Fat Positivity?

I don't agree with bashing people of ANY body type. When you're fat, especially VERY fat, you face loads of discrimination. Those types of problems shouldn't be fixed by losing weight, they should be fixed by changing society so we're not seeing fat people as not being worthy of respect.

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I no longer have respect for obese people. I am not talking the ones in the gym and out walking and eating right and really trying, I LOVE those obese people.

The ones that continue to stuff their face with garbage repulse me because they have lost respect for themselves and that is what makes them gross to me.

I will not accept the fat acceptance movement but I will accept trying to turn yourself around. Once you lose sight of yourself you lose my interest. I don't have time to invest in people who don't invest in themselves.

So, you don't respect people because they don't conform to your standards of self worth. That sounds totally legit.

Yeah, I see a lot of this and it's just backlash. Weight control is a real issue for a lot of people and I would never criticize someone for being overweight, especially if they were making an effort to begin taking better care of themselves and to become more health-conscious. But there are a lot of people out there who would rather find excuses because they either don't believe they can lose weight, or don't want to change a bad habit.

IMO anything that promotes an unhealthy lifestyle is bad. 'Thinspiration' is bad and so is obesity glorification because both of these things are encouraging people to abuse instead of nurture their bodies.

Unhealthy isn't biologically attractive to other people no matter what it looks like. And beyond the superficial aspect, it doesn't feel good.

I think it's so true and so sad what you said - and I believe you hit the nail on the head. I don't know how to bold statements so I'll repeat my belief "THere are a lot of people out there who would rather find excuseses because they either don't believe they can lose weight..."

I firmly believe that a large number of people who are overweight or obese (or even people who want to be more toned, or gain a few pounds, etc) don't try because they don't believe in themselves enough to do it. OR they don't believe they are worth the effort. I only have like 5-10 pounds left to lose and it's at this point that I've started questioning whether or not I'm worth it to put that work in. It's such a mental struggle.

I have an obese friend who doesn't think she can lose weight because she doesn't know anything other than what she's been doing and how she's been eating for years.

Anyone CAN do it but the first step is believing they are worth working for

I don't agree with bashing people of ANY body type. When you're fat, especially VERY fat, you face loads of discrimination. Those types of problems shouldn't be fixed by losing weight, they should be fixed by changing society so we're not seeing fat people as not being worthy of respect.

This.

Double-this.

I no longer have respect for obese people. I am not talking the ones in the gym and out walking and eating right and really trying, I LOVE those obese people.

The ones that continue to stuff their face with garbage repulse me because they have lost respect for themselves and that is what makes them gross to me.

I will not accept the fat acceptance movement but I will accept trying to turn yourself around. Once you lose sight of yourself you lose my interest. I don't have time to invest in people who don't invest in themselves.

Yeah, I see a lot of this and it's just backlash. Weight control is a real issue for a lot of people and I would never criticize someone for being overweight, especially if they were making an effort to begin taking better care of themselves and to become more health-conscious. But there are a lot of people out there who would rather find excuses because they either don't believe they can lose weight, or don't want to change a bad habit.

IMO anything that promotes an unhealthy lifestyle is bad. 'Thinspiration' is bad and so is obesity glorification because both of these things are encouraging people to abuse instead of nurture their bodies.

Unhealthy isn't biologically attractive to other people no matter what it looks like. And beyond the superficial aspect, it doesn't feel good.

I think it's so true and so sad what you said - and I believe you hit the nail on the head. I don't know how to bold statements so I'll repeat my belief "THere are a lot of people out there who would rather find excuseses because they either don't believe they can lose weight..."

I firmly believe that a large number of people who are overweight or obese (or even people who want to be more toned, or gain a few pounds, etc) don't try because they don't believe in themselves enough to do it. OR they don't believe they are worth the effort. I only have like 5-10 pounds left to lose and it's at this point that I've started questioning whether or not I'm worth it to put that work in. It's such a mental struggle.

