Birthday Alternative for Cake and Ice Cream

more cheesecake?

more cheesecake?

more cheesecake?

Now, this would work. Cheesecake is the closest thing to cake and ice cream together. 10/10 would eat.

In the same paragraph you said "bad food" AND said not to let food have power over you. HUH? Food is not "bad," eating it in excess is. Moderation, my friend.

Seriously, labeling food as bad IS giving it power.

Except for that whole science thing that shows even 40g of refined sugar every day (which is about only 25% of what the average American consumes every day) independently increases diabetes risk by about 18%. So telling the average person you need to cut out more than 75% of their daily sugar intake I think is far from moderation.

Moderation itself is an ambiguous term defined by society and time. People who use moderation in their diet today would be the worst of the eaters 40 years ago.

So if you label anger as a bad emotion is that giving it power? Um... No... It's just recognizing it's not the healthiest emotion to experience so you do things to avoid it. Bad foods = foods scientifically shown to have negative health effects. Refined sugar is top on the list. Even moderation has implications of bad. Trying to avoid labeling foods as bad is creating an environment that makes it justifiable to eat unhealthy foods when a person subjective deems fit which is far from optimal for progress and results. Other foods with a lot of scientific evidence behind it having negative health impacts are soy, Omega-6 imbalanced oils, and trans-fats to name a few.

Care to make that science available to the rest of us (the study) so we can ruminate on it ourselves, such as looking to see if it's a cause=/= causation situation, an obesity related issue or one that's not likely to affect people of a normal weight. I kinda need to see the context before I jump on the demonic refined sugar bandwagon.

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00125-013-2899-8

The quoted 18% is after factoring out impact from BMI which combined with sugar consumption had a 52% increase.

People with normal weight still develop T2DM you know...

In the same paragraph you said "bad food" AND said not to let food have power over you. HUH? Food is not "bad," eating it in excess is. Moderation, my friend.

Seriously, labeling food as bad IS giving it power.

Except for that whole science thing that shows even 40g of refined sugar every day (which is about only 25% of what the average American consumes every day) independently increases diabetes risk by about 18%. So telling the average person you need to cut out more than 75% of their daily sugar intake I think is far from moderation.

Moderation itself is an ambiguous term defined by society and time. People who use moderation in their diet today would be the worst of the eaters 40 years ago.

So if you label anger as a bad emotion is that giving it power? Um... No... It's just recognizing it's not the healthiest emotion to experience so you do things to avoid it. Bad foods = foods scientifically shown to have negative health effects. Refined sugar is top on the list. Even moderation has implications of bad. Trying to avoid labeling foods as bad is creating an environment that makes it justifiable to eat unhealthy foods when a person subjective deems fit which is far from optimal for progress and results. Other foods with a lot of scientific evidence behind it having negative health impacts are soy, Omega-6 imbalanced oils, and trans-fats to name a few.

Care to make that science available to the rest of us (the study) so we can ruminate on it ourselves, such as looking to see if it's a cause=/= causation situation, an obesity related issue or one that's not likely to affect people of a normal weight. I kinda need to see the context before I jump on the demonic refined sugar bandwagon.

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00125-013-2899-8

The quoted 18% is after factoring out impact from BMI which combined with sugar consumption had a 52% increase.

People with normal weight still develop T2DM you know...

I would think things like family history and whether or not you have metabolic syndrome or blood sugar issues should play into this. A blanket statement EVERYBODY should eat this much just doesn't sit well with me.

I would think things like family history and whether or not you have metabolic syndrome or blood sugar issues should play into this. A blanket statement EVERYBODY should eat this much just doesn't sit well with me.

It's not a blanket recommendation, it's statistics using the laws of large numbers that shows the more refined sugar you consume the more likely you are to develop T2DM.

Metabolic syndrome includes insulin resistance so having insulin resistance means you're developing T2DM if you don't have it yet. That's like saying being overweight is a factor if overeating will cause obesity.

Family history pales in comparison to personal diet. Time and time again it has been shown that genetic predisposition only accounts for increased likelihood if the causal conditions are met, but again when you're using the law of large numbers this averages out between those inclined to develop it and those not inclined.

On my last birthday I just had lots of my favorite food...Sushi. I also had mochi covered green tea sorbet But I would totally just eat cake if I liked it more than sushi and mochi covered sorbet. Like everyone said, just work it in and don't make your kids hate you with that watermelon trick. Just plain evils.


Can someone clue me in though, am I missing something with the Hawaiian rolls? I don't get it :blushing: .