7 Days Left on Low carb and fading fast
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Not to nitpick - but we need fruits OR vegetables. :-) I'm sure you know this QuietBloom, but I thought I'd add it for clarity's sake for those reading this that aren't aware.Humans are omnivores, not carnivores. We need fruits and vegetables. Your diet is seriously lacking in fiber and you can't be getting all the micronutrients you need.
There is no vitamin or nutrient found in fruit that's not also found in vegetables - but with a lot less calories and sugar overall. For those of us that do need to watch overall caloric, carbohydrate and/or sugar intake, non-starchy vegetables are a superior choice.
That being said I still eat fruit DAILY - albeit small amounts of berries (the lowest-glycemic and highest-fiber fruit available). I like 'em and they thicken my LCHF protein shake.0 -
It's so very sad that a site that is supposed to offer motivation and help is full of so many people that are "my way or the highway".... I have friends doing all kinds of diets.... Low carb, low cal, beach body, HCG, advocare, itworks.... And I never ever ever tell them they are wrong in their choices.
I have more people blocked on here than I do on my friends list!
If you haven't blocked me yet, I would like to re-iterate what I said before about stepping back and reading posts in monotone.
You might find that you will be able to un-block some people and their posts because they aren't necessarily cruel, mean, condescending or judgemental.
Emotions can run high on the forums. Sometimes it takes some effort to see things how people REALLY mean them, instead of how we THINK they mean them.
I agree that passions can get heated on the threads.... Tones can get misjudged and such.
I said on page two that I had (past tense) great success and quit due to financial complications ....
Then later (on around page 5 or so) when I said I had (past tense) great success I was still referring to what I said on page two... So I can see how you might take it where I might have been saying I am successful if you came in on page 5 and didn't see what I posted on page two.....
I am just restarting as of about 3 weeks ago and I am no expert at all... I'm far from maintenance. If I hadn't had to live off of Ramen and my friend making my pity dinner 6 nights a week I would never have stopped.
Been there, done that re: the Ramen.
As much as I respect it, I hope I never have to eat it again. Total burn out. Even now, the thought just makes me unhappy.
I hope your health improves and your success continues.
Thank you. It is helping my PCOS tremendously.
And I don't mean to be so hot tempered but people like the OP give low carb a very bad name and it gets me all fired up
Ramen is cheap
sometimes you've just gotta do what you've gotta do.. But I agree... I'll be just fine if I never have to eat it again.
Just wanted to say I'm glad you have found a way of eating that helps you medically! And I also wanted to say that FlaxMilk is a really swell person, and you might want to rethink your block. :flowerforyou:
Thank you for the message.
That may be so. But every day I hear how I'm wrong about everything that comes out of my mouth when I'm here from one person or another and it gets tiresome.
It was my opinion from what I have personally observed.... I didn't need to be repeatedly told I was wrong when I've experienced it first hand. I was sitting there I know what happened.. So how can I always be wrong?0 -
This is what I ate today
Breakfast
4 frozen sausage patties, stick of pepperjack cheese
Snack
Pork Rinds
Lunch
10 buffalo style chicken wings
Dinner
Ceasar salad half a cup of lettuce. 2 tablespoons of dressing
3 grilled chicken wings
Some shredded roast pork
Grilled chicken thigh
I took two multivitamins in the morning. Feeling good still today. Going to see if I need to up my carbs before bed like I did last night. So far Im feeling good again.
So all your eating it meat?? basically that can't be good0 -
This is what I ate today
Breakfast
4 frozen sausage patties, stick of pepperjack cheese
Snack
Pork Rinds
Lunch
10 buffalo style chicken wings
Dinner
Ceasar salad half a cup of lettuce. 2 tablespoons of dressing
3 grilled chicken wings
Some shredded roast pork
Grilled chicken thigh
I took two multivitamins in the morning. Feeling good still today. Going to see if I need to up my carbs before bed like I did last night. So far Im feeling good again.
At first glance that looks like a lot of calories to me, though it depends on the exact portions. You might try substituting some of that meat with vegetables and only take the recommended dosage of multivitamins. More likely if you need to supplement anything, it's electrolytes which aren't found in large amounts in multivitamins.
EAT MORE VEGETABLES!!!!0 -
On my own study of one I did calorie counting and it didn't work. I know of 4 other people personally who did weight watcher (didn't work).
I have 2 close friends who are low carb and they are both very sporty and have lost and maintained on low carb.
Therefore by your logic - calorie counting must not work!!!!
