News - woman asked to cover her toned body in the gym?

Penfoldsplace · March 2014

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The derogatory way some have talked about PF members on here kind of illustrates why some people may feel more comfortable starting out in that environment.

I believe the critique has been of PF's corporate policy not the actual members ….

They have a corporate policy for a reason and I'm assuming it's successful. The policy is therefore what the majority of members want, otherwise it would be an awful business model. The implication that some people don't have goals that push themselves to the max doesn't make their goals any less valid. I lost a lot of weight just watching my diet and walking. Now I have changed my goals and push myself harder, but we all have to start somewhere and maybe PF is geared towards people starting out.

Personally I don't mind what people wear at the gym, I never really notice to be honest. I just have sympathy with people who may find that environment a good starting point. It's the same reason you have women only gyms I guess, I couldn't care less myself but I can see why some women might want that.

eh - my main complaint with PF is that the no squatting, deadlifting, lifting heavy, etc is setting people up for failure ….but I guess if you want an environment that coddles you and provides free pizza, bagels, and candy so that you eat back all your exercise calories and never seem to progress AND want to pay for that ..then more power to them….

I like going to my gym and seeing a bunch of shredded dudes/females killing it..it motivates me

People have different goals though, I don't see anything wrong with that. As I said I lost a lot of weight without lifting or any of those things, I don't think I failed doing it that way. My goals have changed now, so when I joined a gym I asked what facilities they had and decided to join on that basis.

yea, but you made that choice for yourself…PF makes it for its members…

I think people need to make their own decisions. If I am going to shell out money for something then I research it. PF doesn't sound like it would fit my goals so I wouldn't sign up. I know everyone loves lifting on here, and I like it too. It's been very positive for me but not everyone has the same goals for whatever reason so let them join whatever gym meets their needs.

MireyGal76 · March 2014

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This and I also hate my clothes bunching up on me. A tight pair of athletic pants is WAY more comfy than a pair of shorts that crawl and bunch when you're running.I hate t-shirts when I'm running or boxing. Can't stand worrying about tucking it in when I'm planking so that someone cant see up my shirt. I can't imagine doing box jumps with a t-shirt flopping around.

I also like seeing my strength gains. When I am boxing, I like seeing the muscles pop in my shoulders and biceps. When I am lifting, I like being able to see which muscle groupings are being activated. I like feeling proud of my accomplishment.

So for me it's clear that I'd never want to go there. I go where I am comfortable.

Which right now, apart from my boxing club. Is at home in my basement.

My cat doesn't complain about my short shorts, knee highs and sport bra.

OMG.............do you also kiss the mirror while you 'pop' here there and everywhere:ohwell:

Of course I do. Doesn't everyone?

If you were Mirey, you'd probably be licking the mirror after working out.

No no there are too many germs on the mirror from my sweaty kisses.

likitisplit · March 2014

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The derogatory way some have talked about PF members on here kind of illustrates why some people may feel more comfortable starting out in that environment.

I believe the critique has been of PF's corporate policy not the actual members ….

They have a corporate policy for a reason and I'm assuming it's successful. The policy is therefore what the majority of members want, otherwise it would be an awful business model. The implication that some people don't have goals that push themselves to the max doesn't make their goals any less valid. I lost a lot of weight just watching my diet and walking. Now I have changed my goals and push myself harder, but we all have to start somewhere and maybe PF is geared towards people starting out.

Personally I don't mind what people wear at the gym, I never really notice to be honest. I just have sympathy with people who may find that environment a good starting point. It's the same reason you have women only gyms I guess, I couldn't care less myself but I can see why some women might want that.

They DONT seem to have a clearly defined corporate policy though.

I suspect their corporate policy is clearly defined, but inconsistently enforced.

Please link to it if you can find it. The nearest I can see is no jeans, no work boots, no bandannas.

ndj1979 · March 2014

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The derogatory way some have talked about PF members on here kind of illustrates why some people may feel more comfortable starting out in that environment.

I believe the critique has been of PF's corporate policy not the actual members ….

They have a corporate policy for a reason and I'm assuming it's successful. The policy is therefore what the majority of members want, otherwise it would be an awful business model. The implication that some people don't have goals that push themselves to the max doesn't make their goals any less valid. I lost a lot of weight just watching my diet and walking. Now I have changed my goals and push myself harder, but we all have to start somewhere and maybe PF is geared towards people starting out.

