You eat too much.
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I am watching Supernatural while I read this post. I win this thread!
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Sam and Dean are here. We are all of us winners.There are no winners in this thread.0 -
I am watching Supernatural while I read this post. I win this thread!
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what about whiners? are there whiners in this thread?0 -
I am watching Supernatural while I read this post. I win this thread!
There are no winners in this thread.
what about whiners? are there whiners in this thread?
Yup...
...and yet I just realized I never even read OP...so I'm not even sure how I ended up in here.0 -
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http://www.kernelmag.com/features/report/6051/you-eat-too-much/
Most of you know this. Many of you don't. You don't get fat by eating the wrong foods or your genetics or whatever. You get fat by eating too much. End of story.
There are no magic diets. There are no evil nutrients. There are no bad foods. If you achieve and maintain a healthy body composition and exercise regularly you will have basically the best physical health you can have within a margin of maybe a couple of percent.
Take ownership of how much you eat and you will succeed. That's what MFP is all about.
...except cauliflower. It's pure evil.
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Agreed. It's of the Devil.
It's only the devil because people keep trying to make it into something it's not. Let cauliflower just be......
Cauliflower is Broccoli's ugly, bland, and tasteles younger sister that no one really wants around but tolerates because Broccoli's mom says so.
yum yum cauliflower and spinach dip!0 -
You don't know what bmi is...
And YOU don't know you're putting your health at risk.
Real rich considering what you have logged in your diary the past few days huh
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then how do you account for this?
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=when-dieting-not-all-calo0 -
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The only thing I question is the broad generalization that body composition and exercise are all that are needed for optimal health...0
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Eat less, move more. Hit your macros, eat something with a few frickin vitamins in it. And for the love, quit bickering with strangers on the internet.
And buy a sandwich for the next homeless person you see!0 -
then how do you account for this?
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=when-dieting-not-all-calo
I would like to see the studies cited in that. Ebbeling has a bunch of studies out, all on obese subjects from what I have seen and also seeming to focus on the impact of different diets on people who were insulin resistant. I cannot find a research paper that discussed the all four diets mentioned in the article (it would be could to see if you anyone can find it). However, the article mentions that the study was for four weeks - not long enough to come to any conclusions. It also should be noted that protein was not held constant.
Counterpoint.
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa0222070 -
9 pages?! That's all?! MOAR!then how do you account for this?
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=when-dieting-not-all-calo
I would like to see the studies cited in that. Ebbeling has a bunch of studies out, all on obese subjects from what I have seen and also seeming to focus on the impact of different diets on people who were insulin resistant. I cannot find a research paper that discussed the all four diets mentioned in the article (it would be could to see if you anyone can find it). However, the article mentions that the study was for four weeks - not long enough to come to any conclusions. It also should be noted that protein was not held constant.
Counterpoint.
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa022207
counter counter point:
http://nutrition.stanford.edu/projects/az.html
There's a good video to go along with it as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eREuZEdMAVo&noredirect=1
Bottom line is that some people have different reaction to the carbohydrate nutrient than other people. Those people lose weight easier on a low-carb diet. Some people are on the other end of the spectrum and lose less weight on a low-carb diet and more weight on a low-fat diet.
Sara -Here's another metabolic ward study that actually lasted 12 weeks. All of the subjects tried all of the diets in 3 different orders on a maintenance basis after weight loss. The low-carb folks had higher metabolisms than SAD or low-fat diet. Unfortunately the low-carb diet also increased the proportion of calories coming from protein, so that may be a confounder. In the end the study author recommends the low-glycemic diet because it improves inflammation markers better than either of the other two diets.
Link here: http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1199154
"Conclusion Among overweight and obese young adults compared with pre–weight-loss energy expenditure, isocaloric feeding following 10% to 15% weight loss resulted in decreases in REE and TEE that were greatest with the low-fat diet, intermediate with the low–glycemic index diet, and least with the very low-carbohydrate diet."
For the record, I am not a low-carber. I eat all kinda crap.0 -
Tagging to read later, because this is always a fun topic sure to bring out the trolls on both sides0
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I heard this is a dangerous thread in which to post...
...and I like to live dangerously (online), so...
...in*...
Now to go back and catch up on what's left of the nine pages I missed.
(* Sure, I was already in...but wanted to make absolutely sure I stayed in.)0 -
I heard this is a dangerous thread in which to post...
...and I like to live dangerously (online), so...
...in*...
Now to go back and catch up on what's left of the nine pages I missed.
(* Sure, I was already in...but wanted to make absolutely sure I stayed in.)
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Tagging to read at a later date :bigsmile:0
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Sam and Dean are here. We are all of us winners.There are no winners in this thread.
