All calories are not the same

And so is a cooked chicken breast?

meat needs to be cooked but is still considered a whole food

plants aren't considered whole foods unless you can pick them up and eat them without needing to manipulate them

I apologize, I assumed this concept was understood by all before posting

You're missing how arbitrary your concept actually is.

this is a concept learned in Nutrition 101, chapter 1

You're missing how arbitrary your concept actually is.

this is a concept learned in Nutrition 101, chapter 1

Okay then. You clearly know what you're doing. Please do teach us more . . .

And so is a cooked chicken breast?

meat needs to be cooked but is still considered a whole food

plants aren't considered whole foods unless you can pick them up and eat them without needing to manipulate them

I apologize, I assumed this concept was understood by all before posting

But processing (or cooking, if you will) meat or vegetables doesn't change that classification?

whole food
noun
1.
food that has been processed or refined as little as possible and is free from additives or other artificial substances.

And so is a cooked chicken breast?

meat needs to be cooked but is still considered a whole food

plants aren't considered whole foods unless you can pick them up and eat them without needing to manipulate them

I apologize, I assumed this concept was understood by all before posting

But processing (or cooking, if you will) meat or vegetables doesn't change that classification?

whole food
noun
1.
food that has been processed or refined as little as possible and is free from additives or other artificial substances.

"[A]s little as possible" for what exactly?

For human consumption?

You can eat raw chicken so by your own definition, you are incorrect.

And so is a cooked chicken breast?

meat needs to be cooked but is still considered a whole food

plants aren't considered whole foods unless you can pick them up and eat them without needing to manipulate them

I apologize, I assumed this concept was understood by all before posting

But processing (or cooking, if you will) meat or vegetables doesn't change that classification?

whole food
noun
1.
food that has been processed or refined as little as possible and is free from additives or other artificial substances.

"[A]s little as possible" for what exactly?

For human consumption?

You can eat raw chicken so by your own definition, you are incorrect.

And so is a cooked chicken breast?

meat needs to be cooked but is still considered a whole food

plants aren't considered whole foods unless you can pick them up and eat them without needing to manipulate them

I apologize, I assumed this concept was understood by all before posting

But processing (or cooking, if you will) meat or vegetables doesn't change that classification?

whole food
noun
1.
food that has been processed or refined as little as possible and is free from additives or other artificial substances.

"[A]s little as possible" for what exactly?

For human consumption?

You can eat raw chicken so by your own definition, you are incorrect.

you're absolutely right. my statement of "meat needs to be cooked" was false.

but meat is still considered a whole food, I'm not wrong about that

And so is a cooked chicken breast?

meat needs to be cooked but is still considered a whole food

plants aren't considered whole foods unless you can pick them up and eat them without needing to manipulate them

I apologize, I assumed this concept was understood by all before posting

But processing (or cooking, if you will) meat or vegetables doesn't change that classification?

whole food
noun
1.
food that has been processed or refined as little as possible and is free from additives or other artificial substances.

"[A]s little as possible" for what exactly?

For human consumption?

You can eat raw chicken so by your own definition, you are incorrect.

Meat definitely requires more processing than wheat in order to be safely edible.

This doesn't surprise me, majority of you use chemical substances such as aspartame ad sucralose as an alternative to sugar, because someone, somewhere told you it's completely healthy and natural.

Anyways, I dare any of you to consume 1200 calories of pizza a day for a month and monitor your results.
Now the next month eat 1200 calories of whole natural foods, preferably raw, organic fruits and vegetables. including raw nuts. and no, peanuts are not nuts. Now if you yield the same results with both diets I would be amazed, and it's simply would not happen. The fact is, at the end of the day, your body stores away fat in a means of protecting you. It's not going to store away the vegetables because it doesn't contain any fat, your body wants to store fat in case you suddenly don't have food anymore.
Pizza is a completely man made food, your body wasn't even designed to even digest man made foods . The body thrives on natural foods.

"We conclude that a calorie is a calorie. From a purely thermodynamic point of view, this is clear because the human body or, indeed, any living organism cannot create or destroy energy but can only convert energy from one form to another. In comparing energy balance between dietary treatments, however, it must be remembered that the units of dietary energy are metabolizable energy and not gross energy. This is perhaps unfortunate because metabolizable energy is much more difficult to determine than is gross energy, because the Atwater factors used in calculating metabolizable energy are not exact. As such, our food tables are not perfect, and small errors are associated with their use.

In addition, we concede that the substitution of one macronutrient for another has been shown in some studies to have a statistically significant effect on the expenditure half of the energy balance equation. This has been observed most often for high-protein diets. Evidence indicates, however, that the difference in energy expenditure is small and can potentially account for less than one-third of the differences in weight loss that have been reported between high-protein or low-carbohydrate diets and high-carbohydrate or low-fat diets. As such, a calorie is a calorie. Further research is needed to identify the mechanisms that result in greater weight loss with one diet than with another. "

From: The American Journal of Nutrition

Study: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/79/5/899S.full

But I guess your brilliant arguement of "Because I said so!" is a good enough counterargument.

Or are you suggesting that wheat isn't meant to be eaten at all?

I'm not, although there are many medical doctors making this suggestion, I'm not going there.

I was suggesting that its not necessarily a whole food since its a plant that you can't pick and eat.

in other words, bread is a processed food.