Don't forget to get your flu shot!

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  • jenifr818
    jenifr818 Posts: 805 Member
    The flu shot was integrated with flouride additives to municipal water supplies under HW Bush, as a stimulus to both industrial waste and pharmaceuticals. The current "flu shot" is comprised mainly of radioactive isotopes used by the NSA to categorize and track US citizens.

    And now the fun begins
  • mammamaurer
    mammamaurer Posts: 418 Member
    nope never got one, nor have my kids... the docs offer and we decline every year
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I got mine in nov...I had the flu last week...

    Happens to everyone I know who gets a flu shot...hence the reason I've never done it...

    Yep. In 20 years I've had the flu twice, and both times it was after I got the flu shot. I was out of work for a week the last time, so I'm done with those damn shots.

    So..... you think getting the flu shot gave you the flu? Is that what you're saying here?

    I know this wasn't directed at me, but I'll bite.

    I've had the flu/flu-like symptoms three times in my adult life. Two of those times started the day after I received a flu shot (in the mid-90s). Those are the only two times I've ever had the flu shot. Did the flu shot *cause* the flu/these symptoms? Who knows. I know the experts say it's impossible*. But as a human being who likes to draw causation conclusions based on personal experience, it's impossible for me *not* to conclude that the shot played some role...so until I'm in a situation where the shot will measurably affect others, I'm going to pass.


    *I suspect they're right that it doesn't cause *the flu*, but I'm not convinced that it doesn't possibly cause "flu-like symptoms". Those symptoms knocked me our of work for a week each time.
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,149 Member
    I don't get the flu shot and won't ever. I'm not worried about catching it from other people. If I get it, I get it.

    To the person inferring people like me are hypocrites from not getting the flu shot while getting MMR shots, last I knew, the flu shot wasn't legally mandatory in order to attend U.S./Canadian schools.

    No, wasn't inferring that people like you are hypocrites, just pointing out that getting a flu shot is no less different in order to help protect your health - or would you adamantly turn down MMR/ Pertussis vaccines too given the chance?

    A good bout of swine flu - and you won't miss a flu shot again, LOL

    MMR shots were about my health and Iowa law when I was going to grade school (no choice in getting them since I got jabbed despite all my screaming). I only had booster shots in 1992 so I could attend university because the school's legal policy made them mandatory and, at the time, I thought I would be furthering my education. I would not get those shots again unless legally obligated.

    I've been lucky to not get the flu since I was about 5 (unless the symptoms were mitigated and presented themselves as a cold/sore throat) and I live with people who get the flu every couple of years and 2 of them were down with the swine flu during that pandemic.
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,149 Member
    I don't get the flu shot and won't ever. I'm not worried about catching it from other people. If I get it, I get it.

    To the person inferring people like me are hypocrites from not getting the flu shot while getting MMR shots, last I knew, the flu shot wasn't legally mandatory in order to attend U.S./Canadian schools.

    The problem with this is that you're contagious for a day or two before you have any symptoms.

    So if you do get the flu, you could pass it on to dozens of people before you are even aware you're spreading it.

    And once you are showing symptoms, chances are you won't spend the next week in total isolation, so you'll keep on spreading it to people.

    The flu shot is not just about you - it's about everyone else.

    I didn't realize it was my sole responsibility to keep others from getting the flu. Clinics should put Smokey the bear on the posters. I understand your logic and reasonings, though.

    So you do not believe that you have a social responsibility to not spread any viruses you may have contracted to others?
    No, I don't.
  • k8blujay2
    k8blujay2 Posts: 4,941 Member
    My problem with the flu shot is that it's basically a shot in the dark... Yes, they use statistics and analysis to figure out which strains are going to be the problem this year... but it changes every year and sometimes it's not even close... So even if you get the flu shot, the strain that the shot doesn't protect against may very well be the strain that everyone is getting.... If I ever find my immune system compromised (West Nile like to reek havoc on our area), then I will take the risk with the flu shot (I did when my immune system was lowered due to pregnancy)... but for now, I will take my 1/32 of a chance of getting it (and that chance is shrinking every year) and just do things like washing my hands, coving my mouth with my elbow when I sneeze, etc to keep myself and others from spreading it.
  • mammamaurer
    mammamaurer Posts: 418 Member
    The flu shot was integrated with flouride additives to municipal water supplies under HW Bush, as a stimulus to both industrial waste and pharmaceuticals. The current "flu shot" is comprised mainly of radioactive isotopes used by the NSA to categorize and track US citizens.

