OK Ladies...Be HONEST!!

I don't care what you do, just don't interrupt me. Chances are I'm not even paying attention.

Also, what men seem to forget sometimes is that we are at the gym to work without interruptions not there to be stared at all day.

This is true when it's true and false when it's false. I'm guessing the girl at my gym who wears a sports bra and spandex shorts that creep up her crack wants to be noticed just a weeeeeeeee bit more than the girls in baggy shorts and a t-shirt. Also, because the phrase "I just dress this way to be comfortable" is bound to come up I'm going to throw the BS flag already. If I can be comfortable in a tshirt and basketball shorts so can a girl. Tight close are optional and you're wearing them for a reason beyond any sort of function or comfort. It's not even bad that you're showing off but it's silly not to admit it.

I dress this way so I can see myself in the mirror. Not to attract unwanted attention.

I don't care what you do, just don't interrupt me. Chances are I'm not even paying attention.

If all women had the same mentality things would have been so much easier

I'm sorry, but this is completely dependent on the person. Opinions on what's comfortable are not universal.

I don't care what you do, just don't interrupt me. Chances are I'm not even paying attention.

^ This! However, don't stare like a blind man seeing the sun for the first time between women's legs when they are on the hip abductor/adductor machine. That is beyond creepy.

I'm a gentleman. I just snap a quick photo and move on.

I shall leave it at this. I will agree to disagree with some (not all) of what you are saying. Weather you agree or disagree with me is fine and your opinion is valued and heard. I'm just not going to travel the same road you are on. Enjoy your life in any way you choose to live it.

Maybe men should be more discreet like the women.

Thanks.. I do get that. I just wasn't expecting this type of forum.

Dude, you posted a thread asking how much is it ok to ogle women in the gym.

Don't blame this place for the responses you got. Honestly you got off lucky. People were very kind.

I in no way asked for permission to ogle women in the gym. I just asked their feelings. I'm not blaming anyone, I just thought this would be a quick, easy and possibly funny post. Someone got people up in arms and the majority of the dicussion became about rape culture.

The subject was discussed and probably brought light to some. Don't think everyone on here will change the way they think.
But some may think the next time they're in the gym about staring, and lewd comments being made. Don't think that the ones that were brought up in an environment where women are treated this way will change. Even though it got a little heated, it was good that it was brought up. Everyone have a nice day.

As the person who started this post....This is for sure not where I thought this would go. I was not inquiring about rape culture! But I guess in the overly sensitive world in which we now live I should have saw this coming.

Of course not. You most likely don't really know what "rape culture" is. You are assuming it's just people being "overly sensitive". Have you read this yet? Really. Read it. It's written by a man.

https://medium.com/human-parts/a-gentlemens-guide-to-rape-culture-7fc86c50dc4c

Some highlights:

I don’t know about you, but I don’t spend much of my life feeling vulnerable. I’ve come to learn that women spend most of their social lives with ever-present, unavoidable feelings of vulnerability. Stop and think about that. Imagine always feeling like you could be at risk, like you were living with glass skin.

I rarely ever fear for my safety. Many men know exactly what I mean. Most women have no idea what that feels like — to go wherever you want in the world, at any time of day or night, and feel you won’t have a problem. In fact, many women have the exact opposite experience.

A woman must consider where she is going, what time of day it is, what time she will arrive at her destination and what time she will leave her destination, what day of the week is it, if she will be left alone at any point … the considerations go on and on because they are far more numerous than you or I can imagine. Honestly, I can’t conceive of having to think that much about what I need to do to protect myself at any given moment in my life. I relish the freedom of getting up and going, day or night, rain or shine, Westside or downtown. As men we can enjoy this particular extreme luxury of movement and freedom of choice. In order to understand rape culture, remember this is a freedom that at least half the population doesn’t enjoy.

I'll pass on reading it. I have no issues in my life with how I treat women. I have pretty much always been considerate of anyones feelings. ( man or woman) When I started this post .... rape culture had nothing at all to do with it.

It's nice that you have the power to decide when and if rape culture has an impact on what you chose to say and do. I can't tell somebody that I got up early to run without rape culture having an impact on the conversation. And it's not the women who are most likely to bring my safety into question.

There's a word for that gap, you know.

Maybe men should be more discreet like the women.

I think this is basically what most of the women are saying. A glance here and there, a look and a smile, a nod, fine. Five glances, smiles and nods? Creepy. Leering? Extra creepy. Standing by us while we squat and leering and smiling? Bordering on harassment now.

Yes, (some) women look too. Just like (some) men don't.