Tips for a ROOKIE REGISTERED for a FULL MARATHON
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This thread makes me sad. If you want something, go get it. Period. Life is a learning process. If you fall on your face, who cares? People are so afraid of failure that they aren't willing to take risks. I commend your couagous decision to venture into the sport of distance running. As you can tell, it's a VERY bold move. I, for one, love you for it.
I started smoking at age 16. Running helped me quit.
I ran my first marathon 13 months ago, I have ran 6 more marathons taking my time from 4:09 down to 3:27.. I've BQed twice. I've also completed an ultra marathon 31.5 miles ~9:10 pace (second female overall).
Lots of people think I'm crazy/don't agree with my training.
People tried to scare me out of running my first marathon too, and I listened. I should have just done it when I wanted to.
You'll be totally fine
+1
I may be on North Pole to Victoria's South Pole but I'm with her on this one.
Alright Victoria!!!
Edit : I have great typing skills. Editing to fix them.
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Yeah shes awesome!This thread makes me sad. If you want something, go get it. Period. Life is a learning process. If you fall on your face, who cares? People are so afraid of failure that they aren't willing to take risks. I commend your couagous decision to venture into the sport of distance running. As you can tell, it's a VERY bold move. I, for one, love you for it.
I started smoking at age 16. Running helped me quit.
I ran my first marathon 13 months ago, I have ran 6 more marathons taking my time from 4:09 down to 3:27.. I've BQed twice. I've also completed an ultra marathon 31.5 miles ~9:10 pace (second female overall).
Lots of people think I'm crazy/don't agree with my training.
People tried to scare me out of running my first marathon too, and I listened. I should have just done it when I wanted to.
You'll be totally fine
+1
I may be on North Pole to Victoria's South Pole but I'm with her one this one.
Alright Victoria!!!0 -
Yeah shes awesome!This thread makes me sad. If you want something, go get it. Period. Life is a learning process. If you fall on your face, who cares? People are so afraid of failure that they aren't willing to take risks. I commend your couagous decision to venture into the sport of distance running. As you can tell, it's a VERY bold move. I, for one, love you for it.
I started smoking at age 16. Running helped me quit.
I ran my first marathon 13 months ago, I have ran 6 more marathons taking my time from 4:09 down to 3:27.. I've BQed twice. I've also completed an ultra marathon 31.5 miles ~9:10 pace (second female overall).
Lots of people think I'm crazy/don't agree with my training.
People tried to scare me out of running my first marathon too, and I listened. I should have just done it when I wanted to.
You'll be totally fine
+1
I may be on North Pole to Victoria's South Pole but I'm with her one this one.
Alright Victoria!!!
As a runner yes. I'll not comment about anything other than her running skills.0 -
I'd say it's possible. It's really, really, really hard, and perhaps inadvisable, but it is possible.
You're going to have to dedicate a of a lot of time to it to be ready in your given time frame. And also accept that as you progress with your training, you are going to be tired. It won't just be time spent running that you have dedicated to this goal, it will be time spent resting. You are also going to have to make the choice between recovering properly between training sessions, and continuing to lose weight. Because they are mutually exclusive*. Also, recognize that you are on a razor's edge between ramping up your training fast enough to be ready, and overdoing it and suffering an overuse injury that puts you out of the running altogether.
I'd recommend buying a bike. A bike? Yes, a bike. Cross-training on a bicycle is the best thing I ever did for my running. You will be able to increase your cardio fitness much faster, without all the extra impact of ramping up your running too quickly.
*Source: I'm in a similar position, getting fit again and decided to set myself a stretching goal of doing my first Olympic triathlon. I had hoped to drop another 5 pounds before race day, but eating at a deficit plus all the training I am doing just weren't compatible. I was exhausted all the time, and it lead to frequent binges when my body just totally overruled me and put me on autopilot to the carbs.
I started training at a much better position than you did - already able to run 10k+, swim a mile and I had lost most of the weight I wanted to. Yet my goal (1.5km swim, 40km cycle, 10k run) is still stretching me to my limits. Admittedly, I'm not happy with just crossing the finish line - I want to do it in under 3 hours.0 -
Eat small but sensible portions before a run, no worse feeling then getting defeated by runners trots
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Very useful tips everyone, thanks!0
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This thread makes me sad. If you want something, go get it. Period. Life is a learning process. If you fall on your face, who cares? People are so afraid of failure that they aren't willing to take risks. I commend your couagous decision to venture into the sport of distance running. As you can tell, it's a VERY bold move. I, for one, love you for it.
I started smoking at age 16. Running helped me quit.
I ran my first marathon 13 months ago, I have ran 6 more marathons taking my time from 4:09 down to 3:27.. I've BQed twice. I've also completed an ultra marathon 31.5 miles ~9:10 pace (second female overall).
Lots of people think I'm crazy/don't agree with my training.
People tried to scare me out of running my first marathon too, and I listened. I should have just done it when I wanted to.
You'll be totally fine
WHEW! For a minute there i was worried that i wasn't going to get an update on your race times but there it was, right there in the second paragraph. thank you for providing that relevant information....
in every thread.
every.
single.
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I'd say it's possible. It's really, really, really hard, and perhaps inadvisable, but it is possible.
You're going to have to dedicate a of a lot of time to it to be ready in your given time frame. And also accept that as you progress with your training, you are going to be tired. It won't just be time spent running that you have dedicated to this goal, it will be time spent resting. You are also going to have to make the choice between recovering properly between training sessions, and continuing to lose weight. Because they are mutually exclusive*. Also, recognize that you are on a razor's edge between ramping up your training fast enough to be ready, and overdoing it and suffering an overuse injury that puts you out of the running altogether.
I'd recommend buying a bike. A bike? Yes, a bike. Cross-training on a bicycle is the best thing I ever did for my running. You will be able to increase your cardio fitness much faster, without all the extra impact of ramping up your running too quickly.
*Source: I'm in a similar position, getting fit again and decided to set myself a stretching goal of doing my first Olympic triathlon. I had hoped to drop another 5 pounds before race day, but eating at a deficit plus all the training I am doing just weren't compatible. I was exhausted all the time, and it lead to frequent binges when my body just totally overruled me and put me on autopilot to the carbs.
I started training at a much better position than you did - already able to run 10k+, swim a mile and I had lost most of the weight I wanted to. Yet my goal (1.5km swim, 40km cycle, 10k run) is still stretching me to my limits. Admittedly, I'm not happy with just crossing the finish line - I want to do it in under 3 hours.
Thank you for the advice. I wish you luck on your goal
. I am ok with whatever time I get. Just dont want to get picked up by the slow wagon. :drinker: 0 -
Eat small but sensible portions before a run, no worse feeling then getting defeated by runners trots
I can imagine, and I do wworry about this. lol0 -
This thread makes me sad. If you want something, go get it. Period. Life is a learning process. If you fall on your face, who cares? People are so afraid of failure that they aren't willing to take risks. I commend your couagous decision to venture into the sport of distance running. As you can tell, it's a VERY bold move. I, for one, love you for it.
I started smoking at age 16. Running helped me quit.
I ran my first marathon 13 months ago, I have ran 6 more marathons taking my time from 4:09 down to 3:27.. I've BQed twice. I've also completed an ultra marathon 31.5 miles ~9:10 pace (second female overall).
Lots of people think I'm crazy/don't agree with my training.
People tried to scare me out of running my first marathon too, and I listened. I should have just done it when I wanted to.
You'll be totally fine
WHEW! For a minute there i was worried that i wasn't going to get an update on your race times but there it was, right there in the second paragraph. thank you for providing that relevant information....
in every thread.
every.
single.
thread.