    And now the fun begins

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  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    In other news, when I first read this thread title:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1152932-harming-children-to-make-yourself-feel-good

    I thought it might be about the flu shot.


    (Hey, I'm not saying I *agree* with that connection...just that I thought someone on MFP might actually make a post like that.)
  • k8blujay2
    k8blujay2 Posts: 4,941 Member
    I got mine in nov...I had the flu last week...

    Happens to everyone I know who gets a flu shot...hence the reason I've never done it...

    Yep. In 20 years I've had the flu twice, and both times it was after I got the flu shot. I was out of work for a week the last time, so I'm done with those damn shots.

    So..... you think getting the flu shot gave you the flu? Is that what you're saying here?

    I know this wasn't directed at me, but I'll bite.

    I've had the flu/flu-like symptoms three times in my adult life. Two of those times started the day after I received a flu shot (in the mid-90s). Those are the only two times I've ever had the flu shot. Did the flu shot *cause* the flu/these symptoms? Who knows. I know the experts say it's impossible*. But as a human being who likes to draw causation conclusions based on personal experience, it's impossible for me *not* to conclude that the shot played some role...so until I'm in a situation where the shot will measurably affect others, I'm going to pass.


    *I suspect they're right that it doesn't cause *the flu*, but I'm not convinced that it doesn't possibly cause "flu-like symptoms". Those symptoms knocked me our of work for a week each time.

    It did my dad everytime too... and being in the military he was required to get it every year... until that is, he talked to his doctor, got the shot, said "see I told you so", got waived (after much resistance) from the flu-shot the next year and didn't miss work due to the "flu-like" symptoms ever again.
  • littlepinkhearts
    littlepinkhearts Posts: 1,055 Member
    never had the flu except maybe when i was young, but don't remember having it then either and i've never had the flu shot, nor do i want it.
  • wheird
    wheird Posts: 7,963 Member
    I don't get the flu shot and won't ever. I'm not worried about catching it from other people. If I get it, I get it.

    To the person inferring people like me are hypocrites from not getting the flu shot while getting MMR shots, last I knew, the flu shot wasn't legally mandatory in order to attend U.S./Canadian schools.

    The problem with this is that you're contagious for a day or two before you have any symptoms.

    So if you do get the flu, you could pass it on to dozens of people before you are even aware you're spreading it.

    And once you are showing symptoms, chances are you won't spend the next week in total isolation, so you'll keep on spreading it to people.

    The flu shot is not just about you - it's about everyone else.

    I didn't realize it was my sole responsibility to keep others from getting the flu. Clinics should put Smokey the bear on the posters. I understand your logic and reasonings, though.

    So you do not believe that you have a social responsibility to not spread any viruses you may have contracted to others?
    No, I don't.

    Do you believe that a property owner has a responsibility to make sure that their property doesnt cause damage to another person's property?
  • honeysprinkles
    honeysprinkles Posts: 1,757 Member
    I never get the flu and I never get a flu shot. I live in Florida so it's not really like we have a winter here anyways. If I don't get the flu, how am I risking other people, how can I give them something if I don't get it myself?

    I don't like shots, so I don't get them when I don't need them. I don't really get why this is controversial.
  • Flab2fitfi
    Flab2fitfi Posts: 1,349 Member
    Personally, I don't get the shot. And now that I have a daughter I wasn't sure if I should make her get one or not. But turns out she is allergic to eggs and can't have it anyway. Thanks God for making the decision for me ;)

    There are alternative vaccines for those allergic to eggs. IIRC the nasal spray version is fine for those people. So it's not really God making a decision for you.

    I've been told by my doctor not to have either and the NHS even say the nasal spray is not suitable for someone with egg allergy.

    http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/vaccinations/Pages/child-flu-vaccine.aspx
  • Never had a flu shot, Never had the flu. Coincidence? Doubt it.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I got mine in nov...I had the flu last week...

