I'm tired, cranky now I read Kate Upton is fat?!
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Hell no she isn't fat, sometimes people say stuff like that just to get an outraged reaction. She does look a little untoned around her mid-section however, which would be an incredibly snarky thing to say about someone who didn't have her profession. It is literally her job to be toned.0
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She's not fat, but I do find her weight average and that's not good enough for a model.
We need more average models. These really thin, airbrushed ones we have are the reason why so many girls have eating disorders.
What do we need average models for? We have average people everywhere. Models are supposed to represent a FANTASY. We can't handle the fact that we aren't perfect so we have to make art that's mediocre? C'mon.
Modeling is art now?
News flash-- most models aren't meant to be healthy or attractive, they're meant to be clothes hangers in pretty much every sense.
Models are not art. Photography and fashion design are art. Models bodies are props that are used in a careful composition. Deal with it. If I'm trying to create a specific image, I'm not going to sacrifice that image by using a model that doesn't fit just because I don't want to hurt someone's feelings. Peoples' feelings are irrelevant in aesthetics. If Kate Upton is useful as a model it's because some fraction of the population is comforted by seeing the image of a fatter woman. That's fine. It's also pandering.
You sound like a talking eating disorder.0 -
This is glorious. I haven't been on the forums in 6+ months and it's nice to see nothing has changed.
For the record, I would bang Kate Upton.
:drinker:
Me too pudge and all!0 -
the industry want models to be 0 thats gross come on now
Seriously?
How is your comment any better than those calling Kate Upton fat?
INORITE! Body shaming is body shaming and the real disgusting thing in this thread.
QFT0 -
Who?
This was my thought, too.0 -
Can't believe nobody have posted this yet
um.
a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet.
amirite?0 -
When I saw her on the cover of sports illustrated, I was like, "Wow; they put a plus size model on the cover. That's progressive." She's not "fat" for a person walking on the street, but she certainly has at least 2 times the body fat of a standard model. Why does she get paid for that? I think models should have to work for it... Their job is to look good... That's all they have to do. And she doesn't bother to work out? That's just lazy.
This is a joke, right?
Oh I certainly hope so how in the world does she look anything like a plus size model really........... really :noway:
Your idea of plus size model and what the people in the fashion world consider a plus size model are most likely different.
Robyn Lawley is considered the current face of plus size modeling. I tend to drool when I see her.
Mind.Blown.
That's not at all what I think of a "plus sized".. the is 6'2 and 180 lbs with a 32" waist. Her BMI is 23.1 which is considered "normal".... so why is this plus sized?0 -
In modeling, plus-sized is size 8 and above. Possibly even size 6.When I saw her on the cover of sports illustrated, I was like, "Wow; they put a plus size model on the cover. That's progressive." She's not "fat" for a person walking on the street, but she certainly has at least 2 times the body fat of a standard model. Why does she get paid for that? I think models should have to work for it... Their job is to look good... That's all they have to do. And she doesn't bother to work out? That's just lazy.
This is a joke, right?
Oh I certainly hope so how in the world does she look anything like a plus size model really........... really :noway:
Your idea of plus size model and what the people in the fashion world consider a plus size model are most likely different.
Robyn Lawley is considered the current face of plus size modeling. I tend to drool when I see her.
Mind.Blown.
That's not at all what I think of a "plus sized".. the is 6'2 and 180 lbs with a 32" waist. Her BMI is 23.1 which is considered "normal".... so why is this plus sized?0 -
When I saw her on the cover of sports illustrated, I was like, "Wow; they put a plus size model on the cover. That's progressive." She's not "fat" for a person walking on the street, but she certainly has at least 2 times the body fat of a standard model. Why does she get paid for that? I think models should have to work for it... Their job is to look good... That's all they have to do. And she doesn't bother to work out? That's just lazy.
This is a joke, right?
Oh I certainly hope so how in the world does she look anything like a plus size model really........... really :noway:
Your idea of plus size model and what the people in the fashion world consider a plus size model are most likely different.
Robyn Lawley is considered the current face of plus size modeling. I tend to drool when I see her.
Mind.Blown.
That's not at all what I think of a "plus sized".. the is 6'2 and 180 lbs with a 32" waist. Her BMI is 23.1 which is considered "normal".... so why is this plus sized?
Look at it from the fashion POV (which basically defines the "models"). I mean every girl that walks in the agencies or the fashion shows etc is compared with Kate Moss, Elle Mcpherson etc. So naturally, compared to those girls, these girls (albeit healthy and fit) are... plus size.
Also, most of the fashion designers design their clothes for the uppidy, pill popping, drug snorting, food purging, 600 calories eating crowd (sorry if I offended anyone by that description) so for those designers who aren't used to designing clothes for "normal" girls these are plus size.
From Kate Moss to Kate Upton. I like the trend of allowing more variety and healthy. Not saying the girls who are NATURALLY the size 0 like Kate Moss aren't healthy but when you develop and ED ("nothing tastes as good as skinny feels" was Moss's motto I believe?) then thats not natural.0 -
She's not fat, but I do find her weight average and that's not good enough for a model.
We need more average models. These really thin, airbrushed ones we have are the reason why so many girls have eating disorders.
What do we need average models for? We have average people everywhere. Models are supposed to represent a FANTASY. We can't handle the fact that we aren't perfect so we have to make art that's mediocre? C'mon.
Modeling is art now?
News flash-- most models aren't meant to be healthy or attractive, they're meant to be clothes hangers in pretty much every sense.
Models are not art. Photography and fashion design are art. Models bodies are props that are used in a careful composition. Deal with it. If I'm trying to create a specific image, I'm not going to sacrifice that image by using a model that doesn't fit just because I don't want to hurt someone's feelings. Peoples' feelings are irrelevant in aesthetics. If Kate Upton is useful as a model it's because some fraction of the population is comforted by seeing the image of a fatter woman. That's fine. It's also pandering.
You sound like a talking eating disorder.
Amen Sister!0 -
Can't believe nobody have posted this yet
um.
a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet.
amirite?
More than rite!0 -
Lets everyone rally around popular safe opinions and just tear apart those who don't agree or have the balls to take unpopular opinions. Then lets all pat ourselves and eachother on the back for all being so "good."
that pretty much sums up MFP to a T.0 -
Lets everyone rally around popular safe opinions and just tear apart those who don't agree or have the balls to take unpopular opinions. Then lets all pat ourselves and eachother on the back for all being so "good."
that pretty much sums up MFP to a T.
please. By all means. Start a "every one is mean here" thread where you can call people "bullies" and insist that people should be supported in all things. That'll just bring this full circle.
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Withdrawn.0
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Lets everyone rally around popular safe opinions and just tear apart those who don't agree or have the balls to take unpopular opinions. Then lets all pat ourselves and eachother on the back for all being so "good."
that pretty much sums up MFP to a T.
please. By all means. Start a "every one is mean here" thread where you can call people "bullies" and insist that people should be supported in all things. That'll just bring this full circle.
you've got the momentum..you do it.0 -
calling Kate Upton fat is like when you call a 5th string wide receiver slow. they are slow compared to their peers. against the average public? not so much.0
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the industry want models to be 0 thats gross come on now
oh for SHAME a model be a size 0. Good grief.... I think all sizes are beautiful from a healthy 0 to Kate Upton and all in between and up. What's gross is body shaming size 0.0 -
Victoria Secret/Supermodel/Bikini Model standards I can see how she could be, but honestly from my perspective her figure is covetable.
She would only be a UK size 10-12 (I use that because Australian's sizes uses pretty much the same methodology)
In saying that her covers make her look more petite...As they say 'Air brushing works a gem'0 -
p.s any size can be perceived as beautiful.
You can still have a healthy size 0; depends on the body composition.
Some girls are just petite and can not help it?
You can generally differentiate an anorexic/bulimic person from a naturally skinny person.0 -
When I saw her on the cover of sports illustrated, I was like, "Wow; they put a plus size model on the cover. That's progressive." She's not "fat" for a person walking on the street, but she certainly has at least 2 times the body fat of a standard model. Why does she get paid for that? I think models should have to work for it... Their job is to look good... That's all they have to do. And she doesn't bother to work out? That's just lazy.
This is a joke, right?
Oh I certainly hope so how in the world does she look anything like a plus size model really........... really :noway:
Your idea of plus size model and what the people in the fashion world consider a plus size model are most likely different.
Robyn Lawley is considered the current face of plus size modeling. I tend to drool when I see her.
Mind.Blown.
That's not at all what I think of a "plus sized".. the is 6'2 and 180 lbs with a 32" waist. Her BMI is 23.1 which is considered "normal".... so why is this plus sized?
Look at it from the fashion POV (which basically defines the "models"). I mean every girl that walks in the agencies or the fashion shows etc is compared with Kate Moss, Elle Mcpherson etc. So naturally, compared to those girls, these girls (albeit healthy and fit) are... plus size.
Also, most of the fashion designers design their clothes for the uppidy, pill popping, drug snorting, food purging, 600 calories eating crowd (sorry if I offended anyone by that description) so for those designers who aren't used to designing clothes for "normal" girls these are plus size.
From Kate Moss to Kate Upton. I like the trend of allowing more variety and healthy. Not saying the girls who are NATURALLY the size 0 like Kate Moss aren't healthy but when you develop and ED ("nothing tastes as good as skinny feels" was Moss's motto I believe?) then thats not natural.
agreed couldn't have said it better myself.0
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