WHO: Governments should regulate fast food to slow obesity

There is no such thing as "unbiased". It's your biases that cause you to discount the message you didn't want to hear.

We all have biases. When you can follow the research in spite of your own personal bias... and change your preconceived notions... that's when you're on to something.

Hey I spoke the same party line as you did 18 months ago. Follow the facts. You will be surprised where it leads. Start with the movie Forks Over Knives.

Start with more propaganda? A video from a doctor who is known to simply cherry pick information and ignore studies that don't mesh with his theory, is not substantiation of your nonsense

Point of correction, Dr. Greger had nothing to do with Forks Over Knives.

You are right on party line. Whatever you think is right.

My original point was education. You seem to be reasonably educated to your point of view, and have a set opinion.

And yet you sound like you don't actually know what causes heart disease, the leading cause of death in the U.S. I could be wrong about you, by the way.

This is the problem. There is a huge economic machine behind everyone believing that meat, dairy, and eggs have absolutely nothing to do with heart disease, so these industries fund studies/research that support their point of view, and cloud the causes.

And people easily buy into this because they don't like the message. They don't want to know that bacon and eggs will kill them when they are older. And so it goes.

Obesity... the laziest form of population control.

Leave people alone and let it "roll"

Its crap..
when ever you ask Big Brother to watch over you. its not a good thing.
People need to protect themselfs...

Should we get rid of the stop signs? Let Smirnoff market a "Vodka for Kids" brand?

We've got a million little rules designed to make the system run more smoothly, and most of them are pretty sensible. I'm not saying we need to outlaw the cheeseburger, but surely there are some practical things that could be done to reverse obesity rates.

Name three. Don't worry, I'll wait.

1) Schools. Example: Including effective, practical, evidence-based nutrition and fitness education in schools. Health programs currently existing in schools are incredibly outdated and ineffective, and much more effective alternatives have been demonstrated. They're simply not implemented.

2) Public infrastructure. Example: Remove barriers to and increase acceptability of alternative transportation strategies. Many simple, easy changes (such as better bike lanes and reorganizing and renovating bus/subway systems) have been shown to have significant effects on daily activity levels and health.

3) Advertising. Example: significant restrictions on the foods allowed to be marketed directly to children. There is real evidence that limiting advertising to children decreases consumption of high-calorie foods such as sugary cereals.

There is a ton that governments (from local to federal) can do to actually make an impact on obesity rates.

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Who's to say that we aren't exactly where the government wants us?

I think governments should use education, not regulation, to battle obesity.

THIS.

Also personal accountability. Fast food makes people fat like guns kill people.

Any time there is talk of fast food on here, I seriously want to have that for lunch.

Can I come with??

Absolutley!

Me and you then hon.

Someone else mentioned bacon and eggs, may have to go some where else:laugh:

Man we have thrown a lot of money at education, and we ain't doing so good....just sayin.

Roads and infrastructure.....something setup in our constitution and fine for the government to do.
No problem there for me.

Advertising....hmm....yeah, cause I don't see teens smoking or drinking or doing drugs.....
so that is working so well

Teens are smoking and drinking a lot less than they used to, and you would have to be incredibly ignorant of the actual history to think that government intervention has had nothing to do with that.

So that is all because of government intervention???
Nothing to do with private organizations or charities????
or the fact the cost of smoking has went way up.....???

Perhaps if they make healthy food more affordable people would buy that with their last dollar instead of the cheeseburger..

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A salad is less filling then a typical fast food meal. You can make it more filling by adding nuts, cheese, bacon, tuna etc.. increasing it's price. A pepper is 1 dollar.. and those are part of my meal, if I eat just a pepper for lunch I am starving... a burger costs me a dollar and that *is* my meal. I might be hungry later, but it will fill me up now. Chicken, fish, beef, veggies are not cheap. a 5oz can of tuna fish is over a buck, and not filling. Chicken on sale is is 2 dollars a pound. 3-4 when not on sale. Beef is ridiculous. Pork is ridiculous. fish is ridiculous.

I spend a lot more on food now that I buy less processed pre-made stuff and more fresh fruit, produce and meats. I had to stop buying organic due to cost. I follow the sales. I was so excited yesterday. I got asparagus fro $1.69 a pound yesterday! (normally in the 3-5 dollar range) that's one part of 1 meal. I still have to add in meat and starch and salad. We're way over what it would cost me buy 2 burgers and a bag of fries from a fast food joint. 3 bucks on the dollar menu.


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I spend a lot more on food now that I buy less processed pre-made stuff and more fresh fruit, produce and meats. I had to stop buying organic due to cost. I follow the sales. I was so excited yesterday. I got asparagus fro $1.69 a pound yesterday! (normally in the 3-4 dollar range) that's one part of 1 meal. I still have to add in meat and starch and salad. We're way over what it would cost me buy 2 burgers and a bag of fries from a fast food joint. 3 bucks on the dollar menu.


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There you guy...
Never buy organic.

I spend a lot more on food now that I buy less processed pre-made stuff and more fresh fruit, produce and meats. I had to stop buying organic due to cost. I follow the sales. I was so excited yesterday. I got asparagus fro $1.69 a pound yesterday! (normally in the 3-5 dollar range) that's one part of 1 meal. I still have to add in meat and starch and salad. We're way over what it would cost me buy 2 burgers and a bag of fries from a fast food joint. 3 bucks on the dollar menu.


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There you guy...
Never buy organic.

I'll go back to organic as soon as I can afford it. The asparagus price was the non-organic price, the organic price was more.