People claiming to be full in tiny calorie amounts
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I am a disgusting un womanly pig because clearly I seem to be unable to eat less.
I am one of those, we should form a club.
Eating 1750 cals a day (750 cals deficit) and steadily losing weight at a pace of 1.5 lbs per week.
With all the exercise I get, I'm often between 1900-2100, and I'm perfectly fine with it, because of the previous "steadily losing weight at a pace of 1.5 lbs per week".
I eat a lot of good food (grilled shrimps with veggies! chicken with salad! lean pork chops with sweet potatoes! fish, all kind of fish!), and I throw in some treats (chips, yes please! one piece of chocolate a day! steak, I love my steak! cheese, I can't live without cheese!). I will never eat brown rice and broiled chicken twice a day to lose weight. Never. I kind of feel sorry for people that do this, but maybe they love food less than I'm loving it.0 -
In one case, the person in question is using amphetamines, "phentermine" aka "speed" aka "legal meth" whatever you want to call that(no judgment here). In another the person was more than likely not logging accurately and eating more than they thought.0
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...I am utterly ravenous, obsessed with food until I've eaten at least 1800-2000 calories. I'll feel lightheaded, unable to think properly, tired, demotivated and obsessive.
Hmm, this reads to me like someone who might want to review their relationship with food. Not saying get a shrink, but there's a little funk going on there that needs to be addressed.0 -
Yeah, it's like a badge of honor here... how many calories you CAN eat and still lose weight. It's a little caveman-like-- "Me big, go gym long hours, eat bacon, lift, me macho! You bad who do yoga and eat salad! Bad, lazy, old, little female!" :laugh:And on this site I actually find there's a lot of encouragement to eat a lot of calories. I find myself thinking whether I should put mine up pretty often, and I normally eat at least 1500, just because there's so much advocation of high calories, then I think why change what's been working for me for months.0 -
I think you can train your body to survive on less.....however when I did this it was unpleasant for me and I starte obsessib bout the next meal. Here I am now though, 4'11 and 101lbs and loving every single one of my 2000 kcal diet and still not even putting any weight on, even though I'm just preparing for a bulk.
this^^ although I can't afford eating 2000 a day or I am getting bigger.
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But regardless of the reasons, I agree it's super annoying. The only thing I find more annoying is the "We're all different" crowd. Apparently each of us is a unique snowflake with our very own unique set of laws for thermodynamics, chemistry and biology. Our bodies work in such wildly divergent ways that it's pointless to even look at things like studies, or give advice which has worked for large populations of humans. Because we're all different. What works for you cannot possibly work for me. Harrumph!
QFT. Unless there is a medical issue at play, across the board bodies are bodies.
I guess on this particular subject, I am in the "we are different" crowd. Otherwise, how would you explain those how claim to feel full eating "A LOT" of protein within 1300 calories? I eat a lot of nutrient dense foods, but still can't find "A LOT" of protein within 1300 calories and done for the day...I become to believe I am just a big eater, at least comparing to some on this thread. 0 -
I feel the same way. I think they literally accept the fact that their stomach feels full. Sure, my stomach feels full, but it feels sloshy and my body still knows after digesting that it didn't get as much as it really wants and needs. Full stomach, yet hungry.
this, too0 -
In another the person was more than likely not logging accurately and eating more than they thought.
Agreed. I see this happening a lot on this site.0 -
Losing weight is pretty easy, I've lost and gained more weight than I currently weigh (and I weigh a LOT). It's not deciding one day that it's just too damn hard to live like this that I find hard, thinking to yourself "what good is being thin if the price is to never think about anything but diets and nutrition and exercise and never get to take an interest in other things because all you can focus on is food and avoiding food and how to get rid of the calories it comes with" and deciding your hobbies and your relationships matter more than the numbers on the scale. That's where I've gotten in trouble.
I have this issue too! Right now I'm of the mindset that I'll get the weight off relatively fast (0.5 lb/week since I'm getting closer) and then track, but definitely eat more calories! I suppose I'll see how that turns out for me when I get to that point. I definitely find myself always thinking about it and I do wish I could stop...0 -
First off, don't judge your unique self with what other people are doing. We all are different and exist on and in various conditions.
Secondly, if a "fat" person is saying they are full off of 1200/1000/800 calories diet is either full of you know what or has had lap band surgery or some other medical procedure. And they are gaining weight on top of it?! BULL SHIP! As a matter of fact ANYONE who says they are full off of that type of diet is in need of some serious help. I GUARANTEE THEY ARE NOT HEALTHY, physically nor emotionally.
Thirdly, I will say, and speaking so because I am one, fat people can survive on a very limited caloric intake. The reason why that is possible is because of our fat stores. But that would still give someone hunger pangs and never the disillusion of the feeling of being full.
Lastly, I reiterate, those people saying that are full of BULL SHIP!0 -
But I don't think I am the only person who has come on these forums, read all the posts about how little people are eating and thought, "why can't I eat that little? am I doomed to be a bloated whale for life" or even tried to eat so little only to binge after a couple of months (and for a couple of months) and end up fatter than they were before.
I am fatter than the first time I came to this site precisely because I tried to compete with some of the calorie levels I was seeing and thinking I was being a pig eating more than that because "if they can do it I must be able to". That sets a lot of people up for failure, I can't believe I am the only one...
no, you are not the only one. at least I am here...0 -
Yeah, it's like a badge of honor here... how many calories you CAN eat and still lose weight. It's a little caveman-like-- "Me big, go gym long hours, eat bacon, lift, me macho! You bad who do yoga and eat salad! Bad, lazy, old, little female!" :laugh:And on this site I actually find there's a lot of encouragement to eat a lot of calories. I find myself thinking whether I should put mine up pretty often, and I normally eat at least 1500, just because there's so much advocation of high calories, then I think why change what's been working for me for months.
hey, there are cave women here as well you know!
(and I can quote you peer reviewed journal articles that contain evidence that neanderthals spoke in sentences, so that would be "I'm big and strong, I lift lots of heavy things. We hunt mammoths, carry them back to the cave and share them with the tribe and we all eat lots of meat.")
Also, most of the people here who promote lifting, exercise and eating lots of food are female.0 -
I'll admit I am one of those people who could probably eat 1200 calories a day and feel satisfied. Note the emphasis on could. I ate "clean" for a bit and found myself having to force down that last bit of food to get up to 1500 net calories. Found eating chicken breast and broccoli to a 50/30/20 prot/carb/fat ratio to be extremely filling to the amount of calories.
That said I don't do that anymore because its bad to eat that little and silly to choose a set of foods that has you having to push to get yourself to eat. If you struggle to eat enough, put some more fat or carbs in there and take out some fiber and that will probably fix it for you.
I try to avoid the "if it worked for me it will work for you" type of comments but honestly I think that probably is universal. Less fiber, more fat = more calories, less full.0 -
I try to avoid the "if it worked for me it will work for you" type of comments but honestly I think that probably is universal. Less fiber, more fat = more calories, less full.
An honest question: have you tried eating that way hence conclusion or did you just assume?0 -
I try to avoid the "if it worked for me it will work for you" type of comments but honestly I think that probably is universal. Less fiber, more fat = more calories, less full.
An honest question: have you tried eating that way hence conclusion or did you just assume?
I tried eating that way to start. Had my net goal set at 1500 and ate very little carbs, lots of lean protein with a lot of veg. My fat intake was very low. I struggled to eat even 1500 doing that.
