Oh Dear MFP suppots Detox and cleanses

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  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    Oh excellent. It's the "part time vegan" moron who deletes any blog comments pointing out her idiocy,

    Time out now.

    I don't *know*, but based on her responses to some comments and the disappearance of others (in an earlier thread weeks), I don't think it's the author doing the nuking. I suspect that's an MFP mod action. I could be wrong, and it isn't like MFP has clarified either way, but I'm 99.44% confident in my assumption.

    Let me rephrase then:
    Oh excellent. It's the "part time vegan" moron whose idiocy is perpetuated by the powers-that-be deleting blog comments pointing out heretofore mentioned idiocy.

    Unless the 0.56% holds true.

    Much better.

    (I just don't want your observation to be easily deflected because of a technicality.)



    (Well, that, and I have a minor in Pedantry.)

    I'm pretty sure that Pedantry is illegal in Georgia

    As it should be.
  • Yagisama
    Yagisama Posts: 592 Member
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    However, pantsonheadry is quite legal, and often encouraged.
  • HerkMeOff
    HerkMeOff Posts: 1,002 Member
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    I personally don't see the big deal about the blog, MFP is a privately run website, they can post what they want.

    MOST of us know better than to listen to what they are saying...

    The worst thing that will happen is someone will try this cleanse, poop their brains out for a week, then post about how it didn't work.

    *shrugs*
  • jmv7117
    jmv7117 Posts: 891 Member
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    I personally don't see the big deal about the blog, MFP is a privately run website, they can post what they want.

    MOST of us know better than to listen to what they are saying...

    The worst thing that will happen is someone will try this cleanse, poop their brains out for a week, then post about how it didn't work.

    *shrugs*

    Except the high amount of parsley in the detox smoothie can cause a lot of negative side effects including spontaneous abortion so there should be a health warning on it.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    I personally don't see the big deal about the blog, MFP is a privately run website, they can post what they want.

    MOST of us know better than to listen to what they are saying...

    The worst thing that will happen is someone will try this cleanse, poop their brains out for a week, then post about how it didn't work.

    *shrugs*

    In that case, why should anyone attempt to counter HCG, MLM supplements, diet pills, cleanses, or any other pitch in the forums?

    Oh yeah, that's right...because actually trying to guide people away from the latest fads into a healthy mindset where they can actually reach and maintain their goals.

    And personally, I find that MFP actively promoting and endorsing this kind of thing insulting...

    ...but maybe that's just me.
  • sunburntgalaxy
    sunburntgalaxy Posts: 455 Member
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    I just told a co-worker I would continue to try to get my daily veggie/fruit needs through actual fruits and veggies after she mentioned her new "green smoothie toxin eliminator drink." She was not impressed.

    Wait, do you work in my office because the girl in the cube in front of me (who claims she went to medical school - yeah, sure) is trying to push the same thing on a co-worker. She loves to push the latest fads and lots of unhealthy ideas. The rest of us just roll our eyes,
  • SunofaBeach14
    SunofaBeach14 Posts: 4,932 Member
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    I personally don't see the big deal about the blog, MFP is a privately run website, they can post what they want.

    MOST of us know better than to listen to what they are saying...

    The worst thing that will happen is someone will try this cleanse, poop their brains out for a week, then post about how it didn't work.

    *shrugs*

    Except the high amount of parsley in the detox smoothie can cause a lot of negative side effects including spontaneous abortion so there should be a health warning on it.

    Parsley is murder
  • Zumaria1
    Zumaria1 Posts: 225 Member
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    Juicing is a very powerful way to increase vitamins, minerals, and fiber to your body in a quick way. You also have to really know what you are doing, as some already mentioned about parsley. Kale when juiced, also should be taken in moderation because it contains huge amounts of vitamin K, which is a natural blood thinner. If someone is about to have surgery or already on blood thinners, they could not juice large amounts of Kale.