    Happens to everyone I know who gets a flu shot...hence the reason I've never done it...

    Yep. In 20 years I've had the flu twice, and both times it was after I got the flu shot. I was out of work for a week the last time, so I'm done with those damn shots.

    So..... you think getting the flu shot gave you the flu? Is that what you're saying here?

    I know this wasn't directed at me, but I'll bite.

    I've had the flu/flu-like symptoms three times in my adult life. Two of those times started the day after I received a flu shot (in the mid-90s). Those are the only two times I've ever had the flu shot. Did the flu shot *cause* the flu/these symptoms? Who knows. I know the experts say it's impossible*. But as a human being who likes to draw causation conclusions based on personal experience, it's impossible for me *not* to conclude that the shot played some role...so until I'm in a situation where the shot will measurably affect others, I'm going to pass.


    *I suspect they're right that it doesn't cause *the flu*, but I'm not convinced that it doesn't possibly cause "flu-like symptoms". Those symptoms knocked me our of work for a week each time.

    It did my dad everytime too... and being in the military he was required to get it every year... until that is, he talked to his doctor, got the shot, said "see I told you so", got waived (after much resistance) from the flu-shot the next year and didn't miss work due to the "flu-like" symptoms ever again.

    And to demonstrate that I'm not completely heartless and selfish without concern for the "greater good", I'd actually be willing to participate in a study testing responses to the flu shot. Would be interesting if they could round up a bunch of others like me (or with stories similar to mine) and actually observe the response. But until then (or at least until it is required), I am done doing my own n=1 study.

    Just remember, everyone is different...

    (...even if we're all here for the same reason.)
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    Cannot remember the last time I took a flu shot.
  • jwdieter
    jwdieter Posts: 2,582 Member
    Thousands of people every year die after getting flu shots.
  • MysteriousMerlin
    MysteriousMerlin Posts: 2,270 Member
    Yes, as a condition of employment, and because I work in a hospital and have contact with staff who have contact with influenza patients. I am also trying to conceive.

    Whether you get the flu shot or not is your personal choice, but you should probably avoid or reduce contact with children, the elderly and anyone immuno-depressed. You may not get sick, but you could easily pass it along to someone who could.
  • CallMeCupcakeDammit
    CallMeCupcakeDammit Posts: 9,377 Member
    I got mine in nov...I had the flu last week...

    Happens to everyone I know who gets a flu shot...hence the reason I've never done it...

    Yep. In 20 years I've had the flu twice, and both times it was after I got the flu shot. I was out of work for a week the last time, so I'm done with those damn shots.

    So..... you think getting the flu shot gave you the flu? Is that what you're saying here?

    20 years is a long enough span of time, so yeah, I'm gonna go with...yeah. Both times I was the only one in my family who got sick, and as sick as I was the last time, there's no way I'm risking it again. And exactly what jof said.
  • honeysprinkles
    honeysprinkles Posts: 1,757 Member
    I don't get the flu shot and won't ever. I'm not worried about catching it from other people. If I get it, I get it.

    To the person inferring people like me are hypocrites from not getting the flu shot while getting MMR shots, last I knew, the flu shot wasn't legally mandatory in order to attend U.S./Canadian schools.

    The problem with this is that you're contagious for a day or two before you have any symptoms.

    So if you do get the flu, you could pass it on to dozens of people before you are even aware you're spreading it.

    And once you are showing symptoms, chances are you won't spend the next week in total isolation, so you'll keep on spreading it to people.

    The flu shot is not just about you - it's about everyone else.

    I didn't realize it was my sole responsibility to keep others from getting the flu. Clinics should put Smokey the bear on the posters. I understand your logic and reasonings, though.

    So you do not believe that you have a social responsibility to not spread any viruses you may have contracted to others?
    No, I don't.

    Do you believe that a property owner has a responsibility to make sure that their property doesnt cause damage to another person's property?
    That's not really the same thing. It doesn't matter what you believe in that case, that's usually decided by law.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I got mine in nov...I had the flu last week...

    Happens to everyone I know who gets a flu shot...hence the reason I've never done it...

    Yep. In 20 years I've had the flu twice, and both times it was after I got the flu shot. I was out of work for a week the last time, so I'm done with those damn shots.