I mean honestly you don't even have to try it to understand that trying to eat a significant amount of calories from vegetables is going to physically fill your stomach. I've never felt "cravings" for food that people describe so that was never a driver for me. If I felt full then eating more was unappealing. Now I DID force myself to eat to reach my goal but after talking more on the forums I decided to up my calorie goal and ease back on the veg and lean protein and diversify a bit more.0 -
Oh, I know there are plenty of each gender who do it. It doesn't change my feelings about it. I'm glad that there is at least a decent groupthink mentality here, if you have to have one-- that of the bodybuilder school of thought. But does it have to be so 'my way or the highway'?Also, most of the people here who promote lifting, exercise and eating lots of food are female.
I mean, go to any diet forum and you see new dieters claiming they fill up too quickly on their new diet. I think the obvious assumption is 'what you pay attention to (finally), changes you', and as the dieters chill out and settle in, they'll go back to being hungry at low intake levels.
But the default assumptions here seem to be that they're lying, they're doing it to annoy people who are past that stage and don't remember it or never experienced it, or they're just idiots for thinking they're full because clearly no human could be full on 800 if we all aren't. :huh:0 -
They are lying. I eat that many calories a day every day and I am hungry and cranky all the time.0
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So because you aren't satisfied on a small amount of food, anyone who claims to be is lying?They are lying. I eat that many calories a day every day and I am hungry and cranky all the time.0 -
When people post things on here saying they only eat 1200/1000/800 etc calories a day and they are soooooo full and they just can't seem to find ways to eat more than that while at the same time claiming to be fat (how did they get fat eating so little?) are they just lying. When I eat 1500 calories a day, even if I eat masses of bulk through non starchy vegetables, I am utterly ravenous, obsessed with food until I've eaten at least 1800-2000 calories. I'll feel lightheaded, unable to think properly, tired, demotivated and obsessive. But there's people claiming to regularly eat way below that and to feel like they've eaten TOO much, while being fat... It's really discouraging, it makes me feel like if I eat a normal day's worth of food (1800 calories to 2000) I am a disgusting un womanly pig because clearly I seem to be unable to eat less. But I kind if suspect it's just one of those internet lies, I think those people are either eating more or are not fat and have not been fat recently.
I have always ate like a bird. So far today, I have had a yogurt with fresh strawberries and blueberries for breakfast. Lunch was 3oz of baby carrots and a wrap with ham, cheese, mixed greens and mustard. I have also had 6 glasses of water. Roughly 550 calories and I am stuffed.
My pm snack is grapes and blueberries, weighed to be another 100 calories. It is doubtful my dinner will be more than 400-450 calories. I am not hungry at all if I get protein.0 -
They are lying. I eat that many calories a day every day and I am hungry and cranky all the time.
What have we got to gain from lying???0 -
My main hypocritical question is the weight loss tickers vs join date. If you can't eat more than 1200 calories but joined three years ago, by now you've lost all your weight, right? Hypocritical because in my case my join date is not when I started logging. I'm not even sure I know what MFP was really for until a bit over a year ago. But if that's not other people's reason, then I confuse :ohwell:0
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I just don't buy into the idea that people are perfectly happy eating only the "healthiest" stuff that amounts to less than 1500kcal a day.
If I only have super-healthy vegetables, super-healthy fruits, super-healthy chicken/vegetarian equivalent for two days, I just want to go outside set everything on fire that looks healthy or is green . Then I will see reason and have stuff like Greek Yoghurt, eggs, toast, salami and real dinner.0 -
Yeah, it's like a badge of honor here... how many calories you CAN eat and still lose weight. It's a little caveman-like-- "Me big, go gym long hours, eat bacon, lift, me macho! You bad who do yoga and eat salad! Bad, lazy, old, little female!" :laugh:And on this site I actually find there's a lot of encouragement to eat a lot of calories. I find myself thinking whether I should put mine up pretty often, and I normally eat at least 1500, just because there's so much advocation of high calories, then I think why change what's been working for me for months.