    Someone stated that parsley does not remove heavy metals. Actually, studies have been done on cilantro and found that it does indeed remove heavy metals. Here are the links that explain more about it:
    http://phys.org/news/2013-09-cilantro-favorite-salsa-ingredient-purifies.html
    http://www.green-talk.com/cilantro-removes-toxic-heavy-metals-from-water-says-study/
    http://www.worldofchemicals.com/media/academy/cilantro-may-remove-toxic-heavy-metals-from-water-finds-new-study/6381.html
    http://www.healthdiaries.com/eatthis/cilantro-chelation-therapy-heavy-metal-detox.html
    http://www.jashbotanicals.com/articles/cilantro-heavy-metals.html

    One of the studies stated "Cilantro's secret may lie in the structure of the outer walls of the microscopic cells that make up the plant. They have an architecture ideal for sorption of heavy metals. Other plants, including cilantro's cousins, parsley and culantro, have similar features and could potentially work as biosorbents"

    For all the science lovers out there, its really interesting.

    I think some people go to the other extreme and say they can eat what they want because their kidneys and liver will cleanse their bodies. While this is true, we cannot abuse our bodies and think our organs will not suffer the consequences. Alcoholics cause damage to their livers, many developing fatty liver disease, and there is also a form of Non-Alcoholics fatty liver disease, which may may be contributed to through eating excessive amounts of fatty foods.
  • marvybells
    marvybells Posts: 1,984 Member
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    Juicing is a very powerful way to increase vitamins, minerals, and fiber to your body in a quick way. You also have to really know what you are doing, as some already mentioned about parsley. Kale when juiced, also should be taken in moderation because it contains huge amounts of vitamin K, which is a natural blood thinner. If someone is about to have surgery or already on blood thinners, they could not juice large amounts of Kale.

    Someone stated that parsley does not remove heavy metals. Actually, studies have been done on cilantro and found that it does indeed remove heavy metals. Here are the links that explain more about it:
    http://phys.org/news/2013-09-cilantro-favorite-salsa-ingredient-purifies.html
    http://www.green-talk.com/cilantro-removes-toxic-heavy-metals-from-water-says-study/
    http://www.worldofchemicals.com/media/academy/cilantro-may-remove-toxic-heavy-metals-from-water-finds-new-study/6381.html
    http://www.healthdiaries.com/eatthis/cilantro-chelation-therapy-heavy-metal-detox.html
    http://www.jashbotanicals.com/articles/cilantro-heavy-metals.html

    One of the studies stated "Cilantro's secret may lie in the structure of the outer walls of the microscopic cells that make up the plant. They have an architecture ideal for sorption of heavy metals. Other plants, including cilantro's cousins, parsley and culantro, have similar features and could potentially work as biosorbents"

    For all the science lovers out there, its really interesting.

    I think some people go to the other extreme and say they can eat what they want because their kidneys and liver will cleanse their bodies. While this is true, we cannot abuse our bodies and think our organs will not suffer the consequences. Alcoholics cause damage to their livers, many developing fatty liver disease, and there is also a form of Non-Alcoholics fatty liver disease, which may may be contributed to through eating excessive amounts of fatty foods.

    Are you by any chance the owner of "Jash Botanicals"?
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 8,996 Member
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    Her credentials are that she lives in Brooklyn and has a kitchen. A kitchen, people. If there's a mandolin slicer and a sous vide circulator in there they might give her the whole damn site.

    I live in Australia and I have a kitchen ( don't most abodes??)

    Anyway I'm sure this must make me an expert in......


    Well, in something. :wink:
  • dayone987
    dayone987 Posts: 645 Member
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    Juicing is a very powerful way to increase vitamins, minerals, and fiber to your body in a quick way. You also have to really know what you are doing, as some already mentioned about parsley. Kale when juiced, also should be taken in moderation because it contains huge amounts of vitamin K, which is a natural blood thinner. If someone is about to have surgery or already on blood thinners, they could not juice large amounts of Kale.

