Quality of food or quantity, which is more important to you?

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  • 59gi
    59gi Posts: 307 Member
    If you are going to discuss this issue then, do your homework.
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    If you are going to discuss this issue then, do your homework.

    I can see from the information you provided you have done yours. :indifferent:
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    Both are important but if I had no choice but to choose one, I would say quantity, because too much of anything can be bad...
  • 59gi
    59gi Posts: 307 Member
    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet

    Sources?

    Sources? Didnt you see all the exclamation marks? That is all the information you need to know just how dangerous sugar is.


    When you are high on sugar, denial is what keeps you from the truth. A high sugar diet causes Diabetes, Heart Disease, Cancer etc. etc. etc. Cancer is fed by sugar. Do your homework, my friend. Then if you are going to mock......it's your problem not mine.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    Keep denying the truth, the nay Sayers, will find out the hard way. Sugar is poison in excess!!!!!!!

    Define excess...
  • 59gi
    59gi Posts: 307 Member
    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet

    LOLwhat?
    :huh:

    Okay, I guess I'm in now...

    .

    ...while enjoying some cheap pizza for dinner.


    It is no laughing matter, high level of blood sugar is associated with many diseases
  • 59gi
    59gi Posts: 307 Member
    I ask because I see in a lot of diaries things like a breakfast of real junk food and at the end of the day the calorie intake is right but the food quality is soooo wrong. Not that I'm judging, to each his own and I've seen some great weight losses with this method.

    Do you count every calorie and weigh you food? Do you plan out your meals the day before? I do count my calories but have never weighed my food, can't imagine it. Do you think it's important to do that and if so, why isn't counting calories enough? One thing I do religiously is plan my meals a day ahead. That way I'm not starring in the fridge or cupboard trying to figure out what to eat.

    I will choose quality over quantity of food any day! While I was actively losing weight, I did count calories and weighed some but not all foods for a short period of time. I think weighing food was not important for me but for those not losing weight when they are logging at a deficit, then I think it is a useful tool. I honestly don't think counting calories is enough for several reasons but for many underestimating the calories consumed is a problem. I personally don't plan my meals ahead but I can see where it would work for some.

    Quality of food is important to stay healthy. You are wise to choose quality.
  • 59gi
    59gi Posts: 307 Member
    If you are going to discuss this issue then, do your homework.

    I can see from the information you provided you have done yours. :indifferent:


    Yes I have !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • tedrickp
    tedrickp Posts: 1,229 Member

    Also, chemicals. Lots and lots of chemicals. And therein lies the problem.

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    Oh no! Not chemicals!
  • pamelas9
    pamelas9 Posts: 29
    I am morbidly obese and quantity is the most important to me. I overeat (my portions were too large) and I had a binge about every 10 days (not tv worthy binging, but you know, a whole bag of candy type thing). Logging, even if I'm not weighing keeps me accountable.

    I started just by cutting down the bad stuff. People who are much smaller than me still cringe at my diary. The thing is, after a week or so of the small portions of bad stuff you get hungry. REALLY hungry. Then you have to start the shifting. You have to add in veggies, you have to lower the carbs and dressings and sauces, because if you don't you feel like you are starving because there simply isn't enough nutrition in the bad stuff to keep you going.

    I recently made enchiladas. As I entered all the various ingredients one really surprised me. One tortilla was 250 cal. If I hadn't been logging I would have never, ever guessed it to be so high. So next time I buy tortillas, I will be label reading. I'm sure there is a better brand or option, I just didn't know that was a problem ingredient.

    Quantity first, but when you are really hungry you will either give up or make different choices.
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
    In, for sugar toxins and food-cancer shaming
  • jasonmh630
    jasonmh630 Posts: 2,850 Member
    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet

    #1 -- Cancer is not fed by excessive sugar:

    http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714?pg=2

    #2 -- Heart Disease is also NOT caused by excessive sugar:

    http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-disease/basics/causes/con-20034056

    If you're going to make a claim like you did above, it would probably be a good idea to have some sources/studies that back up your claim.
  • 59gi
    59gi Posts: 307 Member
    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.



    How about providing some sources of your own?
    Since when is Mayo Clinic not an authority on health? The other link is a Harvard link.

    ETA - I see now you have fixed it.
  • 59gi
    59gi Posts: 307 Member
    I am morbidly obese and quantity is the most important to me. I overeat (my portions were too large) and I had a binge about every 10 days (not tv worthy binging, but you know, a whole bag of candy type thing). Logging, even if I'm not weighing keeps me accountable.

    I started just by cutting down the bad stuff. People who are much smaller than me still cringe at my diary. The thing is, after a week or so of the small portions of bad stuff you get hungry. REALLY hungry. Then you have to start the shifting. You have to add in veggies, you have to lower the carbs and dressings and sauces, because if you don't you feel like you are starving because there simply isn't enough nutrition in the bad stuff to keep you going.

    I recently made enchiladas. As I entered all the various ingredients one really surprised me. One tortilla was 250 cal. If I hadn't been logging I would have never, ever guessed it to be so high. So next time I buy tortillas, I will be label reading. I'm sure there is a better brand or option, I just didn't know that was a problem ingredient.

    Quantity first, but when you are really hungry you will either give up or make different choices.

    When you feed your body with healthy food, it curves the appetite. You are doing great :)
  • jasonmh630
    jasonmh630 Posts: 2,850 Member
    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

    What? The Mayo Clinic is one of the most credible sources for health info.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

    So who do YOU use as an "authority"?
  • LifeWithPie
    LifeWithPie Posts: 552 Member
    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.


    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

    Where were your sources again?

    You're the one making the claim. It's your job to back it up. That's how science works.
  • jasonmh630
    jasonmh630 Posts: 2,850 Member
    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.



    How about providing some sources of your own?
    Since when is Mayo Clinic not an authority on health? The other link is a Harvard link.

    ETA - I see now you have fixed it.

    THIS.
  • LifeWithPie
    LifeWithPie Posts: 552 Member
    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

    So who do YOU use as an "authority"?

    I'm guessing Dr. Oz.
  • jasonmh630
    jasonmh630 Posts: 2,850 Member
    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

    Once again, please provide sources for your claim. You're making the claim, so the burden of proof is on you.
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

    So who do YOU use as an "authority"?

    I'm guessing Dr. Oz.

    My money is on Lustig. Or Mercola.
  • 59gi
    59gi Posts: 307 Member
    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.



    How about providing some sources of your own?
    Since when is Mayo Clinic not an authority on health? The other link is a Harvard link.

    ETA - I see now you have fixed it.


    There is all kind information out there, that is all I'm going to say about this issue. Quality of food is important and blood sugar does cause all of the above.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    You're the one making the claim. It's your job to back it up.

    Bingo...
  • 59gi
    59gi Posts: 307 Member
    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

    So who do YOU use as an "authority"?

    Other sources that tell the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm an Health Care Professional.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    There is all kind information out there, that is all I'm going to say about this issue. Quality of food is important and blood sugar does cause all of the above.

    How can anyone take you seriously if you won't at least try to back up your wild claims?
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

    So who do YOU use as an "authority"?

    Other sources that tell the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm an Health Care Professional.

    Again, you want us to do our homework, how about at least pointing us in the right direction.
    I find it interesting that you refuse to share, especially as a "health care professional". You would think you would want to share the truth for the rest of us.
  • jasonmh630
    jasonmh630 Posts: 2,850 Member
    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.



    How about providing some sources of your own?
    Since when is Mayo Clinic not an authority on health? The other link is a Harvard link.

    ETA - I see now you have fixed it.


    There is all kind information out there, that is all I'm going to say about this issue. Quality of food is important and blood sugar does cause all of the above.

    No, mam. No one is going to take you seriously if you don't provide the back up to your own claims. It's not up to US to prove what YOU claim. We've done our research and provided you with 4-5 links that contradict yours. If you make a claim, back it up... Fortunately, it IS as simple as that.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

    So who do YOU use as an "authority"?

    Other sources that tell the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm an Health Care Professional.

    OMG!!! So am I!!!

    (What sources?)

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