can't even do one dip, let alone a pullup! But it made me smile, and it's given me a goal to focus on. Thanks!
  • Lyadeia
    Lyadeia Posts: 4,603 Member
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    This gives some great ideas how to increase your strength. I would only add that I was able to do my first unassisted pull-up years ago after concentrating on building strength with the...ahem...assisted pull-up machine. It might not be the best way to do it, but I don't think you should tell people to completely stay away from it either. I just used less and less assistance each week until I was finally able to do them unassisted.
  • belgerian
    belgerian Posts: 1,059 Member
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    You can also use a chair back for assitance use one foot on the back of a folding chair to push yourself up if you need the assitance..
  • charmarbobar
    charmarbobar Posts: 251 Member
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    Bump for further reference...pull/chin ups are a goal for me!
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  • HMVOL7409
    HMVOL7409 Posts: 1,588 Member
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    From someone who loves doing pull-ups and chin-ups, this thread is very informative for those seeking to accomplish this.
  • TamiSH2
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  • hedgiie
    hedgiie Posts: 1,245 Member
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    nice tips, thanks
  • bigcle82
    bigcle82 Posts: 134 Member
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    If you're an individual who still has alot of weight and still cannot do one pull-up. What's the best way to start if the post says do not use assisted machines.
  • Skinnymunkii
    Skinnymunkii Posts: 191 Member
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    Thank you for this thread! Looking forward to being able to do my first!
  • ms_leanne
    ms_leanne Posts: 523
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    If you're an individual who still has alot of weight and still cannot do one pull-up. What's the best way to start if the post says do not use assisted machines.

    ^^^^THIS?
  • FunnyBunnyHunny
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