Personally I don't mind what people wear at the gym, I never really notice to be honest. I just have sympathy with people who may find that environment a good starting point. It's the same reason you have women only gyms I guess, I couldn't care less myself but I can see why some women might want that.

eh - my main complaint with PF is that the no squatting, deadlifting, lifting heavy, etc is setting people up for failure ….but I guess if you want an environment that coddles you and provides free pizza, bagels, and candy so that you eat back all your exercise calories and never seem to progress AND want to pay for that ..then more power to them….

I like going to my gym and seeing a bunch of shredded dudes/females killing it..it motivates me

People have different goals though, I don't see anything wrong with that. As I said I lost a lot of weight without lifting or any of those things, I don't think I failed doing it that way. My goals have changed now, so when I joined a gym I asked what facilities they had and decided to join on that basis.

yea, but you made that choice for yourself…PF makes it for its members…

I think people need to make their own decisions. If I am going to shell out money for something then I research it. PF doesn't sound like it would fit my goals so I wouldn't sign up. I know everyone loves lifting on here, and I like it too. It's been very positive for me but not everyone has the same goals for whatever reason so let them join whatever gym meets their needs.

agree…but take hypothetical person A that does not know much about lifting and joins PF …they start using the equipment there and here about squats, deadlifts, etc and then go try them at PF and are told that is "forbidden" because only "lunkheads/meatheads" do that …maybe they just assume those moves are only for "bodybuilders" and then never try them again …just throwing that out there …however, I get where you are coming from.

I_Will_End_You · March 2014

I tried to read this thread, but I got intimidated by the length of it and stopped. Can MFP set up a policy that threads can't be more than 5 pages so people who don't read good won't feel bad about themselves?

BinaryPulsar · March 2014

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yes but that is planet fitness's business motto: they also don't let people throw weights or grunt while lifting. its the appeal of the gym to target the other 80% of the population unlike most other gyms who cater to the 20% of the population who are already fitness focused. I just read a whole thing about it and this is what the CEO: says. I personally don't think you should have tits and *kitten* on display in public no matter who you are or what you look like, but that is just me. I never dressed like that before I had kids and don't plan on it once I hit goal :drinker:

The woman in question was wearing crop sweat pants (So about calf length) and a cami that showed her midriff.

That's how you define *kitten* and tits on display? Or is that just some separate rant?

Yeahh. Look at her with her....ankles and shoulders showing THE SHAME! That's harlot! Think of the children!

thank you master snarky: I was actually coming back on here to edit my comment to say that her outfit is cute and I don't see anything wrong with it and she is most definitely not "toned" ... she is thin and you can tell she hasn't had three kids but not toned. and I was referring to those who think its appropriate to wear sports bras and tiny booty shorts only at a gym.. ummm thanks but no thanks for sarcasticly pointing that out. she knew dam well that the outfit she wore was against the policy. that's what she gets for not reading fine print.

I'm sorry you were bringing an unrelated issue into this thread and I commented on it. Next time you go off on a tangent I won't address it and just let you ramble about booty shorts ad sports bras while everyone else is talking camis and sweats. My B. Won't happen again.

And, just so we're clear, how do you know she hasn't had kids? Because she's thin? Because I don't know if you've meet BinaryPulsar but uh...thin don't mean you haven't had kids.

Thanks Achrya!

It's rude how people are picking this lady's body and life apart.

There you are! I read the part about how she clearly didn't have kids and all I could think was "Someone must not know about BinaryPulsar's amazing bod." Or MireyGal. Or any of the other amazing looking mom's floating around here.

But whatever. Let's just nitpick this poor woman instead. Not like she hasn't had a bad enough time. Too toned, not actually toned, just 'thin'. Sheesh.

:flowerforyou:

CorvusCorax77 · March 2014

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The derogatory way some have talked about PF members on here kind of illustrates why some people may feel more comfortable starting out in that environment.

I have no gripe with PF members, unless they share the same mindset as PF marketing.

My issue is entirely with the company itself.

Why the gripe when it's obviously not catered towards you? For example I'm vegetarian so I am not going to go to KFC and tell them I dislike their chicken serving policy. They are not designed for me and my life style choices, I just don't go there.