I don't count calories either i'm just more conscious of what i'm putting in my mouth! counting calories made me crazy and didn't lose weight until I stopped ! but for some they still want to eat doritos and taco Bell for the rest of their life and eat a calorie deficit thinking that that's the healthy way, I said it before I eat to live not live to eat. My life wont suck if I can't eat taco bell every week!0 -
Enjoy gaining all the weight back when you're done "dieting."0
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It's so very sad that a site that is supposed to offer motivation and help is full of so many people that are "my way or the highway".... I have friends doing all kinds of diets.... Low carb, low cal, beach body, HCG, advocare, itworks.... And I never ever ever tell them they are wrong in their choices.
I have more people blocked on here than I do on my friends list!
If you haven't blocked me yet, I would like to re-iterate what I said before about stepping back and reading posts in monotone.
You might find that you will be able to un-block some people and their posts because they aren't necessarily cruel, mean, condescending or judgemental.
Emotions can run high on the forums. Sometimes it takes some effort to see things how people REALLY mean them, instead of how we THINK they mean them.
I agree that passions can get heated on the threads.... Tones can get misjudged and such.
I said on page two that I had (past tense) great success and quit due to financial complications ....
Then later (on around page 5 or so) when I said I had (past tense) great success I was still referring to what I said on page two... So I can see how you might take it where I might have been saying I am successful if you came in on page 5 and didn't see what I posted on page two.....
I am just restarting as of about 3 weeks ago and I am no expert at all... I'm far from maintenance. If I hadn't had to live off of Ramen and my friend making my pity dinner 6 nights a week I would never have stopped.
Been there, done that re: the Ramen.
As much as I respect it, I hope I never have to eat it again. Total burn out. Even now, the thought just makes me unhappy.
I hope your health improves and your success continues.
Thank you. It is helping my PCOS tremendously.
And I don't mean to be so hot tempered but people like the OP give low carb a very bad name and it gets me all fired up
Ramen is cheap sometimes you've just gotta do what you've gotta do.. But I agree... I'll be just fine if I never have to eat it again.
Just wanted to say I'm glad you have found a way of eating that helps you medically! And I also wanted to say that FlaxMilk is a really swell person, and you might want to rethink your block. :flowerforyou:
Thank you for the message.
That may be so. But every day I hear how I'm wrong about everything that comes out of my mouth when I'm here from one person or another and it gets tiresome.
It was my opinion from what I have personally observed.... I didn't need to be repeatedly told I was wrong when I've experienced it first hand. I was sitting there I know what happened.. So how can I always be wrong?
I don't want to negate your feelings, because I understand that you felt piled on and that's unfortunate, really. And I genuinely don't want to come across as pressuring you, because... well, I don't want you to feel pressured!
I do agree with QuietBloom that Flaxmilk seems like a swell and balanced person. I can't say that about every poster I've encountered on these forums. This thread just... well... it just wasn't such a great place.
I also hope that you will re-consider the block.0 -
Enjoy gaining all the weight back when you're done "dieting."
Surely the same goes for everyone? Stop dieting and gain your weight back!0 -
Enjoy gaining all the weight back when you're done "dieting."
Surely the same goes for everyone? Stop dieting and gain your weight back!
Which is why I encourage learning sustainable, practical eating instead of fad diets like low carb.0 -
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Enjoy gaining all the weight back when you're done "dieting."
Surely the same goes for everyone? Stop dieting and gain your weight back!
Which is why I encourage learning sustainable, practical eating instead of fad diets like low carb.
It's been around a lot longer than calorie counting and other such diets - maybe past the fad stage by now?
http://www.diapedia.org/introduction/history-to-1900
http://notchbynotch.com/tag/diet-history/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNYlIcXynwE
http://www.jameslindlibrary.org/illustrating/articles/the-introduction-of-successful-treatment-of-diabetes-mellitus-wi0 -
Nope. I consider it a fad diet. Refer to it however you wish, but I think it's an unsustainable plan intended to be a quick fix. It does not teach you how to eat like a normal person by eating normal common foods, just in moderated ways0
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Nope. I consider it a fad diet. Refer to it however you wish, but I think it's an unsustainable plan intended to be a quick fix. It does not teach you how to eat like a normal person by eating normal common foods, just in moderated ways
What is normal??0 -
Nope. I consider it a fad diet. Refer to it however you wish, but I think it's an unsustainable plan intended to be a quick fix. It does not teach you how to eat like a normal person by eating normal common foods, just in moderated ways
What is normal??
Just curious what your definition is for normal common foods?? because for everyone that might mean something different.0 -
Nope. I consider it a fad diet. Refer to it however you wish, but I think it's an unsustainable plan intended to be a quick fix. It does not teach you how to eat like a normal person by eating normal common foods, just in moderated ways
What is normal??
Just curious what your definition is for normal common foods?? because for everyone that might mean something different.