Man, runner's are a special breed. lol........0 -
Is there another kind of marathon? When you say "marathon" then you mean 26.2 miles. There's a half marathon but if you don't say so then it's assumed you meant 26.2.So yeah. I did it. lol..Im running a FULL marathon MAY 2015.
What's your mileage this month?I cant run. Well maybe for 30 seconds.0 -
ummmm.....whoops?
well.....that's embarrassing0 -
apparently even the randoms have picked up on REA's *kitten* factor. person has less than 300 posts in 3 years but drops the bolded comment at the bottom
Yeah shes awesome!This thread makes me sad. If you want something, go get it. Period. Life is a learning process. If you fall on your face, who cares? People are so afraid of failure that they aren't willing to take risks. I commend your couagous decision to venture into the sport of distance running. As you can tell, it's a VERY bold move. I, for one, love you for it.
I started smoking at age 16. Running helped me quit.
I ran my first marathon 13 months ago, I have ran 6 more marathons taking my time from 4:09 down to 3:27.. I've BQed twice. I've also completed an ultra marathon 31.5 miles ~9:10 pace (second female overall).
Lots of people think I'm crazy/don't agree with my training.
People tried to scare me out of running my first marathon too, and I listened. I should have just done it when I wanted to.
You'll be totally fine
+1
I may be on North Pole to Victoria's South Pole but I'm with her one this one.
Alright Victoria!!!
As a runner yes. I'll not comment about anything other than her running skills.
Really appreciate your average of 1 post an hour the past 28*** months. Good thing you're here keeping the forums in line.0 -
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Eat small but sensible portions before a run, no worse feeling then getting defeated by runners trots
I can imagine, and I do wworry about this. lol
A corollary: do NOTHING different on race day.0 -
Eat small but sensible portions before a run, no worse feeling then getting defeated by runners trots
I can imagine, and I do wworry about this. lol
A corollary: do NOTHING different on race day.
Except the running 26.2 part. That's different and that's okay. Just sayin'.0 -
Someone is playing roulette on the injury table.
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Is there another kind of marathon? When you say "marathon" then you mean 26.2 miles. There's a half marathon but if you don't say so then it's assumed you meant 26.2.So yeah. I did it. lol..Im running a FULL marathon MAY 2015.
What's your mileage this month?I cant run. Well maybe for 30 seconds.
Ok EXCUSE me but im running a FULL marathon. lol....so did that suffice? ..and if according to my post, it is only my second week, and I logged in 14 miles last week. Thanks for commenting *winks*0 -
Someone is playing roulette on the injury table.
Maybe I shouldnt walk across the street, because I may get hit by a car. 0 -
Eat small but sensible portions before a run, no worse feeling then getting defeated by runners trots
I can imagine, and I do wworry about this. lol
A corollary: do NOTHING different on race day.
Except the running 26.2 part. That's different and that's okay. Just sayin'.
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why..what happened?Wait a minute..0 -
Someone is playing roulette on the injury table.
Maybe I shouldnt walk across the street, because I may get hit by a car.
IDK, but I think there's a difference between walking across the street and laying down in the middle of the road and refusing to move if a car comes by. Just saying.0 -
Eat small but sensible portions before a run, no worse feeling then getting defeated by runners trots
I can imagine, and I do wworry about this. lol
A corollary: do NOTHING different on race day.
Except the running 26.2 part. That's different and that's okay. Just sayin'.
Well, yeah. I'm also hoping that she'll find room for a 5k and 10k in there between now and next year. 0 -
You have a lot of time, build up a good base of running. Not so much long distance this far out, but get used to running 3-5 miles 2 or 3 times a week. Because once you get into the heart of a training plan you are going to have to be running a good 20 miles a week probably (at its peak) and that is a lot easier if your body is used to running at least half that.
There are a lot more rules to training for a marathon than I would of thought. I had done more 5ks and 10ks before my marathon (I did do a half or two as well) and made the mistake of thinking all the miles were interchangeable. Running a 10 mile long run and 3 5 mile runs during the week is not the same as running 20 mile long run and one 5 mile run during the week. Try to stick to whatever plan you are following pretty closely since you (like me at the time) likely will not know what you are doing training wise. There is a reason for the distribution of miles and the spacing of rest days, etc.
Figure out what works and doesn't for you far out and then use that to be on your best at rest day. This is flexible. Some people will swear by a certain kind of gear, or food, or supplement, but it is what works for you.
Good thing is you have a lot of time, and it's a great goal. Train smart and you'll accomplish something awesome!0 -
Get professional guidance.
I recommend reading "Marathoning for Mortals" first.
http://www.amazon.com/Marathoning-Mortals-John-Bingham/dp/1579547826/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1403026358&sr=8-3&keywords=marathon+running+for+mortals0 -
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Oh, I'm wanting to "try" this too (I say try because I want to work up to a half marathon in a year).
I am starting with the Iron Girl Couch to 5k program. Then I'll do the 10k one, followed by the half marathon one. After that, it's working on increased long distance speed (not sprinting but just being able to do the same distance in less time).
I'll probably work some HIIT training in there too like hill running.
That's my plan. If you start now and STAY DEDICATED I think you've got a shot! Good luck!
http://library.constantcontact.com/download/get/file/1102880907823-215/Athleta-Iron-Girl-Training-Guide_20120229.pdf0 -
Sorry, forgot to say...
Just remember to average a bit more than a minimum of a 14 minute mile. Otherwise you could get cut off and not be allowed to finish. Check the cut off speed of you local marathon so that you know for sure you can keep going faster than that with running/walking combined.
Also, I know somebody who really likes the apps on their phone that read them their pace every 1/4 mile, 1/2 mile or whenever they want. It helps you know if you're keeping up with your plan for the length of the race. I could see this being useful for you! And I hear you about exercising in the heat... but I just switched from treadmill to outdoors (for the opposite reason since winter continued right into June here) and I can definitely say running outside is more of a workout. My lungs were more stressed than they were on the treadmill. You probably know this too though. You seem like you're putting your research into it and that you have a good training buddy.0 -
Oh, I'm wanting to "try" this too (I say try because I want to work up to a half marathon in a year).
I am starting with the Iron Girl Couch to 5k program. Then I'll do the 10k one, followed by the half marathon one. After that, it's working on increased long distance speed (not sprinting but just being able to do the same distance in less time).
I'll probably work some HIIT training in there too like hill running.
That's my plan. If you start now and STAY DEDICATED I think you've got a shot! Good luck!
A half marathon is totally doable in a year. It's a great challenge - it's hard enough to keep you motivated, but you don't have to dedicate your entire life to it.
Join this group for encouragement and advice: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/30-couch-to-5k-running-program-c25k0 -
You have a lot of time, build up a good base of running. Not so much long distance this far out, but get used to running 3-5 miles 2 or 3 times a week. Because once you get into the heart of a training plan you are going to have to be running a good 20 miles a week probably (at its peak) and that is a lot easier if your body is used to running at least half that.
There are a lot more rules to training for a marathon than I would of thought. I had done more 5ks and 10ks before my marathon (I did do a half or two as well) and made the mistake of thinking all the miles were interchangeable. Running a 10 mile long run and 3 5 mile runs during the week is not the same as running 20 mile long run and one 5 mile run during the week. Try to stick to whatever plan you are following pretty closely since you (like me at the time) likely will not know what you are doing training wise. There is a reason for the distribution of miles and the spacing of rest days, etc.
Figure out what works and doesn't for you far out and then use that to be on your best at rest day. This is flexible. Some people will swear by a certain kind of gear, or food, or supplement, but it is what works for you.
Good thing is you have a lot of time, and it's a great goal. Train smart and you'll accomplish something awesome!
http://davidhays.net/running/buildingbase.html
I thought this was a good intro some of the reasoning that goes into a plan. I wouldn't use it to develop a plan, but I love the way he takes you through the though process and considerations.0
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