I'm starting to get the feeling that I'm the only person who joins the gym closest to her current residence who expects to be able to do her exercise routine at her gym she pays for...

CorvusCorax77 · March 2014

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I kind of agree with the gym. I belong to a gym where there is a lot of extremely fit people and it does kind of intimidate you when I see a woman walking around in a sports bra and I've been on the treadmill for ten minutes sweating like a pig. They advertise that they are a gym without "stereotypes" and they have a fan base because of that reason. They have to stick to their advertising or they will be like all the other gyms. I believe it's just from a business standpoint.

A lot of people who are in great shape worked harder to be that way than most people who aren't in shape could ever imagine. They have sacrificed their time, and love of good food, they have poured blood, sweat and tears to become that way. Anybody who would want to suppress a person who has worked that hard needs to reevaluate what they are doing. Instead of looking for new ways to be butt-hurt, people should use it as inspiration..."maybe if I work as hard as that person does, I'll be able to rock a body like that one day"

When you ask these people that work so hard why they do it they'll swear "it's for me, not for anyone else." So why do they feel the need to show off their hard work? If it's just for you why not just do the work and not show off? Or at the very least admit it is about showing off.

I like to look in the mirror at myself as I am lifting in just a bra. It's not for anyone but me.

Judgy much??

I like to cover myself in hot oil and lift naked….

How YOU doing???:glasses:

CorvusCorax77 · March 2014

New NsV goal: get kicked out of PF for being "too toned"

Achrya · March 2014

New NsV goal: get kicked out of PF for being "too toned"

IFKR? I'd pay ten bucks a month for the satisfaction of one day being told I intimidate people with how toned I am.

This chick is living my dream.

arcticfox04 · March 2014

Its planet fitness. Same place that gives out pizza one day a week. Its the judgement zone for those that want to actually workout. Its nothing new at this point. They have cater to a crowd and they make alot of money because of it.

Penfoldsplace · March 2014

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The derogatory way some have talked about PF members on here kind of illustrates why some people may feel more comfortable starting out in that environment.

I have no gripe with PF members, unless they share the same mindset as PF marketing.

My issue is entirely with the company itself.

Why the gripe when it's obviously not catered towards you? For example I'm vegetarian so I am not going to go to KFC and tell them I dislike their chicken serving policy. They are not designed for me and my life style choices, I just don't go there.

I'm starting to get the feeling that I'm the only person who joins the gym closest to her current residence who expects to be able to do her exercise routine at her gym she pays for...

My closest gym isn't great and costs about double what I'm paying for my current gym which takes a bit longer to get to but it's worth it. I put forward some suggestions to the local gym when they had an open day but other than that it's not like they owe me anything. If they are making money then I doubt they will change.

irakrishna1 · March 2014

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I kind of agree with the gym. I belong to a gym where there is a lot of extremely fit people and it does kind of intimidate you when I see a woman walking around in a sports bra and I've been on the treadmill for ten minutes sweating like a pig. They advertise that they are a gym without "stereotypes" and they have a fan base because of that reason. They have to stick to their advertising or they will be like all the other gyms. I believe it's just from a business standpoint.

No, it intimidates YOU...not me. And I'm an overweight woman (granted, a lot less overweight than I used to be:). When I see in-shape ladies at the gym, I think, damn...I want those arms or that booty or whatever. Helps me work harder. In-shape people should not have to choose their work out clothing to help others feel better about themselves. Sheesh, people.

This.

MinMin97 · March 2014

Very newsworthy.

ezloshead · March 2014

Read the last comment in the last few seconds.

Planet Fitness has a dress code.

You don't like it or don't want to abide by it?

Don't join a Planet Fitness.

While I don't agree with the dress code, its not our call to make.

Right, but the employee shouldn't have brought up the shape of her body. That was completely uncalled for. It made it personal instead of just asking her to abide by their rules.

dllewis7 · March 2014

The only thing I've noticed on their dress code is "No Jeans" and "No street shoes". I'm going to look at that more closely tomorrow when I go in!

BECAUSE, gosh, having lost over 30 lbs this past winter, I've started wearing my form fitting yoga tops and pants. God, I feel so much more healthy now and I don't know if I'll ever be able to go back to loose sweats and t-shirts. At 57, of course, I'll never look as hot as most of the gals there but still - no one better tell me to cover it up if I'm wearing exercise clothes. LOL

Can't wait to report on what the dress code really says.

blytheandbonnie · March 2014

So, you have a right to wear what you want and show off your body. But I, who may have a different opinion on modesty, do not have the right to join a fitness club which, I think, reflects my values. You should be able to join said club and violate the agreed upon rules because you want to, and I have no say in the matter. Because I am just jealous of your hot self.
Got it.

jofjltncb6 · March 2014

Why does this thread keep derailing to dress code?

ILiftHeavyAcrylics · March 2014

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The derogatory way some have talked about PF members on here kind of illustrates why some people may feel more comfortable starting out in that environment.

I have no gripe with PF members, unless they share the same mindset as PF marketing.

My issue is entirely with the company itself.

Why the gripe when it's obviously not catered towards you? For example I'm vegetarian so I am not going to go to KFC and tell them I dislike their chicken serving policy. They are not designed for me and my life style choices, I just don't go there.

If they had a whole ad campaign that mocked vegetarians an encouraged meat-eaters to judge and avoid them I'd take issue with that, yes. If they asked people who were eating salads at their location to please have some meat too because their vegetarianism was intimidating the other guests then yes, I'd take issue with that too.

That said, I'm not saying that PF shouldn't be allowed to run their business as they see fit. I'm just saying that I think it's lousy to make money off of the fears/prejudices of their members (yes I know, there are PLENTY of businesses doing the same.) They've taken what could be a good thing (a gym where people could feel comfortable no matter what they look like) and twisted it into "come here and you'll never have to deal with THAT kind of person." What kind? The ones who have already achieved a healthy body. Shock horror. And they're telling everyone that it's okay to judge fit people and assume they're awful just because they're fit. I think that sucks.

FlaxMilk · March 2014

Of course I do. Doesn't everyone?

You really should!

I agree with just about everyone in this thread.

I have no problem with people choosing skimpy gym attire. I'm someone who overheats easily and gets irritated by moving fabric. (I wear baggier clothing to the gym right now, so I'm not feeling defensive here.)

I agree that Planet Fitness needs to drop the "No Judgment Zone" refrain because it's clearly ridiculous and hypocritical. There really isn't any need to tear others down to sell what they're trying to promote. They should just be 1000% upfront: "We are a gym for the out of shape and the beginners. Whether it makes sense to you or not, some people feel insecure and don't go to the gym because of that. We are the gym for those people. When you no longer fit in that group, we will congratulate you and refer you to a gym more suited to your current needs." Or whatever. (The lunk alarm just sounds like an accident waiting to happen. I wouldn't go to PF because of the lunk alarm. The last thing I need is an injury because someone thinks it's funny to ridicule members instead of privately and discretely enforcing the rules.)

I don't think this is a big deal at all. She was offered a shirt and got her money back. There's a dress code. If I complained publicly about every business that said something stupid to me, I'd never have time to do anything else. (I get why people complain about really egregious comments. I just don't think this is one.)

Did PF acknowledge that they actually said that? I wasn't there, so I don't know what was said, and I'm not taking one of their words for the other over this.

Finally, is that top magic? Because it looks like workout gear, but it looks so unsupportive. I want that outfit now, but to lounge around in.

SunofaBeach14 · March 2014

Glad to see this thread is still going. Have they burned the poor ho at the stake yet for exposing her shoulders? I mean, that's clearly what she deserves, right?

FlaxMilk · March 2014

Have they burned the poor ho at the stake yet for exposing her shoulders?

No, I'm waiting for her to give me her outfit.

likitisplit · March 2014

Why does this thread keep derailing to dress code?

Is it supposed to be about your leg?

ILiftHeavyAcrylics · March 2014

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Of course I do. Doesn't everyone?

You really should!

I agree with just about everyone in this thread.

I have no problem with people choosing skimpy gym attire. I'm someone who overheats easily and gets irritated by moving fabric. (I wear baggier clothing to the gym right now, so I'm not feeling defensive here.)

I agree that Planet Fitness needs to drop the "No Judgment Zone" refrain because it's clearly ridiculous and hypocritical. There really isn't any need to tear others down to sell what they're trying to promote. They should just be 1000% upfront: "We are a gym for the out of shape and the beginners. Whether it makes sense to you or not, some people feel insecure and don't go to the gym because of that. We are the gym for those people. When you no longer fit in that group, we will congratulate you and refer you to a gym more suited to your current needs." Or whatever. (The lunk alarm just sounds like an accident waiting to happen. I wouldn't go to PF because of the lunk alarm. The last thing I need is an injury because someone thinks it's funny to ridicule members instead of privately and discretely enforcing the rules.)

I don't think this is a big deal at all. She was offered a shirt and got her money back. There's a dress code. If I complained publicly about every business that said something stupid to me, I'd never have time to do anything else. (I get why people complain about really egregious comments. I just don't think this is one.)

Did PF acknowledge that they actually said that? I wasn't there, so I don't know what was said, and I'm not taking one of their words for the other over this.

Finally, is that top magic? Because it looks like workout gear, but it looks so unsupportive. I want that outfit now, but to lounge around in.

:laugh: :flowerforyou:

ILiftHeavyAcrylics · March 2014

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Why does this thread keep derailing to dress code?

Is it supposed to be about your leg?

All the threads are now about Jof's leg.

likitisplit · March 2014

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Of course I do. Doesn't everyone?

You really should!

I agree with just about everyone in this thread.

I have no problem with people choosing skimpy gym attire. I'm someone who overheats easily and gets irritated by moving fabric. (I wear baggier clothing to the gym right now, so I'm not feeling defensive here.)

I agree that Planet Fitness needs to drop the "No Judgment Zone" refrain because it's clearly ridiculous and hypocritical. There really isn't any need to tear others down to sell what they're trying to promote. They should just be 1000% upfront: "We are a gym for the out of shape and the beginners. Whether it makes sense to you or not, some people feel insecure and don't go to the gym because of that. We are the gym for those people. When you no longer fit in that group, we will congratulate you and refer you to a gym more suited to your current needs." Or whatever. (The lunk alarm just sounds like an accident waiting to happen. I wouldn't go to PF because of the lunk alarm. The last thing I need is an injury because someone thinks it's funny to ridicule members instead of privately and discretely enforcing the rules.)

I don't think this is a big deal at all. She was offered a shirt and got her money back. There's a dress code. If I complained publicly about every business that said something stupid to me, I'd never have time to do anything else. (I get why people complain about really egregious comments. I just don't think this is one.)

Did PF acknowledge that they actually said that? I wasn't there, so I don't know what was said, and I'm not taking one of their words for the other over this.

Finally, is that top magic? Because it looks like workout gear, but it looks so unsupportive. I want that outfit now, but to lounge around in.

They don't really have a dress code. I've linked to a few articles that underline the fact that it's "make it up as you go" and arbitrarily enforced.

FlaxMilk · March 2014

They don't really have a dress code. I've linked to a few articles that underline the fact that it's "make it up as you go" and arbitrarily enforced.

Ok. If she hadn't gotten her money refunded, I'd agree with this being a real problem. (I'd say the same thing if it happened to an overweight person.)

On the other hand, I'm a big fan of boycotting. I'd have no issue with her complaining that the dress code is arbitrary and encouraging a boycott based on that aspect.

DamePiglet · March 2014

I wonder what would have happened if someone wears a t-shirt that says, "Stay off my treadmill or I'll cut a b!tch"
'Cause THAT might be intimidating.

beautifulwarrior18 · March 2014

I have to say, if she violated the dress code she should have been approached. I workout at the Y, they would approach you at the door if you walked through wearing something like that. My guess if that is actually what the staff member said to her was true, that staff member was probably nervous and could use some coaching on what to say in that situation.

likitisplit · March 2014

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They don't really have a dress code. I've linked to a few articles that underline the fact that it's "make it up as you go" and arbitrarily enforced.

Ok. If she hadn't gotten her money refunded, I'd agree with this being a real problem. (I'd say the same thing if it happened to an overweight person.)

On the other hand, I'm a big fan of boycotting. I'd have no issue with her complaining that the dress code is arbitrary and encouraging a boycott based on that aspect.

I think that's what's happening.

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