You eat too much.

Eat less, move more. Hit your macros, eat something with a few frickin vitamins in it. And for the love, quit bickering with strangers on the internet.






And buy a sandwich for the next homeless person you see!

then how do you account for this?

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=when-dieting-not-all-calo

I would like to see the studies cited in that. Ebbeling has a bunch of studies out, all on obese subjects from what I have seen and also seeming to focus on the impact of different diets on people who were insulin resistant. I cannot find a research paper that discussed the all four diets mentioned in the article (it would be could to see if you anyone can find it). However, the article mentions that the study was for four weeks - not long enough to come to any conclusions. It also should be noted that protein was not held constant.

Counterpoint.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa022207

9 pages?! That's all?! MOAR!

counter counter point:

http://nutrition.stanford.edu/projects/az.html

There's a good video to go along with it as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eREuZEdMAVo&noredirect=1

Bottom line is that some people have different reaction to the carbohydrate nutrient than other people. Those people lose weight easier on a low-carb diet. Some people are on the other end of the spectrum and lose less weight on a low-carb diet and more weight on a low-fat diet.

Sara -Here's another metabolic ward study that actually lasted 12 weeks. All of the subjects tried all of the diets in 3 different orders on a maintenance basis after weight loss. The low-carb folks had higher metabolisms than SAD or low-fat diet. Unfortunately the low-carb diet also increased the proportion of calories coming from protein, so that may be a confounder. In the end the study author recommends the low-glycemic diet because it improves inflammation markers better than either of the other two diets.

Link here: http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1199154
"Conclusion Among overweight and obese young adults compared with pre–weight-loss energy expenditure, isocaloric feeding following 10% to 15% weight loss resulted in decreases in REE and TEE that were greatest with the low-fat diet, intermediate with the low–glycemic index diet, and least with the very low-carbohydrate diet."

For the record, I am not a low-carber. I eat all kinda crap.

I heard this is a dangerous thread in which to post...

...and I like to live dangerously (online), so...

...in*...

Now to go back and catch up on what's left of the nine pages I missed.



(* Sure, I was already in...but wanted to make absolutely sure I stayed in.)

Tagging to read at a later date :bigsmile:

There are no winners in this thread.

Sam and Dean are here. We are all of us winners.

Quoted for win.

That originally quoted post was my initial entry into this thread. I remember nothing else about this thread...and may not have even read it all...but I'm still standing by my original post.

This is still going? Sweet.

Eat less, move more. Hit your macros, eat something with a few frickin vitamins in it. And for the love, quit bickering with strangers on the internet.






And buy a sandwich for the next homeless person you see!

Well sandwiches are evil according to this.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1116774-do-not-eat-sandwiches

edited because I forgot the link like a moron.

Is it this thread where I learned that homeless people should never eat McDonald's too?

...or was that a different thread?

IN for a thoughtful discussion of privilege and how it skews understanding of such things as the plight of the homeless


No, wait. Wrong site.

IN for jimmie rustlin'.

Eat less, move more. Hit your macros, eat something with a few frickin vitamins in it. And for the love, quit bickering with strangers on the internet.






And buy a sandwich for the next homeless person you see!

Well sandwiches are evil according to this.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1116774-do-not-eat-sandwiches

edited because I forgot the link like a moron.

Is it this thread where I learned that homeless people should never eat McDonald's too?

...or was that a different thread?

This thread. I assume that post was removed before they unlocked this again.

Jeeze guys. If you can't keep track of this stuff, you'll never be functional alcoholics.

Eat less, move more. Hit your macros, eat something with a few frickin vitamins in it. And for the love, quit bickering with strangers on the internet.






And buy a sandwich for the next homeless person you see!

Well sandwiches are evil according to this.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1116774-do-not-eat-sandwiches

edited because I forgot the link like a moron.

Is it this thread where I learned that homeless people should never eat McDonald's too?

...or was that a different thread?

This thread. I assume that post was removed before they unlocked this again.

Jeeze guys. If you can't keep track of this stuff, you'll never be functional alcoholics.

Ah, yes, it was this one... Can't believe it was only yesterday... Or the day before.... Or whatever. :laugh: