What YOU should know about GLUTEN SENSITIVITY

Oh I am so in, this is gonna be good.

I'm with you on that one. Hello entertainment for the next day or so!

Bacon. The answer to all of life's problems.

Betcha didn't know lots of bacon has gluten used in preparation...

Betcha I don't care. I LURV gluten!

wtf kinda bacon do you eat? None of the bacon I've ever bought had gluten in it...

"BACKGROUND & AIMS:

Patients with non-celiac gluten sensitivity (NCGS) do not have celiac disease but their symptoms improve when they are placed on gluten-free diets. We investigated the specific effects of gluten after dietary reduction of fermentable, poorly absorbed, short-chain carbohydrates (fermentable, oligo-, di-, monosaccharides, and polyols [FODMAPs]) in subjects believed to have NCGS."

My understanding of this is to test the effects of a low FODMAP diet in subjects believed to be NCGS (non-celiac gluten sensitive). To me, this says nothing of dispelling the idea of NCGS's existence.

...we found no evidence of specific or dose-dependent effects of gluten in patients with NCGS placed diets low in FODMAPs.

I read this as saying that there is no evidence of gluten effects in patients put on a low FODMAP diet.

In all participants, gastrointestinal symptoms consistently and significantly improved during reduced FODMAP intake, but significantly worsened to a similar degree when their diets included gluten or whey protein.

Gluten-specific gastrointestinal effects were not reproduced.

This is confusing to me. On one hand they say gluten increased symptoms, on the other they say they couldn't reproduce effects?

Coincidentally, some of the largest dietary sources of FODMAPs -- specifically bread products -- are removed when adopting a gluten-free diet, which could explain why the millions of people worldwide who swear by gluten-free diets feel better after going gluten-free.

This makes perfect sense to me. Having confirmed IBS, and a low FODMAP diet allegedly reducing IBS symptoms, it makes complete sense that removing gluten and starches from my diet improves my symptoms drastically without having either NCGS nor a wheat allergy.


I'll remain on the fence about this one until more double-blind studies come out; about either NCGS or FODMAPs.

For me, it usually takes 3-4 days of gluten free eating to recover after having eaten gluten.

If I eat starchy/gluten-y foods once a week I never recover fully enough to tolerate large amounts of food. If I really trigger my IBS symptoms it can take at least a week to get under control - a week of very strict liquid dieting. The first time I went gluten/FODMAP-free it took weeks to feel fully normal.

For me, it usually takes 3-4 days of gluten free eating to recover after having eaten gluten.

If I eat starchy/gluten-y foods once a week I never recover fully enough to tolerate large amounts of food. If I really trigger my IBS symptoms it can take at least a week to get under control - a week of very strict liquid dieting. The first time I went gluten/FODMAP-free it took weeks to feel fully normal.

I can certainly believe this. My symptoms are milder than yours and therefore I recover faster.

When I first suspected a food sensitivity, I eliminated all possible trigger foods for 3 weeks before slowly adding them back in one at a time. When I reacted to a food, I eliminated it again and gave myself a week without it before trying to add something new in again. It took a very long time to test everything but it also provided me with very good evidence of what foods bother my digestive system. No, I have not had a biopsy or blood test but I have thoroughly tested myself and I know what I can and cannot comfortably eat. That is good enough for me. Gluten and dairy are my trigger foods. Life is so much more enjoyable when I avoid these why would ever consider going back?

I know I'll probably upset some people ....... Mostly quacks and charlatans and self diagnosers ............. So what!

" It is not known exactly how many people in the UK have a food allergy. Population studies in the UK using conventional testing procedures suggest that between 1 and 2 people in 100 (1-2%) have a food allergy that can be diagnosed reproducibly, whereas as many as 30 in 100 (20-30%) ‘believe’ themselves to be allergic or intolerant to one or more foods."

http://www.nutrition.org.uk/nutritionscience/allergy/what-is-food-allergy-and-intolerance

A lot of people in the Western World are making a lot of money out of a lot of people - at least 1 in 5 of Americans particularly, and it's getting that way here in the UK too unfortunately - nearly 1 in 3!!!

Oh and most people fart at least 18 times a day! And guess what - like crap it smells!

PS - I've had IBS for 30 + years - I went through the merry go round of eliminating this food and that and was thoroughly miserable doing it - turned out I had a serious illness!

Avoid quacks and charlatans and get properly diagnosed

It doesn't exist.

This has been proven by the researchers who originally provided evidence of its existence. Their followup research shows that there is no such thing.

http://www.businessinsider.com/gluten-sensitivity-and-study-replication-2014-5

My Doctors and my body will have to disagree with you and the writer on this one....and I too invite all brave Souls to come our house for the 'fallout' if said gluten is consumed. :explode: :blushing:

First of all, you probably shouldn't say an issue many people are dealing with doesn't exist. You may really upset some people. Also, this article is stupid because it says "science-it works" at the end but nothing in this article cited science. The subjects were "self-identified" as gluten insensitive. Also they cycled through high-gluten, low-gluten, and no-gluten meals blindly and their urine and stools were monitored for 9 days? Any gluten sensitive (professionally diagnosed) or celiac will tell you that 9 days is not long enough to get an accurate result. To have the tolerance testing you have to have had gluten in your diet for several weeks (at least).The urine and stool testing will only show proteins, ketones and malabsorbtion/malnourishment. If someone thinks they have celiac disease or are gluten intolerant they should see their doctor and not rely on a study published on Business Insider.

The first study was published in Gastroenterology.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23648697

Here's the second:

http://ncp.sagepub.com/content/early/2014/04/15/0884533614529163.abstract


Neither was published in Business Insider, that's just where this particular article about those studies was published.

On second thought, "out for time with wife"

I didn't read the link because:

I have proven that there is such a thing. I was sick for 3 years. Serious migraines, IBS, reflux, my knuckles and feet hurt. Sometimes my feet hurt so badly, that I had to wait to walk up my stairs after working a short waitress shift.

The migraines were the worst, as I was unable to function with daily-sometimes 2-3x a day aura's and visual disturbances.

After treating with at least 4 different doctors, and being out on disability, my son suggested I had all the signs of gluten sensitivity. I figured it sure couldn't hurt.

The first thing I noticed after 2 weeks off was that my thumbs didn't hurt, then I realized my feet did not hurt. Both were written off as arthritis or some sort of ritis. This has never come back unless I go into eff it mode and eat gluten.

Then I noticed the IBS and Reflux was getting better-this took much longer to see.

Then the migraines became fewer. I still get them, but not 2-3 a day.

I know it is the gluten, because I have tested it over the past year and 3 months. At the 6 month mark I ate what I wanted and within one day my hands hurt, by the end of the week my migraines were slamming me.

When I accidently ingest a small amount, nothing really happens.

So, I am no scientific experiment or anything BUT no one is going to tell me that I do not feel better, and cut my meds almost completely since stopping Gluten. No one. :drinker:

1. Celiacs =/= gluten sensitivity.
2. Gluten sensitivity =/= gluten allergy or wheat allergy.
3. Yeah, pretty much the latest studies have shown that people are very bad when it comes to self diagnosis, which is the only way to test for 'gluten sensitivity'. Pretty much, if you *think* you have it, you will think you feel better when you don't eat it.

No correlation between gluten intake and symptoms at all.

Nice. What year was that done?

I have found all of these articles that are suddenly coming out very interesting...because about 2 years ago, my (then) 14-year-old daughter started becoming very sick a lot of time time - bloating, diarrhea, vomiting, weight loss, etc. Over the course of those 2 years, we had her tested for everything under the sun - infections, parasites, allergies, etc. and everything came out negative.

I tried to eliminate various things in her diet one by one - processed foods, dairy, high fructose corn syrup - all to no avail - but I did NOT want to eliminate gluten because I knew it would be HARD and I just didn't want to do it.

However, finally, after things escalated to the point where she was down to 96 pounds and I was literally scraping her off the floor every day after she violently threw up and I actually was afraid she would die of malnutrition, we took gluten out of her diet.

And she got better.

I can't believe this is all in her head. But every test says she does not have celiac or an allergy. What gives?

No correlation between gluten intake and symptoms at all.

Nice. What year was that done?

If it's from the study in the article it's from 2013.