MFP has changed

I am more Machiavellian than 14% of others. I can't figure out if this is a good thing or a bad thing. :frown: On the other hand, no psychopathology, so yay!

Narcissism 15th percentile

Machiavellianism 84th percentile

Psychopathy 26th percentile


I'm not totally sure. But I think this means I'm a jerk.

No, it means you should be a lawyer, trust me on this.

But what if she doesn't want to get fat?

Wut you did there, I see it

Well given my parents as examples, not gonna lie, could be an issue.

I cut my forum teeth on video game forums.

MFP pales in terms of vulgarity, rowdiness, and rudeness. Why no one has told me how they spent last night with my mom even once.

LOL This is kind of what I always think when I see the mean people threads, my introduction to the internet was being a fat white guy posting on a hip-hop message board for almost a decade. This place is Candyland compared to that den of hatred.

I have seen some mean things said to others, I have had mean things said to me here - and to be perfectly honest with myself I have probably said mean things...in a Joanne Moniz thread for example.

That said, I try to stay positive and helpful when I give advice because everyone is at a different spot, and I remember when someone here was a **** to me at the very start of my weight loss, I found it jarring (and this was someone being actually mean, not blunt, not direct - just being an as*hole and trying to score lulz).

On the other side of things - I have made posts where I am very polite, stress I am speaking from my experience, directly link the evidence I feel backs up my claim AND clearly say do what works for you - and have still been called a "hater" and "a-hole". So part of me thinks it is easier to just be blunt.

I think a message board is just like life - you will have people who are jerks, straight forward, polite, stupid, smart, stupid-smart, insensitive, too sensitive, etc... The good news is you can simply use the ignore function to block whoever you don't vibe with. I kind of wish real life had a better ignore function.

In for the inner zen eye ......or something

I have to agree with whomever said the best part of this thread was the dark triad. It's nice to see my evil put into neat little categories.

...:glasses:

I am more Machiavellian than 14% of others. I can't figure out if this is a good thing or a bad thing. :frown: On the other hand, no psychopathology, so yay!

Narcissism 15th percentile

Machiavellianism 84th percentile

Psychopathy 26th percentile


I'm not totally sure. But I think this means I'm a jerk.

No, it means you should be a lawyer, trust me on this.

But what if she doesn't want to get fat?

:drinker:

And no, gifs aren't cute, funny, or leaventing to the person who ted the thread being derailed, especially if they're chosen to humiliate that person. Most of the time they're just, yes, mean.

You mean gifs like a pig slamming her head repeatedly on a table laden with pastries?



This little helpful ditty was the eighth reply left on the Rasperry ketone!! thread started by a mother from the UK who was a newer poster with a bunch of kids who felt confused and unattractive.

Of course some "helpful" links and quotes from New Age speaker Wayne Dyer were also left. After the *pig* GIF. Real nice. Push her down in front of everybody, skin her knee, then offer her a hand up and a Band Aid. Thanks a lot MFP!

For what it's worth, you had the following advice in that same thread:

I don't know what they are but they sound rather tasty.

*shrug*

Here is exactly what I said:

"The best way to get help from MFPers is to open your diary, log everything you eat honestly, and then three months from now ask for feedback if you still haven't lost weight.

Also, and sorry if this sounds mean, make sure your posts are proof read with pretty good spelling and grammar. This lends to the legitimacy of your interest in sincerely asking for help.

I don't think you're illiterate - that's not what I'm saying. Maybe you're just rushing or using an android phone touch screen to type.

Unless it's known exactly what you're eating and how much, no one can really help at this point.

And Raspberry Keytones will probably get you razzed, yes. Aren't they a Dr. Oz thing? I don't know what they are but they sound rather tasty."

So just for clarification what you wrote above is better and more helpful than what I wrote in that thread? I get you don't like Ms. Piggy gif, I can understand that, I thought it was funny, and I get some people won't. You can't make everyone happy.

Be miserable. Or motivate yourself. Whatever has to be done, it's always your choice.
-Wayne Dyer

There are no magic pills. Only hard work and dedication.

It's about moderation not deprivation. There are no good/bad foods, only bad eating habits. Do or do not, there is no try. You have to want it, you have to work for it, you have to realize that only you can do it.

Read these:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here?hl=so+you're+new+here

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/974888-in-place-of-a-road-map-2k13

TL:DR the link right above this one then ->http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/975025-in-place-of-a-road-map-short-n-sweet

Excuses??? http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2014/06/02/the-no-excuses-play-like-a-champion-challenge/

If you have 75+ lbs to lose 2 lbs/week is ideal
If you have 40-75 lbs to lose 1.5 lbs/week is ideal
If you have 25-40 lbs to lose 1 lbs/week is ideal
If you have 15 -25 lbs to lose 0.5 to 1.0 lbs/week is ideal
If you have less than 15 lbs to lose 0.5 lbs/week is ideal

Want to lift heavy things?
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/

Stronglifts Summary
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/560459-stronglifts-5x5-summary

Stronglifts Womens Group
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/4601-stronglifts-5x5-for-women

I know everyone loved the triad thing but I'm going to say this has to be my favourite thing in this entire thread.

