Chivalry is dead?

I love when others have manners, I hold doors for people all the time and always use excuse me, please, and thank you.

As far as chivalry, I love when a man is a gentlemen and never assume it's a sexual advance or that he is somehow implying I am too weak. My husband always pumps my gas, holds doors, orders my drinks from the bar and a million other small things to show respect. He even carries any bags or the heaviest, even though he lifts with me and knows damn well how much I can lift.

I teach my daughters manners and my husband shows them how a man behaves with women. My husband also does these things for any woman in his presence, he respects woman and doesn't have any sexist attitudes and is actually very liberal.

I take insult with ultra feminists that view men's actions by the knights code and only see the part of helping the weak. Just because a man shows chivalry does not mean he views you as weak. My husband holds doors for guys also...so :drinker:

It's dead for sure. It died with the hippies who gave rise to our generation, i'm not ashamed to admit that we gen xers are bad at parenting, and it's kept going downhill. It's just a sign of the overall decline of American society and civility. People have become so used to being handfed that they want someone to raise their kids for them, to tell them how, to tell them what to eat and when. It's all a product of social engineering started by the babyboomer hippies who now run things. My parents taught me to open doors for women, how to behave in public and everything their parents (strict old school parents) taught them.

The notion of chivalry annoys me. It favours men helping women. Really, we need to move past that and think how can we help one another, regardless of sex or limited abilities. Because I am a man, am I not deserving to have a door held for me, especially when It arms are full. I suspect people would be willing to run and rep a woman struggling with something heavy, but more releuctant to help a male in the same situation.

It's dead for sure. It died with the hippies who gave rise to our generation, i'm not ashamed to admit that we gen xers are bad at parenting, and it's kept going downhill. It's just a sign of the overall decline of American society and civility. People have become so used to being handfed that they want someone to raise their kids for them, to tell them how, to tell them what to eat and when. It's all a product of social engineering started by the babyboomer hippies who now run things. My parents taught me to open doors for women, how to behave in public and everything their parents (strict old school parents) taught them.

I am one of those hippies that gave rise to your generation.

Kindness, civility, and politeness aren't dead. Neither is initiative, self-reliance, community, and service. I meet people every day, from every generation, that demonstrate all of them. But people like this certainly seem harder to find in places like the interweb , media outlets and the like, probably because they are places where being not being kind and so on is rewarded with attention, money, and fame.

May I suggest then that you are over-generalizing and you might find it useful to get out more and meet a wider range of people than perhaps you have?

And that said, all of these qualities start with individual people making the decision that these qualities matter. If you want civil society, begin by being civil. If you want self-reliance and politeness, demonstrate it. If you want kindness, manifest it. That's how "society" changes, one person at at time.

It's dead for sure. It died with the hippies who gave rise to our generation, i'm not ashamed to admit that we gen xers are bad at parenting, and it's kept going downhill. It's just a sign of the overall decline of American society and civility. People have become so used to being handfed that they want someone to raise their kids for them, to tell them how, to tell them what to eat and when. It's all a product of social engineering started by the babyboomer hippies who now run things. My parents taught me to open doors for women, how to behave in public and everything their parents (strict old school parents) taught them.

I'm an English gentleman so if I'm walking with a female down a pavement I'll stand on the side closest to the road so that a horse drawn carriage (or a car) doesn't splash her with a puddle. In a restaurant I'll let the lady have the seat next to the wall so she can view the room (be nosey) and all my attention will be focused on just her.

I understand that some women feel undermined by chivalrous acts but I'll hold a door open for anyone, regardless of age or gender. I even once held a door open for a hedgehog.

I do wonder what these women would do if they were on the Titanic and the captain shouted 'women and children first'. Would she say 'don't you bloody patronise me!' or would she get the hell out of there I ask myself.