I agree. What I eat I consider normal.. I don't think I am eating abnormally.... Who is to say pizza and sandwiches and Taco Bell are normal but meat and veggies aren't normal.0 -
Enjoy gaining all the weight back when you're done "dieting."
Surely the same goes for everyone? Stop dieting and gain your weight back!
Which is why I encourage learning sustainable, practical eating instead of fad diets like low carb.
It's been around a lot longer than calorie counting and other such diets - maybe past the fad stage by now?
http://www.diapedia.org/introduction/history-to-1900
" A meat (low carbohydrate) diet was introduced at the start of the nineteenth century, and was followed by many other special diets. Restricted calorie intake may have been the common factor in determining success, but patients tended to rebel against the more demanding regimens. "
C'mon... because they tried it as treatment for diabetes, then tried other things? Not exactly supportive as evidence that the low carb lifestyle was a "thing" back then.0 -
Enjoy gaining all the weight back when you're done "dieting."
Surely the same goes for everyone? Stop dieting and gain your weight back!
I agree...I have already accepted that I will probably always have to track my calories in some shape form or fashion if I want to maintain my weight loss. I will always have to make sure that I am active at a certain level.
I think knowing yourself and accepting certain things about yourself is the key to many of us being able to maintain.
The funny thing is...people that don't limit any certain food group fails at maintaining at a fairly high rate according to statistics. I couldn't do low carb...I tried...I sucked at it!
I have noticed one thing though...I don't crave carbs as much since I have "tried" to keep my sodium at 1500mg. Pasta without salt...IMO...is just not good. That is one thing I have noticed...the carbs that I once enjoyed...all need sodium...at least for me.0 -
Nope. I consider it a fad diet. Refer to it however you wish, but I think it's an unsustainable plan intended to be a quick fix. It does not teach you how to eat like a normal person by eating normal common foods, just in moderated ways
That's it then. It's all been for nothing.
Jonny has spoken and now we must all follow his diet (which actually isn't a diet) its and eating strategy (or something like that), but NOT a diet.
Okay, what shall I have for dinner tonight, cause I've only got low carb stuff in and I don't want to fall off the 'Jonny no diet' eating strategy first day?0 -
Nope. I consider it a fad diet. Refer to it however you wish, but I think it's an unsustainable plan intended to be a quick fix. It does not teach you how to eat like a normal person by eating normal common foods, just in moderated ways
What is normal??
Just curious what your definition is for normal common foods?? because for everyone that might mean something different.
I agree. What I eat I consider normal.. I don't think I am eating abnormally.... Who is to say pizza and sandwiches and Taco Bell are normal but meat and veggies aren't normal.
ALNoog... you have health issues that have modified your eating. You have a new normal. His comments aren't necessarily directed at you, okie doke? Remember... you surely do not eat like the OP and you wouldn't want to. 0 -
Enjoy gaining all the weight back when you're done "dieting."
Surely the same goes for everyone? Stop dieting and gain your weight back!
Which is why I encourage learning sustainable, practical eating instead of fad diets like low carb.
It's been around a lot longer than calorie counting and other such diets - maybe past the fad stage by now?
http://www.diapedia.org/introduction/history-to-1900
" A meat (low carbohydrate) diet was introduced at the start of the nineteenth century, and was followed by many other special diets. Restricted calorie intake may have been the common factor in determining success, but patients tended to rebel against the more demanding regimens. "
C'mon... because they tried it as treatment for diabetes, then tried other things? Not exactly supportive as evidence that the low carb lifestyle was a "thing" back then.
But its not a fad - at worst it's retro. Although retro does make it sound cool.
Low Carb Retro Eating strategy - LCRES (I like it).0 -
Why do low carb? Is that a way you can maintain a lifestyle? Better to find a nutrional lifestyle you can live with and keep going. It becomes your lifestyle and not a diet. Good luck!!0
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Nope. I consider it a fad diet. Refer to it however you wish, but I think it's an unsustainable plan intended to be a quick fix. It does not teach you how to eat like a normal person by eating normal common foods, just in moderated ways
That's it then. It's all been for nothing.
Jonny has spoken and now we must all follow his diet (which actually isn't a diet) its and eating strategy (or something like that), but NOT a diet.
Okay, what shall I have for dinner tonight, cause I've only got low carb stuff in and I don't want to fall off the 'Jonny no diet' eating strategy first day?
Lol ok I know you are being facetious BUT... You should try this chicken I've been making!! We eat it a few times a week.
Take chicken breast and top with fresh basil paste and wrap in bacon and when it's completely cooked top with mozzella until melted!
Even though you weren't actually asking what to cook for dinner 0 -
You should start mentally preparing yourself for weight gain starting in 7 days.
