WHO: Governments should regulate fast food to slow obesity

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Who's to say that we aren't exactly where the government wants us?

I think governments should use education, not regulation, to battle obesity.

THIS.

Also personal accountability. Fast food makes people fat like guns kill people.

Any time there is talk of fast food on here, I seriously want to have that for lunch.

Can I come with??

Absolutley!

Me and you then hon.

Someone else mentioned bacon and eggs, may have to go some where else:laugh:

Man we have thrown a lot of money at education, and we ain't doing so good....just sayin.

Roads and infrastructure.....something setup in our constitution and fine for the government to do.
No problem there for me.

Advertising....hmm....yeah, cause I don't see teens smoking or drinking or doing drugs.....
so that is working so well

Teens are smoking and drinking a lot less than they used to, and you would have to be incredibly ignorant of the actual history to think that government intervention has had nothing to do with that.

So that is all because of government intervention???
Nothing to do with private organizations or charities????
or the fact the cost of smoking has went way up.....???

So here is an interesting article.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/2/2/who-tighter-economicregulationneededtoreverseobesityepidemic.html

"Unless governments take steps to regulate their economies, the invisible hand of the market will continue to promote obesity worldwide with disastrous consequences for future public health and economic productivity," said Roberto De Vogli of the University of California, Davis, who led the study.

The researchers compared the number of fast food transactions with body mass index (BMI) in 25 high-income countries between 1999 and 2008.

They found that, as the average number of annual fast food transactions increased from 26.61 to 32.76 per person, average BMI increased from 25.8 to 26.4.

Thoughts??

I spend a lot more on food now that I buy less processed pre-made stuff and more fresh fruit, produce and meats. I had to stop buying organic due to cost. I follow the sales. I was so excited yesterday. I got asparagus fro $1.69 a pound yesterday! (normally in the 3-5 dollar range) that's one part of 1 meal. I still have to add in meat and starch and salad. We're way over what it would cost me buy 2 burgers and a bag of fries from a fast food joint. 3 bucks on the dollar menu.


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There you guy...
Never buy organic.

I'll go back to organic as soon as I can afford it. The asparagus price was the non-organic price, the organic price was more.

Personal responsibility and self-control IS the issue...and right now, many parents don't teach it and hold kids accountable, schools can't or won't push it and so our society crumbles passing it off the the gov't to regulate.

I'm pretty sure private companies didn't have anything to do with lowering smoking rates.

And increasing cost of smoking has a ton to do with it, actually. Increased cost is one of the most significant drivers of decreasing smoking rates.

Of course, the reason cigarettes cost so much these days is principally because of taxes.

and there you go, now we have the answer

We tax people to get them to behave how we want......you don't see a problem with that???

What do you think Obamacare is???
The SCOTUS said it was a tax, and you yourself just said that taxes is why smoking costs more.
So what do you think will happen with healthcare???

Like I said.....healthcare/insurance costs are gonna go up far more and far faster due to government than due to obesity

I think people need to just be more accountable and stop making excuses.

This 10000000000X

I spend a lot more on food now that I buy less processed pre-made stuff and more fresh fruit, produce and meats. I had to stop buying organic due to cost. I follow the sales. I was so excited yesterday. I got asparagus fro $1.69 a pound yesterday! (normally in the 3-5 dollar range) that's one part of 1 meal. I still have to add in meat and starch and salad. We're way over what it would cost me buy 2 burgers and a bag of fries from a fast food joint. 3 bucks on the dollar menu.


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There you guy...
Never buy organic.

I'll go back to organic as soon as I can afford it. The asparagus price was the non-organic price, the organic price was more.

Isn't it scary to know the real market price for food that is organic and grown right has barley any profit. I raise my own chickens strictly for eggs if I was going to make any profit I'd probably have to sell them a dollar an egg.

I spend a lot more on food now that I buy less processed pre-made stuff and more fresh fruit, produce and meats. I had to stop buying organic due to cost. I follow the sales. I was so excited yesterday. I got asparagus fro $1.69 a pound yesterday! (normally in the 3-5 dollar range) that's one part of 1 meal. I still have to add in meat and starch and salad. We're way over what it would cost me buy 2 burgers and a bag of fries from a fast food joint. 3 bucks on the dollar menu.


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There you guy...
Never buy organic.

I'll go back to organic as soon as I can afford it. The asparagus price was the non-organic price, the organic price was more.

Isn't it scary to know the real market price for food that is organic and grown right has barley any profit. I raise my own chickens strictly for eggs if I was going to make any profit I'd probably have to sell them a dollar an egg.

not scary because i understand economics and scale.

I don't think it is lawfully right to tax food since it is not a drug like nicotine but I think raising the price obese people pay for healthcare would help motivate people to lose weight. Not only that, being obese costs everyone else more on the system because obese people run a risk of having more health problems even though they could fix this issue. It is a very difficult topic to talk about since a lot of Americans value freedoms and want to make their own choices in life. The problem is that when choices made affect the people around you in such a way that regulation is needed. Personal responsibility is the best option in an ideal world in my opinion but this isn't an ideal world and not everyone can be trusted to do what is best for themselves and their family.

I don't think it is lawfully right to tax food since it is not a drug like nicotine but I think raising the price obese people pay for healthcare would help motivate people to lose weight. Not only that, being obese costs everyone else more on the system because obese people run a risk of having more health problems even though they could fix this issue. It is a very difficult topic to talk about since a lot of Americans value freedoms and want to make their own choices in life. The problem is that when choices made affect the people around you in such a way that regulation is needed. Personal responsibility is the best option in an ideal world in my opinion but this isn't an ideal world and not everyone can be trusted to do what is best for themselves and their family.

See this has been my point.

Let the obese feel the weight of their decisions....
When you separate the consequences of poor choices from the person, than they have no reason to rectify the problem

And that is what happens when government gets involved....it separates the individual from the choices he or she has made.