    Someone stated that parsley does not remove heavy metals. Actually, studies have been done on cilantro and found that it does indeed remove heavy metals. Here are the links that explain more about it:
    http://phys.org/news/2013-09-cilantro-favorite-salsa-ingredient-purifies.html
    http://www.green-talk.com/cilantro-removes-toxic-heavy-metals-from-water-says-study/
    http://www.worldofchemicals.com/media/academy/cilantro-may-remove-toxic-heavy-metals-from-water-finds-new-study/6381.html
    http://www.healthdiaries.com/eatthis/cilantro-chelation-therapy-heavy-metal-detox.html
    http://www.jashbotanicals.com/articles/cilantro-heavy-metals.html

    One of the studies stated "Cilantro's secret may lie in the structure of the outer walls of the microscopic cells that make up the plant. They have an architecture ideal for sorption of heavy metals. Other plants, including cilantro's cousins, parsley and culantro, have similar features and could potentially work as biosorbents"

    For all the science lovers out there, its really interesting.

    I think some people go to the other extreme and say they can eat what they want because their kidneys and liver will cleanse their bodies. While this is true, we cannot abuse our bodies and think our organs will not suffer the consequences. Alcoholics cause damage to their livers, many developing fatty liver disease, and there is also a form of Non-Alcoholics fatty liver disease, which may may be contributed to through eating excessive amounts of fatty foods.

    Are you by any chance the owner of "Jash Botanicals"?

    I hope not. A person selling herbal medicines should know that Vitamin K makes your blood clot more easily; it's not a blood thinner.
  • elyelyse
    elyelyse Posts: 1,454 Member
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    ok, I went to check out the sites and as suspected....no.

    The http://www.healthdiaries.com site also has an article about "7 Foods That Burn Stomach Fat". yeah, no, I don't even need to read the article because that right there makes the entire site unreliable for factual information.

    the http://www.green-talk.com link refers us to an article that states, "Hints that a favorite ingredient in Mexican, Southeast Asian and other spicy cuisine may be an inexpensive new way of purifying drinking water are on the menu today at the 246th National Meeting & Exposition of the American Chemical Society" So...shes reporting about something that hints at maybe possibly doing something beneficial but still requires additional research. nope.

    oh. http://phys.org/news/2013-09-cilantro-favorite-salsa-ingredient-purifies.html is the article the above article refers to. so, nope.

    http://www.jashbotanicals.com/articles/cilantro-heavy-metals.html is selling supplements. nope.

    http://www.worldofchemicals.com/media/academy/cilantro-may-remove-toxic-heavy-metals-from-water-finds-new-study/6381.html says, right there in the URL, removes heavy metals from WATER. I'm not even going to bother reading that one.
    ETA: lol ok I caved and went...its the same information as the phys.org article.

    I think I made my point...but if not: those resources don't count for anything. They either come from unreliable sites, or report about "possible" benefits.
  • Zumaria1
    Zumaria1 Posts: 225 Member
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    Juicing is a very powerful way to increase vitamins, minerals, and fiber to your body in a quick way. You also have to really know what you are doing, as some already mentioned about parsley. Kale when juiced, also should be taken in moderation because it contains huge amounts of vitamin K, which is a natural blood thinner. If someone is about to have surgery or already on blood thinners, they could not juice large amounts of Kale.

    Someone stated that parsley does not remove heavy metals. Actually, studies have been done on cilantro and found that it does indeed remove heavy metals. Here are the links that explain more about it:
    http://phys.org/news/2013-09-cilantro-favorite-salsa-ingredient-purifies.html
    http://www.green-talk.com/cilantro-removes-toxic-heavy-metals-from-water-says-study/
    http://www.worldofchemicals.com/media/academy/cilantro-may-remove-toxic-heavy-metals-from-water-finds-new-study/6381.html
    http://www.healthdiaries.com/eatthis/cilantro-chelation-therapy-heavy-metal-detox.html
    http://www.jashbotanicals.com/articles/cilantro-heavy-metals.html

    One of the studies stated "Cilantro's secret may lie in the structure of the outer walls of the microscopic cells that make up the plant. They have an architecture ideal for sorption of heavy metals. Other plants, including cilantro's cousins, parsley and culantro, have similar features and could potentially work as biosorbents"

    For all the science lovers out there, its really interesting.