Quoted for win.0 -
Sam and Dean are here. We are all of us winners.There are no winners in this thread.
Quoted for win.
That originally quoted post was my initial entry into this thread. I remember nothing else about this thread...and may not have even read it all...but I'm still standing by my original post.0 -
http://www.kernelmag.com/features/report/6051/you-eat-too-much/
Most of you know this. Many of you don't. You don't get fat by eating the wrong foods or your genetics or whatever. You get fat by eating too much. End of story.
There are no magic diets. There are no evil nutrients. There are no bad foods. If you achieve and maintain a healthy body composition and exercise regularly you will have basically the best physical health you can have within a margin of maybe a couple of percent.
Take ownership of how much you eat and you will succeed. That's what MFP is all about.
...except cauliflower. It's pure evil.
.
Agreed. It's of the Devil.
It's only the devil because people keep trying to make it into something it's not. Let cauliflower just be......
Cauliflower is Broccoli's ugly, bland, and tasteles younger sister that no one really wants around but tolerates because Broccoli's mom says so.
yum yum cauliflower and spinach dip!
Why would you ruin spinach by turning it into dip? It's a lovely vegetable all on its own.
I won't dignify the use of yum in the same sentence as cauliflower with further acknowledgment.0 -
This is still going? Sweet.
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Eat less, move more. Hit your macros, eat something with a few frickin vitamins in it. And for the love, quit bickering with strangers on the internet.
And buy a sandwich for the next homeless person you see!
Well sandwiches are evil according to this.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1116774-do-not-eat-sandwiches
edited because I forgot the link like a moron.0 -
Eat less, move more. Hit your macros, eat something with a few frickin vitamins in it. And for the love, quit bickering with strangers on the internet.
And buy a sandwich for the next homeless person you see!
Well sandwiches are evil according to this.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1116774-do-not-eat-sandwiches
edited because I forgot the link like a moron.
Is it this thread where I learned that homeless people should never eat McDonald's too?
...or was that a different thread?0 -
...except cauliflower. It's pure evil.
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Noooooooooo... I love cauliflower!!!0 -
IN for a thoughtful discussion of privilege and how it skews understanding of such things as the plight of the homeless
No, wait. Wrong site.
IN for jimmie rustlin'.0 -
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Is it this thread where I learned that homeless people should never eat McDonald's too?
...or was that a different thread?
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I'm not sure. It's becoming a blur.0 -
Eat less, move more. Hit your macros, eat something with a few frickin vitamins in it. And for the love, quit bickering with strangers on the internet.
And buy a sandwich for the next homeless person you see!
Well sandwiches are evil according to this.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1116774-do-not-eat-sandwiches
edited because I forgot the link like a moron.
Is it this thread where I learned that homeless people should never eat McDonald's too?
...or was that a different thread?
This thread. I assume that post was removed before they unlocked this again.
Jeeze guys. If you can't keep track of this stuff, you'll never be functional alcoholics.0 -
couldnt tellI heard this is a dangerous thread in which to post...
...and I like to live dangerously (online), so...
...in*...
Now to go back and catch up on what's left of the nine pages I missed.
(* Sure, I was already in...but wanted to make absolutely sure I stayed in.)0 -
Ah, yes, it was this one... Can't believe it was only yesterday... Or the day before.... Or whatever. :laugh:Eat less, move more. Hit your macros, eat something with a few frickin vitamins in it. And for the love, quit bickering with strangers on the internet.
And buy a sandwich for the next homeless person you see!
Well sandwiches are evil according to this.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1116774-do-not-eat-sandwiches
edited because I forgot the link like a moron.
Is it this thread where I learned that homeless people should never eat McDonald's too?
...or was that a different thread?
This thread. I assume that post was removed before they unlocked this again.
Jeeze guys. If you can't keep track of this stuff, you'll never be functional alcoholics.0 -
There's a reason why raw foodists call the Standard American Diet, SAD. American food does suck, but what sucks more, is the amount of food pushers and judgmental *kitten*-holes, out there. For someone like me, who is already an emotional eater, with a brain that never manufactures enough dopamine, it's a double edged sword. (Take away lots of stuff from me, but if you take my chocolate, you die). And, of course, the amount of judgmental arses, too. The whole american culture is sorta' despicable. If you are old, you are invisible. If you are overweight, you are invisible. If you are overweight and old..........well, you get the picture, I am sure. Peeps just have to remember........."there but for the grace of god, go I', be less judgmental, (we all got our challenges........peeps who judge obviously have theirs), and be more civil and kind, (old folks were young, once, just like me/you/and whoever else is under 30, on this site). Enuf' said?0
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