I have an obese friend who doesn't think she can lose weight because she doesn't know anything other than what she's been doing and how she's been eating for years.

Anyone CAN do it but the first step is believing they are worth working for

I was fat for three years because my metabolism had changed so every time I tried to portion control, I'd undereat and binge. MFP gave me the tools to figure out what "enough" looked like.

It wasn't self control, or willpower, or caring about myself or "really wanting it" and I really don't care who I disgusted when I felt sad and helpless and gave up and ate. Making negative judgements about my weight didn't help either.

When I got the knowledge and tools, I was able to make positive changes. It's that simple. Some people need the extra step of believing that they can, because they've had their credibility trashed by one too many failed diets. How can I judge them for that?

Yeah, I see a lot of this and it's just backlash. Weight control is a real issue for a lot of people and I would never criticize someone for being overweight, especially if they were making an effort to begin taking better care of themselves and to become more health-conscious. But there are a lot of people out there who would rather find excuses because they either don't believe they can lose weight, or don't want to change a bad habit.

IMO anything that promotes an unhealthy lifestyle is bad. 'Thinspiration' is bad and so is obesity glorification because both of these things are encouraging people to abuse instead of nurture their bodies.

Unhealthy isn't biologically attractive to other people no matter what it looks like. And beyond the superficial aspect, it doesn't feel good.

I think it's so true and so sad what you said - and I believe you hit the nail on the head. I don't know how to bold statements so I'll repeat my belief "THere are a lot of people out there who would rather find excuseses because they either don't believe they can lose weight..."

I firmly believe that a large number of people who are overweight or obese (or even people who want to be more toned, or gain a few pounds, etc) don't try because they don't believe in themselves enough to do it. OR they don't believe they are worth the effort. I only have like 5-10 pounds left to lose and it's at this point that I've started questioning whether or not I'm worth it to put that work in. It's such a mental struggle.

I have an obese friend who doesn't think she can lose weight because she doesn't know anything other than what she's been doing and how she's been eating for years.

Anyone CAN do it but the first step is believing they are worth working for

I was fat for three years because my metabolism had changed so every time I tried to portion control, I'd undereat and binge. MFP gave me the tools to figure out what "enough" looked like.

It wasn't self control, or willpower, or caring about myself or "really wanting it" and I really don't care who I disgusted when I felt sad and helpless and gave up and ate. Making negative judgements about my weight didn't help either.

When I got the knowledge and tools, I was able to make positive changes. It's that simple. Some people need the extra step of believing that they can, because they've had their credibility trashed by one too many failed diets. How can I judge them for that?

You also make a very very good point - that many people just don't know how much they should be eating. My husband has single digit body fat percentage and knew close to nothing about calories until he met calorie-obsessed me. He never really needed to lose weight, so it didn't matter to him, but trying to explain calories to him makes me want to scream. A lot. I'm 5'10", 180, and go to the gym 6 days a week. I burn a lot of f'ng calories. Even if I eat 1500 calories a day he thinks I should still eat less to lose weight - doh! it KILLS me!

My point is one that I missed and you threw in there and I appreciate it because it's often forgotten - by myself included. IF people WANT to change. IF people believe they can lose weight or whatever their goal may be, they still need the tools to do it.

However, going back to the very original point - i am so so so so happy that people of any size can love their bodies and I wish I loved mine - I can't pretend to overlook the fact that obesity increases the risk for several diseases so it is not without risk. I know I carry a greater risk myself as I carry fat around my abdomen.

Love yourself at any size, but be aware of any health risks associated with your weight (whether under or over)

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I don't agree with bashing people of ANY body type. When you're fat, especially VERY fat, you face loads of discrimination. Those types of problems shouldn't be fixed by losing weight, they should be fixed by changing society so we're not seeing fat people as not being worthy of respect.

This.

Double-this.

I no longer have respect for obese people. I am not talking the ones in the gym and out walking and eating right and really trying, I LOVE those obese people.