    I think some people go to the other extreme and say they can eat what they want because their kidneys and liver will cleanse their bodies. While this is true, we cannot abuse our bodies and think our organs will not suffer the consequences. Alcoholics cause damage to their livers, many developing fatty liver disease, and there is also a form of Non-Alcoholics fatty liver disease, which may may be contributed to through eating excessive amounts of fatty foods.

    Are you by any chance the owner of "Jash Botanicals"?



    Absolutely not.
  • Zumaria1
    Zumaria1 Posts: 225 Member
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    Juicing is a very powerful way to increase vitamins, minerals, and fiber to your body in a quick way. You also have to really know what you are doing, as some already mentioned about parsley. Kale when juiced, also should be taken in moderation because it contains huge amounts of vitamin K, which is a natural blood thinner. If someone is about to have surgery or already on blood thinners, they could not juice large amounts of Kale.

    Someone stated that parsley does not remove heavy metals. Actually, studies have been done on cilantro and found that it does indeed remove heavy metals. Here are the links that explain more about it:
    http://phys.org/news/2013-09-cilantro-favorite-salsa-ingredient-purifies.html
    http://www.green-talk.com/cilantro-removes-toxic-heavy-metals-from-water-says-study/
    http://www.worldofchemicals.com/media/academy/cilantro-may-remove-toxic-heavy-metals-from-water-finds-new-study/6381.html
    http://www.healthdiaries.com/eatthis/cilantro-chelation-therapy-heavy-metal-detox.html
    http://www.jashbotanicals.com/articles/cilantro-heavy-metals.html

    One of the studies stated "Cilantro's secret may lie in the structure of the outer walls of the microscopic cells that make up the plant. They have an architecture ideal for sorption of heavy metals. Other plants, including cilantro's cousins, parsley and culantro, have similar features and could potentially work as biosorbents"

    For all the science lovers out there, its really interesting.

    I think some people go to the other extreme and say they can eat what they want because their kidneys and liver will cleanse their bodies. While this is true, we cannot abuse our bodies and think our organs will not suffer the consequences. Alcoholics cause damage to their livers, many developing fatty liver disease, and there is also a form of Non-Alcoholics fatty liver disease, which may may be contributed to through eating excessive amounts of fatty foods.

    Are you by any chance the owner of "Jash Botanicals"?

    I hope not. A person selling herbal medicines should know that Vitamin K makes your blood clot more easily; it's not a blood thinner.

    Wow. First of all, I don't sell anything, and yes, you are right, vitamin K helps the blood clot, I mistakenly put that it thins the blood, but people on blood thinners need to be careful because it works against the medicine they are on.
  • marvybells
    marvybells Posts: 1,984 Member
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    Juicing is a very powerful way to increase vitamins, minerals, and fiber to your body in a quick way. You also have to really know what you are doing, as some already mentioned about parsley. Kale when juiced, also should be taken in moderation because it contains huge amounts of vitamin K, which is a natural blood thinner. If someone is about to have surgery or already on blood thinners, they could not juice large amounts of Kale.