Omg! This made my morning lol0 -
Yeah, it's like a badge of honor here... how many calories you CAN eat and still lose weight. It's a little caveman-like-- "Me big, go gym long hours, eat bacon, lift, me macho! You bad who do yoga and eat salad! Bad, lazy, old, little female!" :laugh:And on this site I actually find there's a lot of encouragement to eat a lot of calories. I find myself thinking whether I should put mine up pretty often, and I normally eat at least 1500, just because there's so much advocation of high calories, then I think why change what's been working for me for months.
Omg! This made my morning lol
If you guys seriously consider 1500 calories to be "high" I think you have a very skewed idea about how much energy your body requires and what a calorie is.
People get overweight when they don't pay attention to their calories, in otherwords they don't realize how much they are eating. To get fat most people have to eat something like 3000 calories with a fair amount of frequency and most people can lose weight eating 2000 calories as a result (slowly lose weight). You can try to lose more weight by going lower sure but to those who go to 1200 you are honestly causing yourself more harm than good.
People telling you this aren't being macho they are telling you the truth.0 -
1 - they're full of ****
2- they don't understand proper nutrition so they think they have to entire give up calorie dense foods and eat nothing but veggies and whatnot...which won't have many calories and won't provide much in the way of energy, but are going to be high volume and probably leave them feeling a bit bloated and otherwise full.
3 - they have a ****ty relationship with food in general and dietary fat in particular...they think fat is "bad" and do not understand that dietary fat is essential to proper nutrition.
4 - they buy into this whole clean eating concept which they don't really fully understand because they don't actually understand much about actual nutrition which leads to issues 2 & 3.
5 - they have other deep seeded emotional and psychological issues0 -
So when my stomach says, "I'm not hungry anymore," it's because of one of those five reasons and it can't possibly be because I just simply have a small appetite?1 - they're full of ****
2- they don't understand proper nutrition so they think they have to entire give up calorie dense foods and eat nothing but veggies and whatnot...which won't have many calories and won't provide much in the way of energy, but are going to be high volume and probably leave them feeling a bit bloated and otherwise full.
3 - they have a ****ty relationship with food in general and dietary fat in particular...they think fat is "bad" and do not understand that dietary fat is essential to proper nutrition.
4 - they buy into this whole clean eating concept which they don't really fully understand because they don't actually understand much about actual nutrition which leads to issues 2 & 3.
5 - they have other deep seeded emotional and psychological issues0 -
I've found I can get full on about 500 calories (not 'stuffed', mind you). One example would be a big bowl of cereal, a pear, and an apple. Full. I try to keep my meals between 500-800 calories max on average, when at a deficit.
Compare that to fast food where I can easily eat 1500 calories and be hungry again shortly thereafter. I'm guessing it's the high sugar / low fiber combination that has no staying power to keep me full.0 -
Everyone is different and has different eating habits developed over time. I did not get fat from over-eating, I gained a lot of weight in my early teens from an illness and never lost it. My eating habits have been highly unhealthy my whole life, both of my parents worked so they didn't cook-we ate fast food, take-out, sandwiches, etc. everyday. I also usually ate 1 or 2 big meals each day. That combined with my low activity levels and severe insomnia led to my current weight. I am trying to eat 1200 calories a day and then raise it as I progress. I am now eating smaller meals throughout the day and drinking tons of water so I don't end up hungry at the end of the day. It's something that takes getting used to and is a complete lifestyle change so I can understand some people finding it difficult to consume 2000+ calories early on in their weight loss journey.
I'm not trying to severely pick at you or anything, but you claim you didn't get fat from over-eating, you got fat from illness. Then you say your eating habits have been unhealthy your whole life because you ate fast food, take out, etc.
How else do you think you gained the fat? i'm not really picking up what you're trying to say here.
I wasn't overweight until my I got sick and unhealthy eating combined with progressively lessening activity caused me to maintain that weight .0 -
I bet they have room for a wafer thin mint... just a tiny little thin one.
Nicely done, sir...0 -
If I eat 800 calories and feel full, it probably was after a 2000 calorie day eating half a watermelon, 2 salads, a huge stir fry and other misc. items that are low calorie but huge volume0
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