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This!!!0 -
Personally, I wouldn't want to do anything that made me feel lethargic or dizzy. The overall goal here is to get healthier. And there's no way you can stick with this plan for life. Sooner or later, guess what? You're going to need and want carbs because you've been depriving yourself and you haven't learned how to have them in moderation to live out the rest of your days without regaining. I don't know of any person that has remained ultra low carb in maintenance for a few years/kept the weight off.0
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Nope. I consider it a fad diet. Refer to it however you wish, but I think it's an unsustainable plan intended to be a quick fix. It does not teach you how to eat like a normal person by eating normal common foods, just in moderated ways
That's it then. It's all been for nothing.
Jonny has spoken and now we must all follow his diet (which actually isn't a diet) its and eating strategy (or something like that), but NOT a diet.
Okay, what shall I have for dinner tonight, cause I've only got low carb stuff in and I don't want to fall off the 'Jonny no diet' eating strategy first day?
make sure you are eating NORMAL foods , cause you don't want to be a failure if you try to eat healthy all the time, society says Taco bell is normal so that's what you should eat to be successful, oh as long as you count your calories then you are completely not dieting!!0 -
Nope. I consider it a fad diet. Refer to it however you wish, but I think it's an unsustainable plan intended to be a quick fix. It does not teach you how to eat like a normal person by eating normal common foods, just in moderated ways
That's it then. It's all been for nothing.
Jonny has spoken and now we must all follow his diet (which actually isn't a diet) its and eating strategy (or something like that), but NOT a diet.
Okay, what shall I have for dinner tonight, cause I've only got low carb stuff in and I don't want to fall off the 'Jonny no diet' eating strategy first day?
Lol ok I know you are being facetious BUT... You should try this chicken I've been making!! We eat it a few times a week.
Take chicken breast and top with fresh basil pase and wrap in bacon and when it's completely cooked top with mozzella until melted!
Even though you weren't actually asking what to cook for dinner
That does sound nice and if LCRES ever gets the thumbs up from Jonny, I'm going to give a try.0 -
Nope. I consider it a fad diet. Refer to it however you wish, but I think it's an unsustainable plan intended to be a quick fix. It does not teach you how to eat like a normal person by eating normal common foods, just in moderated ways
What is normal??
Just curious what your definition is for normal common foods?? because for everyone that might mean something different.
I agree. What I eat I consider normal.. I don't think I am eating abnormally.... Who is to say pizza and sandwiches and Taco Bell are normal but meat and veggies aren't normal.
ALNoog... you have health issues that have modified your eating. You have a new normal. His comments aren't necessarily directed at you, okie doke? Remember... you surely do not eat like the OP and you wouldn't want to. oh I know it want directed toward me. I was just chiming in on tennisdudes argument
OP is in his own little world. And he just sort of mashed 100 different "diets" together0 -
Nope. I consider it a fad diet. Refer to it however you wish, but I think it's an unsustainable plan intended to be a quick fix. It does not teach you how to eat like a normal person by eating normal common foods, just in moderated ways
That's it then. It's all been for nothing.
Jonny has spoken and now we must all follow his diet (which actually isn't a diet) its and eating strategy (or something like that), but NOT a diet.
Okay, what shall I have for dinner tonight, cause I've only got low carb stuff in and I don't want to fall off the 'Jonny no diet' eating strategy first day?
Lol ok I know you are being facetious BUT... You should try this chicken I've been making!! We eat it a few times a week.
Take chicken breast and top with fresh basil pase and wrap in bacon and when it's completely cooked top with mozzella until melted!
Even though you weren't actually asking what to cook for dinner
Hmm I was gonna have chicken tonight, I'm gonna wrap it in bacon now, Mmmmmm!0 -
You too!!Enjoy gaining all the weight back when you're done "dieting."0 -
Nope. I consider it a fad diet. Refer to it however you wish, but I think it's an unsustainable plan intended to be a quick fix. It does not teach you how to eat like a normal person by eating normal common foods, just in moderated ways
"Normal person"??? I don't know...are any of us normal?
"Normal common foods"...I think they are more dependent upon demographics and change throughout time. Growing up it was normal to eat fried food where I lived. It was normal to add sugar to everything. My mother bought 5-10lbs every time we went grocery shopping. It was not normal for us to eat seafood.
My "normal common foods" have changed...I don't fry...I don't own any sugar...I now eat seafood. I eat things that I didn't even know existed as a child.
One of my favorite things to eat growing up was a wilted salad...hot bacon grease poured over right before it was served. I wouldn't eat it now...well...maybe...but it wouldn't be considered "normal common food" in my house.
Normal people...normal common food...is dependent upon the individual.0
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