I'm tired, cranky now I read Kate Upton is fat?!

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  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
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    She's not fat, but I do find her weight average and that's not good enough for a model.

    We need more average models. These really thin, airbrushed ones we have are the reason why so many girls have eating disorders.

    What do we need average models for? We have average people everywhere. Models are supposed to represent a FANTASY. We can't handle the fact that we aren't perfect so we have to make art that's mediocre? C'mon.
    You'e lovely. :flowerforyou:
  • ckasap
    ckasap Posts: 60 Member
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    Yeeeeah. Sign me up to be fat! She is freakin' GORGEOUS.
  • DawnieB1977
    DawnieB1977 Posts: 4,248 Member
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    She's not fat, but I do find her weight average and that's not good enough for a model.

    Seriously? Surely being a model is about looking good. Some catwalk models I've seen pics of are quite ugly and /or plain looking, they just happen to be tall and skinny.
  • camy_chick
    camy_chick Posts: 277 Member
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    yeah, it's complete BS! i read awhile ago, or watched her on a show...i think it was the latter of the 2...and she was saying how she is considered "plus sized" in the modeling world......i REALLY wish that the industry would get with REAL life! plus sized is not a size 6! i don't even think it's a size 12-16..........IT'S CALLED HEALTHY! i would KILL to have a body like hers! it is BEAUTIFUL! it's NOT FAT!
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
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    That bikini is not flattering to her body type, but it's nothing to do with size. She doesn't exactly have a muffin top!
  • Juliebean_1027
    Juliebean_1027 Posts: 713 Member
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    Seriously? If I was "fat" like her I wouldn't need to be on MFP. She's my goal weight.
  • louise62602
    louise62602 Posts: 20
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    She is far from being fat! If thats fat then I wanna be fat!!!
  • Boogage
    Boogage Posts: 739 Member
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    You can't always tell what clothes will look like on when they're on the hanger so I'd rather see a real woman wearing them
  • IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym
    IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym Posts: 5,573 Member
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    She's not fat, but I do find her weight average and that's not good enough for a model.

    We need more average models. These really thin, airbrushed ones we have are the reason why so many girls have eating disorders.

    What do we need average models for? We have average people everywhere. Models are supposed to represent a FANTASY. We can't handle the fact that we aren't perfect so we have to make art that's mediocre? C'mon.

    Well models should also represent health while they're at it. Nothing wrong with fantasy models, just not enough average ones out there. Everywhere you turn you see size 0 models. No wonder girls who are Kate's size think they're fat..

    I think its up to us, as parents to teach our daughters what healthy looks like. Not the fashion industry. My daughter is aware that a size 0 doesn't always mean unhealthy. Neither does a size 12. I prefer to be my daughters role model.
  • RobynLB83
    RobynLB83 Posts: 626 Member
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    She's not fat, but I do find her weight average and that's not good enough for a model.

    We need more average models. These really thin, airbrushed ones we have are the reason why so many girls have eating disorders.

    What do we need average models for? We have average people everywhere. Models are supposed to represent a FANTASY. We can't handle the fact that we aren't perfect so we have to make art that's mediocre? C'mon.

    Well models should also represent health while they're at it. Nothing wrong with fantasy models, just not enough average ones out there. Everywhere you turn you see size 0 models. No wonder girls who are Kate's size think they're fat..

    Models are not making a public service announcement. They are selling ****.
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
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    She's not fat, but I do find her weight average and that's not good enough for a model.

    We need more average models. These really thin, airbrushed ones we have are the reason why so many girls have eating disorders.

    What do we need average models for? We have average people everywhere. Models are supposed to represent a FANTASY. We can't handle the fact that we aren't perfect so we have to make art that's mediocre? C'mon.

    Well models should also represent health while they're at it. Nothing wrong with fantasy models, just not enough average ones out there. Everywhere you turn you see size 0 models. No wonder girls who are Kate's size think they're fat..

    I totally agree. We need more average models like we need more average intelligence doctors and physicists. All those smarty pants types giving people of average intelligence low self esteem. It's just not fair.
  • mandasalem
    mandasalem Posts: 346 Member
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    Models are not art. Photography and fashion design are art. Models bodies are props that are used in a careful composition. Deal with it.

    Exactly. As such, what you're saying about mediocre art makes absolutely no sense.

    Art in photography has less to do with the subject than it does to do with the composition, the lighting, the concept, the color. Capturing a moment. You can photograph anyone or anything and make tremendous art. A model who isn't below healthy weight by most doctors' standards doesn't make mediocre art-- a failing photographer does.