    Someone stated that parsley does not remove heavy metals. Actually, studies have been done on cilantro and found that it does indeed remove heavy metals. Here are the links that explain more about it:
    http://phys.org/news/2013-09-cilantro-favorite-salsa-ingredient-purifies.html
    http://www.green-talk.com/cilantro-removes-toxic-heavy-metals-from-water-says-study/
    http://www.worldofchemicals.com/media/academy/cilantro-may-remove-toxic-heavy-metals-from-water-finds-new-study/6381.html
    http://www.healthdiaries.com/eatthis/cilantro-chelation-therapy-heavy-metal-detox.html
    http://www.jashbotanicals.com/articles/cilantro-heavy-metals.html

    One of the studies stated "Cilantro's secret may lie in the structure of the outer walls of the microscopic cells that make up the plant. They have an architecture ideal for sorption of heavy metals. Other plants, including cilantro's cousins, parsley and culantro, have similar features and could potentially work as biosorbents"

    For all the science lovers out there, its really interesting.

    I think some people go to the other extreme and say they can eat what they want because their kidneys and liver will cleanse their bodies. While this is true, we cannot abuse our bodies and think our organs will not suffer the consequences. Alcoholics cause damage to their livers, many developing fatty liver disease, and there is also a form of Non-Alcoholics fatty liver disease, which may may be contributed to through eating excessive amounts of fatty foods.

    Are you by any chance the owner of "Jash Botanicals"?



    Absolutely not.

    well by golly, they sure do have a lot of snake oil for sale.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
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    One of the studies stated "Cilantro's secret may lie in the structure of the outer walls of the microscopic cells that make up the plant. They have an architecture ideal for sorption of heavy metals. Other plants, including cilantro's cousins, parsley and culantro, have similar features and could potentially work as biosorbents"
    And if we absorbed those cell walls intact into our bloodstream, that would mean something.
  • Zumaria1
    Zumaria1 Posts: 225 Member
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    ok, I went to check out the sites and as suspected....no.

    The http://www.healthdiaries.com site also has an article about "7 Foods That Burn Stomach Fat". yeah, no, I don't even need to read the article because that right there makes the entire site unreliable for factual information.

    the http://www.green-talk.com link refers us to an article that states, "Hints that a favorite ingredient in Mexican, Southeast Asian and other spicy cuisine may be an inexpensive new way of purifying drinking water are on the menu today at the 246th National Meeting & Exposition of the American Chemical Society" So...shes reporting about something that hints at maybe possibly doing something beneficial but still requires additional research. nope.

    oh. http://phys.org/news/2013-09-cilantro-favorite-salsa-ingredient-purifies.html is the article the above article refers to. so, nope.

    http://www.jashbotanicals.com/articles/cilantro-heavy-metals.html is selling supplements. nope.

    http://www.worldofchemicals.com/media/academy/cilantro-may-remove-toxic-heavy-metals-from-water-finds-new-study/6381.html says, right there in the URL, removes heavy metals from WATER. I'm not even going to bother reading that one.
    ETA: lol ok I caved and went...its the same information as the phys.org article.

    I think I made my point...but if not: those resources don't count for anything. They either come from unreliable sites, or report about "possible" benefits.

    Well, based on the other comments actually thinking I'm trying to sell something, I'm just glad you read the links.
  • Wetcoaster
    Wetcoaster Posts: 1,788 Member
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    Every web site likes more hits.......the same reason the blog is still on is the same reason Joanne whatsherface makes posts about the evils of sugar and is not banned for promoting.

    Hits to the website.
  • HerkMeOff
    HerkMeOff Posts: 1,002 Member
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    Every web site likes more hits.......the same reason the blog is still on is the same reason Joanne whatsherface makes posts about the evils of sugar and is not banned for promoting.

    Hits to the website.

    Exactly
  • _John_
    _John_ Posts: 8,642 Member
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    Every web site likes more hits.......the same reason the blog is still on is the same reason Joanne whatsherface makes posts about the evils of sugar and is not banned for promoting.

    Hits to the website.

    Internet search engines are "gamed" by all sorts of misinformation websites who use tricks to get hits up to get higher up in searches. The "dangers" of cows milk is a favorite of mine in that regard. You can hardly find squat in peer reviewed articles that will litter a google search on the "dangers" of cows milk.

    Especially the laughable "milk causes osteoporosis" claim that is spewed here a lot.