I'm tired, cranky now I read Kate Upton is fat?!
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Can't believe nobody have posted this yet
um.
a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet.
amirite?
More than rite!0 -
Lets everyone rally around popular safe opinions and just tear apart those who don't agree or have the balls to take unpopular opinions. Then lets all pat ourselves and eachother on the back for all being so "good."
that pretty much sums up MFP to a T.0 -
Lets everyone rally around popular safe opinions and just tear apart those who don't agree or have the balls to take unpopular opinions. Then lets all pat ourselves and eachother on the back for all being so "good."
that pretty much sums up MFP to a T.
please. By all means. Start a "every one is mean here" thread where you can call people "bullies" and insist that people should be supported in all things. That'll just bring this full circle.
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Withdrawn.0
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Lets everyone rally around popular safe opinions and just tear apart those who don't agree or have the balls to take unpopular opinions. Then lets all pat ourselves and eachother on the back for all being so "good."
that pretty much sums up MFP to a T.
please. By all means. Start a "every one is mean here" thread where you can call people "bullies" and insist that people should be supported in all things. That'll just bring this full circle.
you've got the momentum..you do it.0 -
calling Kate Upton fat is like when you call a 5th string wide receiver slow. they are slow compared to their peers. against the average public? not so much.0
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the industry want models to be 0 thats gross come on now
oh for SHAME a model be a size 0. Good grief.... I think all sizes are beautiful from a healthy 0 to Kate Upton and all in between and up. What's gross is body shaming size 0.0 -
Victoria Secret/Supermodel/Bikini Model standards I can see how she could be, but honestly from my perspective her figure is covetable.
She would only be a UK size 10-12 (I use that because Australian's sizes uses pretty much the same methodology)
In saying that her covers make her look more petite...As they say 'Air brushing works a gem'0 -
p.s any size can be perceived as beautiful.
You can still have a healthy size 0; depends on the body composition.
Some girls are just petite and can not help it?
You can generally differentiate an anorexic/bulimic person from a naturally skinny person.0 -
When I saw her on the cover of sports illustrated, I was like, "Wow; they put a plus size model on the cover. That's progressive." She's not "fat" for a person walking on the street, but she certainly has at least 2 times the body fat of a standard model. Why does she get paid for that? I think models should have to work for it... Their job is to look good... That's all they have to do. And she doesn't bother to work out? That's just lazy.
This is a joke, right?
Oh I certainly hope so how in the world does she look anything like a plus size model really........... really :noway:
Your idea of plus size model and what the people in the fashion world consider a plus size model are most likely different.
Robyn Lawley is considered the current face of plus size modeling. I tend to drool when I see her.
Mind.Blown.
That's not at all what I think of a "plus sized".. the is 6'2 and 180 lbs with a 32" waist. Her BMI is 23.1 which is considered "normal".... so why is this plus sized?
Look at it from the fashion POV (which basically defines the "models"). I mean every girl that walks in the agencies or the fashion shows etc is compared with Kate Moss, Elle Mcpherson etc. So naturally, compared to those girls, these girls (albeit healthy and fit) are... plus size.
Also, most of the fashion designers design their clothes for the uppidy, pill popping, drug snorting, food purging, 600 calories eating crowd (sorry if I offended anyone by that description) so for those designers who aren't used to designing clothes for "normal" girls these are plus size.
From Kate Moss to Kate Upton. I like the trend of allowing more variety and healthy. Not saying the girls who are NATURALLY the size 0 like Kate Moss aren't healthy but when you develop and ED ("nothing tastes as good as skinny feels" was Moss's motto I believe?) then thats not natural.
agreed couldn't have said it better myself.0 -
I had a dream a few nights ago that I finally hit my goal in terms of body fat %, and I bought this type of bikini to celebrate. I wish!0 -
Ahhh, the ignore user feature makes things so nice.
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If that's the case, then I'm a chubby chaser.
lol.. this.. all day..0 -
She's not fat, but I do find her weight average and that's not good enough for a model.
I agree!0 -
Well models should also represent health while they're at it. Nothing wrong with fantasy models, just not enough average ones out there. Everywhere you turn you see size 0 models. No wonder girls who are Kate's size think they're fat..
Models are not making a public service announcement. They are selling ****.
You seem to have a rather shocking lack of understanding of how the media influences individuals. Wow. Just oh wow!
The media influences individuals who can't wrap their heads around that fact that it's a fantasy. That's my whole point. Let the fantasy be the fantasy that it is. Don't conflate it with reality and get all bent out of shape because the two don't measure up. They aren't supposed to. That's why it sells. You're the one who doesn't seem to understand.
I'm sorry, but I believe there are much better "fantasies" of female beauty to be created than ones using half-starved girls with eating disorders and editing the crap out of the pictures. That's essentially saying that pop music is a "fantasy" with all the auto-tuning and whatnot. And yes, they both sell, but not to the people who value quality.0 -
She's not fat, but I do find her weight average and that's not good enough for a model.
We need more average models. These really thin, airbrushed ones we have are the reason why so many girls have eating disorders.
What do we need average models for? We have average people everywhere. Models are supposed to represent a FANTASY. We can't handle the fact that we aren't perfect so we have to make art that's mediocre? C'mon.
Well models should also represent health while they're at it. Nothing wrong with fantasy models, just not enough average ones out there. Everywhere you turn you see size 0 models. No wonder girls who are Kate's size think they're fat..
I totally agree. We need more average models like we need more average intelligence doctors and physicists. All those smarty pants types giving people of average intelligence low self esteem. It's just not fair.
Comparing someone's intelligence to how they treat their body is not only irrelevant, but it's insulting to imply that the pinnacle of human beauty should revolve around being as thin as possible no matter what the cost to your health. But then again I'm not really surprised to see such a comment from you.0 -
Here is the skinny, pun somewhat intended. Kate Upton is NOT particularly photogenic. Speaking as a professional portrait photographer, American standards of beauty are obviously skewed because from that standpoint, Kate Upton is technically chubby.... for a professional model.
I agree that her weight is around the average for a "normal" woman in America. I can only guess that somebody at Sports Illustrated wanted a hooterific model on the cover. If Kate Upton was a size zero, her chest would disappear, relatively speaking. Breasts sell magazines - its the truth, like it or not.0 -
:noway: DANG!!! That girl needs to go herself some Jenny Craig!!!! :noway:0
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:noway: DANG!!! That girl needs to go herself some Jenny Craig!!!! :noway:
Interesting.0 -
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Holy Toledo - she is beautiful!0
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She's not fat, but I do find her weight average and that's not good enough for a model.
We need more average models. These really thin, airbrushed ones we have are the reason why so many girls have eating disorders.
What do we need average models for? We have average people everywhere. Models are supposed to represent a FANTASY. We can't handle the fact that we aren't perfect so we have to make art that's mediocre? C'mon.
Wha...I...I have no words for this.
I don't ever fantasize about my ribcage and hip bones sticking out.
^^ You took the burger... Oopps I mean words right outta my mouth!!! I dont find anything attractive or sexy about skin on bones...yuk!0 -
:noway: DANG!!! That girl needs to go herself some Jenny Craig!!!! :noway:
Wow..... I bet her wallet and followers would beg to differ.0 -
:noway: DANG!!! That girl needs to go herself some Jenny Craig!!!! :noway:
Wow..... I bet her wallet and followers would beg to differ.
I'm pretty sure ( not 100% but close) that the "noway" smiley was hinting at sarcasm.0 -
:noway: DANG!!! That girl needs to go herself some Jenny Craig!!!! :noway:
Wow..... I bet her wallet and followers would beg to differ.
I'm pretty sure ( not 100% but close) that the "noway" smiley was hinting at sarcasm.
this is why I should not respond from my phone. My bad.0 -
I don't think she's fat, but I don't think she helps on the body image front. She's average weight, but still has ginormous tits. So people tend to look past her lack of tone in other areas, because TITTAYS. So yeah, no help there.0
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She's not fat, but I do find her weight average and that's not good enough for a model.
Except that she seems to do quite well as a model. What other standards do we use to decide who is a good enough model? She's not a fitness model, but she still looks like she is in shape to me. If she were much more muscular, she may not fit her modeling niche.0 -
Well models should also represent health while they're at it. Nothing wrong with fantasy models, just not enough average ones out there. Everywhere you turn you see size 0 models. No wonder girls who are Kate's size think they're fat..
Models are not making a public service announcement. They are selling ****.
You seem to have a rather shocking lack of understanding of how the media influences individuals. Wow. Just oh wow!
The media influences individuals who can't wrap their heads around that fact that it's a fantasy. That's my whole point. Let the fantasy be the fantasy that it is. Don't conflate it with reality and get all bent out of shape because the two don't measure up. They aren't supposed to. That's why it sells. You're the one who doesn't seem to understand.
I'm sorry, but I believe there are much better "fantasies" of female beauty to be created than ones using half-starved girls with eating disorders and editing the crap out of the pictures. That's essentially saying that pop music is a "fantasy" with all the auto-tuning and whatnot. And yes, they both sell, but not to the people who value quality.
In.0 -
One thing is for sure. If I can end up like that post baby then my husband would be the happiest man on earth. She is not fat, but not a bag of bones either. I personally consider her healthy and wish the media would post more people like her and stop criticizing the likes of her about her weight. For instance if you take fashion celeb Kloe Kardashian, most people consider her "big", but she is within range of her weight and looks happy and healthy. The skinny models created the problem of being a bag of bones in the first place and in my opinion most of them seems very unhappy about life.0
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ITT. People get angry someone dares to insult Kate Upton based on her figure.
Then insult every other other model on their figure by insinuating they all have eating disorders are "half-starved" and need to gain weight to look acceptable to them.
Alright, guys.
Stay safe.0
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