    And clothing designers have plenty of choices in models to wear their clothes. Certainly their art isn't suffering because this woman isn't starving herself. Runway models and cover models are entirely different things.

    To pretend that somehow, this woman's size is having a detrimental effect on art is at best laughable and at worst creating some really dangerous ideas about weight/health/beauty/etc.
  • _Emma_Problema_
    _Emma_Problema_ Posts: 261 Member
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    Models are not art. Photography and fashion design are art. Models bodies are props that are used in a careful composition. Deal with it.

    I've seen plenty of photographs and fashion designs that use women who don't fit your "fantasy" ideal of what a woman should look like. If an artist wants to use a stick thin girl, fine. It's their artistic choice. The problem is that it's an industry and the decision to include women who are much thinner than a healthy body weight and are airbrushed like hell is not because of artistic preference.

    We are sold the impossible as an ideal for a reason. It makes one hell of a profit. That's really all there is to it. The more unhappy we are with our bodies, the more money the dieting and media industry makes.

    Also, who cares if some people called Kate Upton "fat". One person's fat is another person's thin. It's all a matter of perspective. And discussing it doesn't help. It just gives people another reason to pick apart and critique the body of a...what...19? year old girl.
  • sc10985
    sc10985 Posts: 347 Member
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    In the unrealistic world of Kate Moss-esque models, ie: bony, unhealthy, and possibly drug addicted, yes she's considered "fat". But in all reality she probably weighs 125lbs and just enjoys life. I bet she's a lot more fun to be around than other models too!!
  • fjrandol
    fjrandol Posts: 437 Member
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    5'10"
    130lbs
    34-29-36

    yup, what a total average-sized fatass.

    good lord people, have you no shame??!?! :angry:
  • RobynLB83
    RobynLB83 Posts: 626 Member
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    She's not fat, but I do find her weight average and that's not good enough for a model.

    We need more average models. These really thin, airbrushed ones we have are the reason why so many girls have eating disorders.

    What do we need average models for? We have average people everywhere. Models are supposed to represent a FANTASY. We can't handle the fact that we aren't perfect so we have to make art that's mediocre? C'mon.

    Well models should also represent health while they're at it. Nothing wrong with fantasy models, just not enough average ones out there. Everywhere you turn you see size 0 models. No wonder girls who are Kate's size think they're fat..

    I think its up to us, as parents to teach our daughters what healthy looks like. Not the fashion industry. My daughter is aware that a size 0 doesn't always mean unhealthy. Neither does a size 12. I prefer to be my daughters role model.

    This.
  • run2bfree
    run2bfree Posts: 108 Member
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    maybe they meant PHAT ....

    Fat compared to a pole.
  • casy84
    casy84 Posts: 290 Member
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    She's not fat, but I do find her weight average and that's not good enough for a model.

    We need more average models. These really thin, airbrushed ones we have are the reason why so many girls have eating disorders.

    What do we need average models for? We have average people everywhere. Models are supposed to represent a FANTASY. We can't handle the fact that we aren't perfect so we have to make art that's mediocre? C'mon.

    Modeling is art now?

    News flash-- most models aren't meant to be healthy or attractive, they're meant to be clothes hangers in pretty much every sense.

    Average is good for every day life, but you can't force designers to put their art on people that won't flatter it and show it off on the catwalk.
  • _Emma_Problema_
    _Emma_Problema_ Posts: 261 Member
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    Well models should also represent health while they're at it. Nothing wrong with fantasy models, just not enough average ones out there. Everywhere you turn you see size 0 models. No wonder girls who are Kate's size think they're fat..

    Models are not making a public service announcement. They are selling ****.

    You seem to have a rather shocking lack of understanding of how the media influences individuals. Wow. Just oh wow!
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
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    She's not fat, but I do find her weight average and that's not good enough for a model.

    We need more average models. These really thin, airbrushed ones we have are the reason why so many girls have eating disorders.

    What do we need average models for? We have average people everywhere. Models are supposed to represent a FANTASY. We can't handle the fact that we aren't perfect so we have to make art that's mediocre? C'mon.

    Porn is about fantasy.

    Models are part of the advertising industry. There's an artistic component, but it should be based in reality, not fantasy.

    Fashion models are, or rather should be, about how a certain product will look on the customer. I don't want a mascara ad that shows me fantasy lashes. I want to see that actual product on an actual woman. I don't want to see clothes on someone who's 5 inches taller and 20 pounds lighter than the average woman, I want to see it on someone like me.

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