I refuse to take fitness advice...

LOL. Well I can't tell from your photos how fit you are. But you can tell by mine. So judge for yourself, but people are here on MFP for fitness advice and support. Not for someone with a poor, arrogant, narcissistic attitude to tell them that their way sucks and you are way better than them since you are more fit. If what worked 30 years ago still works for you, great. That isn't the same for everyone. There was no MFP 30 years ago, so did you only sign up so you can post aggressive, unhelpful opinions for people to laugh at? Clearly you don't need MFP to maintain your god-like fitness.

I was going to let this guy slide- but since people want to agree with him:

Where in my OP did I say to someone "Your way sucks and I am better than you since I am more fit?" His ENTIRE paragraph has nothing to do with anything I wrote.

"And people are on MFP for fitness advice and support?" I see a LOT of people berrating others about their fitness and/or nutrition choices- which is exactly what spawned the inspiration for my post. I didn't do or say anything to anyone about their choices. I merely stated my opinion about fad fitness and getting advice from people that don't practice what they preach. MY OPINION. If you don't share it, fine. If you disagree with me, fine. But don't put words in my mouth or attribute things to my post that aren't there.

My question is this then...how can you tell on MFP who is more out of shape than you?

How can you tell who is giving good current advice that has been researched etc?

I mean really...

My advice to people who want to lose weight and tone muscle is as follows "Eat at a deficit to lose fat, do some for of resistence training with adequate protien to retain muscle mass"...

Is that bad advice in your book?

What about people that want to run...my suggestions are take it slow, pick a time period where you run, be it 30sec, 1min etc or a space on the road...then up that time, then when you can run that amount of time (15mins for example) try to get in a certian distance in that time and keep increasing the distance...

Bad advice? I don't run, I won't be running anytime soon...I smoke... does it make the advice any less valid?

It also doesn't make me lazy because I don't practice what I preach as far as running goes either it means I don't want to run because I don't like running.

And I submit this: If 2 personal trainers say: "I can make you fit" and one looks like Jabba the Hutt and the second looks like Henry Cavill- who are you going to hire?

Depends on which one wants me to do squats on a Bosu ball.

And I submit this: If 2 personal trainers say: "I can make you fit" and one looks like Jabba the Hutt and the second looks like Henry Cavill- who are you going to hire?

Depends on which one wants me to do squats on a Bosu ball.

You're so wise.

Read op's first post and thought, "That's a big swing!"

Read each subsequent post by the op and thought, "This kid keeps cracking them out of the park!! This rookie is an up and comer!"

You're gonna go places op. I've got my eye on you!

+1

Agree to a point but it really depends on the context of the discussion and their background.

from people who are more out of shape than me...

In today's; "I read it on the internet so it must be right" trend, everyone is a fitness expert and I get sick of people that don't even work out (or do so once in a while) trying to tell me what's best for my workout or physical appearance.

There is HUGE difference between Coaches and arm-chair fitness experts which is what I was referring to. Besides, most coaches/trainers were at one time, in excellent physical condition. Arnold may be old an flabby now, but there was a time when he put all of us to shame, so of course I would take his advice- because he's been there and done that.

If you actually READ what I wrote rather than key on one sentence- you would see that I qualified my first sentence with the second paragraph.

But, my point remains. If you don't practice what you preach either you don't believe in it enough to put it into practice or you really don't know what you're talking about. The only people that should have been offended by this post were those that are both out of shape and spew unpracticed fitness advice.

Are you familiar with Lyle Mcdonald and would you take his advice on programming or nutrition?

I doubt they are familiar with Lyle's work considering the content/attitude on this thread.

I went to Iron Man in 2009 and these people are the fittest of the fit! They were all shapes and sizes. Small, large, thin, muscular, and chubby. A lot of these people trained for a year before competing. Just because they are not tiny skinny does not mean they are not fit. The outside of the package does not tell the whole story.

Way to lose weight--watch what you eat,control your caloric intake, eat whole, non processed food for health, and exercise. Pretty straight forward. Juicing, cleansing, excluding entire food groups....not so much.

However....I have a fair amount of knowledge when it comes to, say, healthy eating. I could design healthy menus, I could give people really good advice, I could (and have) helped people lose weight. That said, knowledge doesn't mean action. My not doing what I know I should does not negate my knowledge.

So.... if I was a huge fitness/exercise buff, and had a ton of knowledge, but for some reason just quit working out and got soft or fat or out of shape.....it doesn't negate my knowledge and my expertise. it just means I'm not following it. It doesn't mean my knowledge is wrong or that I can't help someone else. To judge someone on their appearance could cause you to lose out on valuable expertise.

I do get what you are saying about fads and people running to them....most of the people who want to lose weight fast and not put in the work tend to gravitate to the "quick fixes" and then because they want validation try and convince others that it is "the way"...and it may be....in the very short term. Quick fixes aren't sustainable in the long run, and people who lose weight on quick fixes only tend to gain it all back plus some.

I think your initial post seemed combative to most...like you wanted to make a point but it came across as picking a fight. What I have learned is that we each need to research things ourselves and do what works for US. If juicing truly works in the long run for someone, great! It doesn't work for me, but I'm not going to tell the person doing it that it doesn't work for them if they are healthy and fit. There are anomalies in life. But I'm not going to jump on the juicing bandwagon.

I wish you well in your fitness/weight loss journey....but remember, its not what you say, its how you say it.

Thank you. I have done p90x before and it was easy for me because I had previously worked out. I haven't worked out in six months. That's the only reason I stated my health, I wanted to help because I know p90x is not easy.