    So..... you think getting the flu shot gave you the flu? Is that what you're saying here?

    20 years is a long enough span of time, so yeah, I'm gonna go with...yeah. Both times I was the only one in my family who got sick, and as sick as I was the last time, there's no way I'm risking it again. And exactly what jof said.

    Well here's the question: is it possible that you would change your mind about that?
  • Akimajuktuq
    Akimajuktuq Posts: 3,037 Member
    This is fricken offensive!!! Mind your own business and don't tell, or even suggest, that other people get medical treatments. As a person who has been injured by this vaccine, along with my child who had a severe reaction from the shedding of the FluMist vaccine that her classmates received, I am VERY, VERY offended by this post.

    For those who do want to get ANY vaccine, READ THE INSERTS at the very least.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    This is fricken offensive!!! Mind your own business and don't tell, or even suggest, that other people get medical treatments. As a person who has been injured by this vaccine, along with my child who had a severe reaction from the shedding of the FluMist vaccine that her classmates received, I am VERY, VERY offended by this post.

    For those who do want to get ANY vaccine, READ THE INSERTS at the very least.

    You're "VERY VERY offended"? Really?

    Come on.
  • So_Much_Fab
    So_Much_Fab Posts: 1,146 Member
    Thread title implies that we all WANT the flu shot but perhaps it just slipped our minds.

    Despite the gentle and caring reminder - I'll continue to not get the flu shot.

    Thanks anyway!
  • micktbaby
    micktbaby Posts: 29 Member
    What if you don't want to be part of the herd that is willing to take chemicals into their body that may or may not provide you with any protection ? There is also no 100% sure way to tell if you may have bad reaction to it. So far in this country we can choose what we want injected into us. This is a very personal decision. Some employers are making this a mandatory requirement, after you sign a waiver to release them of any responsibility. There is way more to this than just " everybody get your flu shot!"
  • I don't get the flu shot and won't ever. I'm not worried about catching it from other people. If I get it, I get it.

    To the person inferring people like me are hypocrites from not getting the flu shot while getting MMR shots, last I knew, the flu shot wasn't legally mandatory in order to attend U.S./Canadian schools.

    No, wasn't inferring that people like you are hypocrites, just pointing out that getting a flu shot is no less different in order to help protect your health - or would you adamantly turn down MMR/ Pertussis vaccines too given the chance?

    A good bout of swine flu - and you won't miss a flu shot again, LOL

    H1N1(Swine flu) and the influenza vaccination aren't the same thing.. Unless they've made a hybrid vaccine that combines them all I am unaware of.
    Besides, Good bout of swine flu will make sure you don't get the swine flu again- that's what our immune systems are designed to do, build antibodies against the viruses.... in essence, catching the flu will ensure you don't catch that particular strain of flu again :P
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    There is way more to this than just " everybody get your flu shot!"

    There's not really a lot more to it. There are a few people who shouldn't get it. Everyone else pretty much should.
  • wheird
    wheird Posts: 7,963 Member
    This is fricken offensive!!! Mind your own business and don't tell, or even suggest, that other people get medical treatments. As a person who has been injured by this vaccine, along with my child who had a severe reaction from the shedding of the FluMist vaccine that her classmates received, I am VERY, VERY offended by this post.

    For those who do want to get ANY vaccine, READ THE INSERTS at the very least.

    I am genuinely sorry about you and your child's injury. But being offended by a friendly reminder is your own choice and there is not much I, or anyone else can do about it.
  • wheird
    wheird Posts: 7,963 Member
    What if you don't want to be part of the herd that is willing to take chemicals into their body that may or may not provide you with any protection ? There is also no 100% sure way to tell if you may have bad reaction to it. So far in this country we can choose what we want injected into us. This is a very personal decision. Some employers are making this a mandatory requirement, after you sign a waiver to release them of any responsibility. There is way more to this than just " everybody get your flu shot!"

    Perhaps you should pay for the protection I am providing you. Mob-style.
  • ajaxe432
    ajaxe432 Posts: 608 Member
    Never had a flu shot, Never had the flu. Coincidence? Doubt it.
    Knock on wood.