Dear Jof,

I wanted to say Thank you and any other person here who has takes the time and has the courage to try to help others here on the forums. It would be VERY true to say I am a lurker, I am pretty shy and it would also be true to say that some of the said bullying type issues that have been raised do make me very nervous to put myself "out there".

I have followed your advice and direction on other threads and it has helped me immensely.

I did end up getting a few individuals come in just for no other reason than to be jerks. When I posed a question in Maintaining Weight about whether Weight set points exist, can change in light of having a chronic illness. One particular sarcastic comment about crosses to bear, eating sticks of butter and No I'll NEVER put on weight, cut deeply. They were NOT anyone I have seen before, one was only 18 years old anyway.... and while it was really upsetting.....I had help from another MFP'er calling them out on their comments. The comments disappeared.....I'm a bit confused about that, maybe the Moderators took them down?

Please, please don't stop posting. People who are new or having struggles sorting the wheat from the chaff will miss out on so much if you get discouraged by these sort of idiotic generalisations.

You, I Lift Heavy Acrylics. Sugary Lynx DavPul, Evingentrix (sp), Quiet Bloom.... there are SO MANY others.....these are just off the top of my head have helped me so much, all the way over the other side of the World....and even tho' my health is at an all time low at moment it would have been worse if I had of stuck with MY original ideas (ie 1200 cal a must, there is 'good food and bad food', cardio is the only way and once upon a time I believed in the alluring promises of the Pills, Shakes, Cleanses etc). YOU and the others gave me pause for thought....made ME ask questions and THINK. That's special, that means alot.

So Thank you once again
Karen XXX


PS: I am going to put this on the thread too. Hope that's OK.

Dear Jof,

I wanted to say Thank you and any other person here who has takes the time and has the courage to try to help others here on the forums. It would be VERY true to say I am a lurker, I am pretty shy and it would also be true to say that some of the said bullying type issues that have been raised do make me very nervous to put myself "out there".

I have followed your advice and direction on other threads and it has helped me immensely.

I did end up getting a few individuals come in just for no other reason than to be jerks. When I posed a question in Maintaining Weight about whether Weight set points exist, can change in light of having a chronic illness. One particular sarcastic comment about crosses to bear, eating sticks of butter and No I'll NEVER put on weight, cut deeply. They were NOT anyone I have seen before, one was only 18 years old anyway.... and while it was really upsetting.....I had help from another MFP'er calling them out on their comments. The comments disappeared.....I'm a bit confused about that, maybe the Moderators took them down?

Please, please don't stop posting. People who are new or having struggles sorting the wheat from the chaff will miss out on so much if you get discouraged by these sort of idiotic generalisations.

You, I Lift Heavy Acrylics. Sugary Lynx DavPul, Evingentrix (sp), Quiet Bloom.... there are SO MANY others.....these are just off the top of my head have helped me so much, all the way over the other side of the World....and even tho' my health is at an all time low at moment it would have been worse if I had of stuck with MY original ideas (ie 1200 cal a must, there is 'good food and bad food', cardio is the only way and once upon a time I believed in the alluring promises of the Pills, Shakes, Cleanses etc). YOU and the others gave me pause for thought....made ME ask questions and THINK. That's special, that means alot.

So Thank you once again
Karen XXX


PS: I am going to put this on the thread too. Hope that's OK.

:blushing:





Nah, just kidding.

I don't blush.

But you're very welcome...

...and thank you for having the courage to share.

:drinker:

Dear Jof,

I wanted to say Thank you and any other person here who has takes the time and has the courage to try to help others here on the forums. It would be VERY true to say I am a lurker, I am pretty shy and it would also be true to say that some of the said bullying type issues that have been raised do make me very nervous to put myself "out there".

I have followed your advice and direction on other threads and it has helped me immensely.

I did end up getting a few individuals come in just for no other reason than to be jerks. When I posed a question in Maintaining Weight about whether Weight set points exist, can change in light of having a chronic illness. One particular sarcastic comment about crosses to bear, eating sticks of butter and No I'll NEVER put on weight, cut deeply. They were NOT anyone I have seen before, one was only 18 years old anyway.... and while it was really upsetting.....I had help from another MFP'er calling them out on their comments. The comments disappeared.....I'm a bit confused about that, maybe the Moderators took them down?

Please, please don't stop posting. People who are new or having struggles sorting the wheat from the chaff will miss out on so much if you get discouraged by these sort of idiotic generalisations.

You, I Lift Heavy Acrylics. Sugary Lynx DavPul, Evingentrix (sp), Quiet Bloom.... there are SO MANY others.....these are just off the top of my head have helped me so much, all the way over the other side of the World....and even tho' my health is at an all time low at moment it would have been worse if I had of stuck with MY original ideas (ie 1200 cal a must, there is 'good food and bad food', cardio is the only way and once upon a time I believed in the alluring promises of the Pills, Shakes, Cleanses etc). YOU and the others gave me pause for thought....made ME ask questions and THINK. That's special, that means alot.

So Thank you once again
Karen XXX


PS: I am going to put this on the thread too. Hope that's OK.

THIS is why Jof is on my FL. And this is why I troll the forums. I find the helpful ones and friend them. I also friend the funny ones but that's for a different post :happy: