Childhood Obesity= CHILD ABUSE
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Avoiding my question? For someone with so many answers, you certainly don't seem to have any.0
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What I'm reading is a lot of excuses. "My parents weren't educated about nutrition" "Nobody knew any better"......... hmmmmmm with all of the resources available for free on the internet nowadays, although I know back in the day it was much harder to access information.... there really is no excuse other than poverty to not be educated and implementing proper nutrition into a child's lifestyle. I DO agree with other posters that this is not just a parenting problem, this is ALSO a problem with the capitalist system in general. For example:
It is NOT solely the parents fault, however........ the fact that parents on here believe they should have no responsibility and the responsibility should be on the innocent child have flawed logic it seems to me.
I don't think that kids should be put in foster care in the majority of cases IF the parents are willing to educate themselves or become educated.
Since no one has answered my question, I will ask you. In order to make people do something, there must be incentive or repercussions. What do YOU think we should do to hold parents accountable? Because if you can't hold them accountable, there is no deterrent for the behavior, ie speeding tickets deter speeding in some cases. Or at least they are meant to. Posting you poor opinion on a social site will not correct parenting or the government.
Nonetheless this is a free country where I live and I and everyone else on this board is entitled to opinion. If I did nothing today but make someone feel guilty or raise awareness then I have accomplished my job.0 -
Then their kids will remain fat. Taking them away and putting them in the care of random strangers isn't going to solve anything. Foster parents are usually just in it for the money and not the kids' best interest. Also, it would be yet another expense for the taxpayers to deal with.
Something like this makes the most sense. ^How about give them mandatory counseling, don't take the kids away.
And if that doesn't work of the parents make no effort even with the given help to help their child?0 -
What I'm reading is a lot of excuses. "My parents weren't educated about nutrition" "Nobody knew any better"......... hmmmmmm with all of the resources available for free on the internet nowadays, although I know back in the day it was much harder to access information.... there really is no excuse other than poverty to not be educated and implementing proper nutrition into a child's lifestyle. I DO agree with other posters that this is not just a parenting problem, this is ALSO a problem with the capitalist system in general. For example:
It is NOT solely the parents fault, however........ the fact that parents on here believe they should have no responsibility and the responsibility should be on the innocent child have flawed logic it seems to me.
I don't think that kids should be put in foster care in the majority of cases IF the parents are willing to educate themselves or become educated.
Since no one has answered my question, I will ask you. In order to make people do something, there must be incentive or repercussions. What do YOU think we should do to hold parents accountable? Because if you can't hold them accountable, there is no deterrent for the behavior, ie speeding tickets deter speeding in some cases. Or at least they are meant to. Posting you poor opinion on a social site will not correct parenting or the government.
Nonetheless this is a free country where I live and I and everyone else on this board is entitled to opinion. If I did nothing today but make someone feel guilty or raise awareness then I have accomplished my job.
So all you have is a head full of opinions and no ideas or plans. Very wise of you.0 -
Avoiding my question? For someone with so many answers, you certainly don't seem to have any.
It kind of helps if you direct your question with the persons screen name as these posts are passing a mile a minute0 -
How is that a problem with the capitalist system itself? What economic system do you believe is best suited for food production?What I'm reading is a lot of excuses. "My parents weren't educated about nutrition" "Nobody knew any better"......... hmmmmmm with all of the resources available for free on the internet nowadays, although I know back in the day it was much harder to access information.... there really is no excuse other than poverty to not be educated and implementing proper nutrition into a child's lifestyle. I DO agree with other posters that this is not just a parenting problem, this is ALSO a problem with the capitalist system in general. For example:
It is NOT solely the parents fault, however........ the fact that parents on here believe they should have no responsibility and the responsibility should be on the innocent child have flawed logic it seems to me.
I don't think that kids should be put in foster care in the majority of cases IF the parents are willing to educate themselves or become educated.
This is a problem with the capitalist system because companies are willing to serve low quality foods at cheap prices in order to make maximum profit. In the capitalist system, competition and free market economics are the prominent dynamic, thus, the cheaper a company can make a product, without sacrificing quality to the point that no-one would buy it.... the cheaper the company will do it to stay on top. This is why McDonalds has been on top for ages......... yet........ go to McDonalds and try to buy a salad and the price is quite higher than cheeseburger.... Why is this? Probably not just because the ingredients are more expensive, but also because they know they have a large market audience of people looking to get healthy or stay healthy and therefore will sacrifice more money to have fresh healthy food when on the go. Simple supply and demand really.0 -
How is that a problem with the capitalist system itself? What economic system do you believe is best suited for food production?What I'm reading is a lot of excuses. "My parents weren't educated about nutrition" "Nobody knew any better"......... hmmmmmm with all of the resources available for free on the internet nowadays, although I know back in the day it was much harder to access information.... there really is no excuse other than poverty to not be educated and implementing proper nutrition into a child's lifestyle. I DO agree with other posters that this is not just a parenting problem, this is ALSO a problem with the capitalist system in general. For example:
It is NOT solely the parents fault, however........ the fact that parents on here believe they should have no responsibility and the responsibility should be on the innocent child have flawed logic it seems to me.
I don't think that kids should be put in foster care in the majority of cases IF the parents are willing to educate themselves or become educated.
If we lived in a socialist system and had to stand in line for our rations, we wouldn't be obese. So, obviously, that's the right way to go.0 -
What I'm reading is a lot of excuses. "My parents weren't educated about nutrition" "Nobody knew any better"......... hmmmmmm with all of the resources available for free on the internet nowadays, although I know back in the day it was much harder to access information.... there really is no excuse other than poverty to not be educated and implementing proper nutrition into a child's lifestyle. I DO agree with other posters that this is not just a parenting problem, this is ALSO a problem with the capitalist system in general. For example:
It is NOT solely the parents fault, however........ the fact that parents on here believe they should have no responsibility and the responsibility should be on the innocent child have flawed logic it seems to me.
I don't think that kids should be put in foster care in the majority of cases IF the parents are willing to educate themselves or become educated.
Since no one has answered my question, I will ask you. In order to make people do something, there must be incentive or repercussions. What do YOU think we should do to hold parents accountable? Because if you can't hold them accountable, there is no deterrent for the behavior, ie speeding tickets deter speeding in some cases. Or at least they are meant to. Posting you poor opinion on a social site will not correct parenting or the government.
Nonetheless this is a free country where I live and I and everyone else on this board is entitled to opinion. If I did nothing today but make someone feel guilty or raise awareness then I have accomplished my job.
So all you have is a head full of opinions and no ideas or plans. Very wise of you.
I'm beginning to think that you did not read my entire answer to your question/post. Re-read and try again. Thank you.0 -
Yea, attacking the parents isn't the solution.
Our problem is that crap food is the food that keeps the longest and is prepackaged for convenience. Convenience usually wins over healthiest. With two parent working families it gets harder and harder to provide fresh fruit and vegetables or even to prepare meals from scratch rather than a drive through at McD or BK.
Our society is JUST as much to blame because we let capitalism do this to us as much as anything else.
So, I don't buy this one. Why aren't sodas, candies, cakes and other obvious luxury junk foods taxed like cigarettes as a simple example.
There are solutions, but blaming parents isn't it.
I am sorry, but it is the parents fault. Get up 10 minutes earlier in the morning to prep meat and veggies in the crock pot to have supper ready when you get home from work.
I will always blame the parents. They are the ones buying the frozen foods or running their vehicle through the drive through lines at the fast food joint.
Buy the fresh vegetables, fruits, meats, etc................prep them and eat them. If anyone says they don't have time, they obviously have no time management skills.0 -
What I'm reading is a lot of excuses. "My parents weren't educated about nutrition" "Nobody knew any better"......... hmmmmmm with all of the resources available for free on the internet nowadays, although I know back in the day it was much harder to access information.... there really is no excuse other than poverty to not be educated and implementing proper nutrition into a child's lifestyle. I DO agree with other posters that this is not just a parenting problem, this is ALSO a problem with the capitalist system in general. For example:
It is NOT solely the parents fault, however........ the fact that parents on here believe they should have no responsibility and the responsibility should be on the innocent child have flawed logic it seems to me.
I don't think that kids should be put in foster care in the majority of cases IF the parents are willing to educate themselves or become educated.
Since no one has answered my question, I will ask you. In order to make people do something, there must be incentive or repercussions. What do YOU think we should do to hold parents accountable? Because if you can't hold them accountable, there is no deterrent for the behavior, ie speeding tickets deter speeding in some cases. Or at least they are meant to. Posting you poor opinion on a social site will not correct parenting or the government.
Nonetheless this is a free country where I live and I and everyone else on this board is entitled to opinion. If I did nothing today but make someone feel guilty or raise awareness then I have accomplished my job.
Based on my interactions with you, I think you're a bit of a *kitten*. You have very strong opinions about things that you have no life experience in - you're totally unwilling to attempt to see anything from another POV. You like to shame and judge people and when they don't come to heel, you turn around and ask "WWJD".
I hope that growing up (because yesterday you weren't 21) softens you a bit and makes you realize that you don't actually know everything and life is all grays - not black and white.0 -
Then their kids will remain fat. Taking them away and putting them in the care of random strangers isn't going to solve anything. Foster parents are usually just in it for the money and not the kids' best interest. Also, it would be yet another expense for the taxpayers to deal with.
Something like this makes the most sense. ^How about give them mandatory counseling, don't take the kids away.
And if that doesn't work of the parents make no effort even with the given help to help their child?
In the case I cited earlier the child lost 3 stone in foster care. You would have had her left with her family gaining more weight. And heaven forbid your tax dollars go to the care of a child to prevent their early death :noway:0 -
No, companies are willing to sell what people will buy. And, again, no. There is a continuum of quality; it is not binary between acceptable and not.
How is that a problem with the capitalist system itself? What economic system do you believe is best suited for food production?What I'm reading is a lot of excuses. "My parents weren't educated about nutrition" "Nobody knew any better"......... hmmmmmm with all of the resources available for free on the internet nowadays, although I know back in the day it was much harder to access information.... there really is no excuse other than poverty to not be educated and implementing proper nutrition into a child's lifestyle. I DO agree with other posters that this is not just a parenting problem, this is ALSO a problem with the capitalist system in general. For example:
It is NOT solely the parents fault, however........ the fact that parents on here believe they should have no responsibility and the responsibility should be on the innocent child have flawed logic it seems to me.
I don't think that kids should be put in foster care in the majority of cases IF the parents are willing to educate themselves or become educated.
This is a problem with the capitalist system because companies are willing to serve low quality foods at cheap prices in order to make maximum profit. In the capitalist system, competition and free market economics are the prominent dynamic, thus, the cheaper a company can make a product, without sacrificing quality to the point that no-one would buy it.... the cheaper the company will do it to stay on top. This is why McDonalds has been on top for ages......... yet........ go to McDonalds and try to buy a salad and the price is quite higher than cheeseburger.... Why is this? Probably not just because the ingredients are more expensive, but also because they know they have a large market audience of people looking to get healthy or stay healthy and therefore will sacrifice more money to have fresh healthy food when on the go. Simple supply and demand really.
Let's presume everything you wrote is correct. What's a better system than supply and demand and what system provides more food and more options?0 -
How is that a problem with the capitalist system itself? What economic system do you believe is best suited for food production?What I'm reading is a lot of excuses. "My parents weren't educated about nutrition" "Nobody knew any better"......... hmmmmmm with all of the resources available for free on the internet nowadays, although I know back in the day it was much harder to access information.... there really is no excuse other than poverty to not be educated and implementing proper nutrition into a child's lifestyle. I DO agree with other posters that this is not just a parenting problem, this is ALSO a problem with the capitalist system in general. For example:
It is NOT solely the parents fault, however........ the fact that parents on here believe they should have no responsibility and the responsibility should be on the innocent child have flawed logic it seems to me.
I don't think that kids should be put in foster care in the majority of cases IF the parents are willing to educate themselves or become educated.
This is a problem with the capitalist system because companies are willing to serve low quality foods at cheap prices in order to make maximum profit. In the capitalist system, competition and free market economics are the prominent dynamic, thus, the cheaper a company can make a product, without sacrificing quality to the point that no-one would buy it.... the cheaper the company will do it to stay on top. This is why McDonalds has been on top for ages......... yet........ go to McDonalds and try to buy a salad and the price is quite higher than cheeseburger.... Why is this? Probably not just because the ingredients are more expensive, but also because they know they have a large market audience of people looking to get healthy or stay healthy and therefore will sacrifice more money to have fresh healthy food when on the go. Simple supply and demand really.
The price for salad is higher because salad items are fresh (not frozen) and it costs more to maintain the supply chain of non-frozen items. McD's is in business because people buy their food. If people don't want to eat McDs food, then they can exercise some personal responsibility and make a different choice.0 -
What I'm reading is a lot of excuses. "My parents weren't educated about nutrition" "Nobody knew any better"......... hmmmmmm with all of the resources available for free on the internet nowadays, although I know back in the day it was much harder to access information.... there really is no excuse other than poverty to not be educated and implementing proper nutrition into a child's lifestyle. I DO agree with other posters that this is not just a parenting problem, this is ALSO a problem with the capitalist system in general. For example:
It is NOT solely the parents fault, however........ the fact that parents on here believe they should have no responsibility and the responsibility should be on the innocent child have flawed logic it seems to me.
I don't think that kids should be put in foster care in the majority of cases IF the parents are willing to educate themselves or become educated.
Since no one has answered my question, I will ask you. In order to make people do something, there must be incentive or repercussions. What do YOU think we should do to hold parents accountable? Because if you can't hold them accountable, there is no deterrent for the behavior, ie speeding tickets deter speeding in some cases. Or at least they are meant to. Posting you poor opinion on a social site will not correct parenting or the government.
Nonetheless this is a free country where I live and I and everyone else on this board is entitled to opinion. If I did nothing today but make someone feel guilty or raise awareness then I have accomplished my job.
So all you have is a head full of opinions and no ideas or plans. Very wise of you.
I'm beginning to think that you did not read my entire answer to your question/post. Re-read and try again. Thank you.
So nobody who is disagreeing with you read your post?0 -
Yeah she is young and naïve so I can just roll my eyes and walk on by0
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What I'm reading is a lot of excuses. "My parents weren't educated about nutrition" "Nobody knew any better"......... hmmmmmm with all of the resources available for free on the internet nowadays, although I know back in the day it was much harder to access information.... there really is no excuse other than poverty to not be educated and implementing proper nutrition into a child's lifestyle. I DO agree with other posters that this is not just a parenting problem, this is ALSO a problem with the capitalist system in general. For example:
It is NOT solely the parents fault, however........ the fact that parents on here believe they should have no responsibility and the responsibility should be on the innocent child have flawed logic it seems to me.
I don't think that kids should be put in foster care in the majority of cases IF the parents are willing to educate themselves or become educated.
Since no one has answered my question, I will ask you. In order to make people do something, there must be incentive or repercussions. What do YOU think we should do to hold parents accountable? Because if you can't hold them accountable, there is no deterrent for the behavior, ie speeding tickets deter speeding in some cases. Or at least they are meant to. Posting you poor opinion on a social site will not correct parenting or the government.
Nonetheless this is a free country where I live and I and everyone else on this board is entitled to opinion. If I did nothing today but make someone feel guilty or raise awareness then I have accomplished my job.
So all you have is a head full of opinions and no ideas or plans. Very wise of you.
I'm beginning to think that you did not read my entire answer to your question/post. Re-read and try again. Thank you.
No, you didn't. I also asked in another post how you would combat the funding issues, the overcrowding issues within the system, and don't forget, the Constitutional issues.0 -
Yea, attacking the parents isn't the solution.
Our problem is that crap food is the food that keeps the longest and is prepackaged for convenience. Convenience usually wins over healthiest. With two parent working families it gets harder and harder to provide fresh fruit and vegetables or even to prepare meals from scratch rather than a drive through at McD or BK.
Our society is JUST as much to blame because we let capitalism do this to us as much as anything else.
So, I don't buy this one. Why aren't sodas, candies, cakes and other obvious luxury junk foods taxed like cigarettes as a simple example.
There are solutions, but blaming parents isn't it.
I am sorry, but it is the parents fault. Get up 10 minutes earlier in the morning to prep meat and veggies in the crock pot to have supper ready when you get home from work.
I will always blame the parents. They are the ones buying the frozen foods or running their vehicle through the drive through lines at the fast food joint.
Buy the fresh vegetables, fruits, meats, etc................prep them and eat them. If anyone says they don't have time, they obviously have no time management skills.
Per the CDC:
The dietary and physical activity behaviors of children and adolescents are influenced by many sectors of society, including families, communities, schools, child care settings, medical care providers, faith-based institutions, government agencies, the media, and the food and beverage industries and entertainment industries.
Schools play a particularly critical role by establishing a safe and supportive environment with policies and practices that support healthy behaviors. Schools also provide opportunities for students to learn about and practice healthy eating and physical activity behaviors.
http://www.cdc.gov/healthyyouth/obesity/facts.htm
That doesn't absolve parents at all - but hopefully it will make you realize that there are many, many contributing factors that lead to obesity in children.0 -
You don't have kids. You don't know what it's like raising them. Your opinion counts for nothing.
Wow. This right here is why having constructive, adult conversations is impossible on a forum.
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Wait what happened to the cats?0
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