The ones that continue to stuff their face with garbage repulse me because they have lost respect for themselves and that is what makes them gross to me.

I will not accept the fat acceptance movement but I will accept trying to turn yourself around. Once you lose sight of yourself you lose my interest. I don't have time to invest in people who don't invest in themselves.

I no longer have respect for obese people. I am not talking the ones in the gym and out walking and eating right and really trying, I LOVE those obese people.

The ones that continue to stuff their face with garbage repulse me because they have lost respect for themselves and that is what makes them gross to me.

I will not accept the fat acceptance movement but I will accept trying to turn yourself around. Once you lose sight of yourself you lose my interest. I don't have time to invest in people who don't invest in themselves.

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So if you just met me and didn't know I spend 7 hours at the gym weekly and cycle as much as possible you would automatically be repulsed? Seems a bit shallow..

edit cause quotes are all messed up...

I no longer have respect for obese people. I am not talking the ones in the gym and out walking and eating right and really trying, I LOVE those obese people.

The ones that continue to stuff their face with garbage repulse me because they have lost respect for themselves and that is what makes them gross to me.

I will not accept the fat acceptance movement but I will accept trying to turn yourself around. Once you lose sight of yourself you lose my interest. I don't have time to invest in people who don't invest in themselves.

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So if you just met me and didn't know I spend 7 hours at the gym weekly and cycle as much as possible you would automatically be repulsed? Seems a bit shallow..

edit cause quotes are all messed up...

That's exactly what they're saying. Your physical appearance is the only thing that matters to them, because obviously appearance=health and everyone has to adhere strictly to their idea of 'respecting yourself'.

I no longer have respect for obese people. I am not talking the ones in the gym and out walking and eating right and really trying, I LOVE those obese people.

The ones that continue to stuff their face with garbage repulse me because they have lost respect for themselves and that is what makes them gross to me.

I will not accept the fat acceptance movement but I will accept trying to turn yourself around. Once you lose sight of yourself you lose my interest. I don't have time to invest in people who don't invest in themselves.

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So if you just met me and didn't know I spend 7 hours at the gym weekly and cycle as much as possible you would automatically be repulsed? Seems a bit shallow..

edit cause quotes are all messed up...

That's exactly what they're saying. Your physical appearance is the only thing that matters to them, because obviously appearance=health and everyone has to adhere strictly to their idea of 'respecting yourself'.

ok just wanted to check... I thought people like this were just a made up story to scare kids..

I don't agree with bashing people of ANY body type. When you're fat, especially VERY fat, you face loads of discrimination. Those types of problems shouldn't be fixed by losing weight, they should be fixed by changing society so we're not seeing fat people as not being worthy of respect.

This.

Double-this.

I no longer have respect for obese people. I am not talking the ones in the gym and out walking and eating right and really trying, I LOVE those obese people.

The ones that continue to stuff their face with garbage repulse me because they have lost respect for themselves and that is what makes them gross to me.

I will not accept the fat acceptance movement but I will accept trying to turn yourself around. Once you lose sight of yourself you lose my interest. I don't have time to invest in people who don't invest in themselves.

I no longer have respect for obese people. I am not talking the ones in the gym and out walking and eating right and really trying, I LOVE those obese people.

The ones that continue to stuff their face with garbage repulse me because they have lost respect for themselves and that is what makes them gross to me.

I will not accept the fat acceptance movement but I will accept trying to turn yourself around. Once you lose sight of yourself you lose my interest. I don't have time to invest in people who don't invest in themselves.

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So if you just met me and didn't know I spend 7 hours at the gym weekly and cycle as much as possible you would automatically be repulsed? Seems a bit shallow..

edit cause quotes are all messed up...

That's exactly what they're saying. Your physical appearance is the only thing that matters to them, because obviously appearance=health and everyone has to adhere strictly to their idea of 'respecting yourself'.