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    Finding Meaning & Delivering Confessions

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    • Posts: 327 Member
      Do you by chance also self-identify as an indigo child?
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      Is this thing still going?
    • Posts: 1,593 Member
      Do you by chance also self-identify as an indigo child?

      certainly not.
    • Posts: 9 Member
      Now that was funny!
    • Posts: 914 Member
      Do you by chance also self-identify as an indigo child?

      Now you're putting thoughts into his head. There will at some point be an indigo child thread.
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      certainly not.

      Interesting. You line up on most of the points.
    • Posts: 9,420 Member
      “If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.”


      ― Albert Einstein

      After 10 pages not one six year old here knows what the hell you're on about. Maybe you're not as smart as you think you are.

      I think we do. I think we really, really do. I think IDGAF summed it up best though.
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      So, how does one see your thoughts on herd and collective thinking? Visual telepathy? Is there a book in the works for how to master this?

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      Child, you do not even know me. You have no idea what my mind is capable of. I wouldn't be so quick to make judgements or be dismissive. In this instance- you may want to accept that YOU JUST DON'T KNOW.

      Fair - with you personally. - my point came off as far to personal. My mind is in constant turmoil and debate - there is rarely a moment of rest. - now as my ideal ideas of virtue run harmonious with my action I think my body and mind will be more 'at ease' - but for now its constant adaption and growing.
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      You didn't actually submit research for your biography. You submitted a large, awkward, random assemblage of sentences. In fact, the sentences you apparently kidnapped in the dead of night and forced into this violent and arbitrary plan of yours clearly seemed to be placed on the thread against their will. Reading your post(s)/responses was like watching unfamiliar, uncomfortable people interact at a cocktail party that no one wanted to attend in the first place. You didn't submit research. You submitted a hostage situation.

      No, no..I regret bringing up the biography - none of that had anything to do with this.

      ^I like your point though - things should be elaborated more basically for everyone since I'm specifically trying to hit the average person and wake up or at least communicate with his 'self'. No, this was simply to get - and I thought it was super clear on my 1st post - simply to know if positive disintegration could be taken seriously by the gifted and if any of the gifted had already stumbled on to existential philosophy as a coping mechanism for dealing with the absurdity and void.
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      I am thoroughly amazed that you aren't writing an autobiography.
    • Posts: 16,414 Member
      You didn't actually submit research for your biography. You submitted a large, awkward, random assemblage of sentences. In fact, the sentences you apparently kidnapped in the dead of night and forced into this violent and arbitrary plan of yours clearly seemed to be placed on the thread against their will. Reading your post(s)/responses was like watching unfamiliar, uncomfortable people interact at a cocktail party that no one wanted to attend in the first place. You didn't submit research. You submitted a hostage situation.
      This ... this ... this is beautiful. The writer in me is in tears, it's so beautiful.
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      the irony.... :laugh:

      I am getting this conversation back on point.
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      finding individual meaning- ie your purpse in life
      finding the meaning of the human species in respect to this earth and the other creatures on it
      or finding meaning of the living organism we call earth as far as it relates to the entire universe....

      I'll have a discussion with you that will be very intelligent. you may not like what I have to say but that is part of the deal. based on your IQ limitations I am "smart" enough to have this discussion with you but I need you to drill down on a more specific topic, this post as it is right now could take 6 months of almost daily coffee house meetings to get through

      or we can just simply talk about Extententialism and get it over with
    • Posts: 1,593 Member
      finding individual meaning- ie your purpse in life
      finding the meaning of the human species in respect to this earth and the other creatures on it
      or finding meaning of the living organism we call earth as far as it relates to the entire universe....

      I'll have a discussion with you that will be very intelligent. you may not like what I have to say but that is part of the deal. based on your IQ limitations I am "smart" enough to have this discussion with you but I need you to drill down on a more specific topic, this post as it is right now could take 6 months of almost daily coffee house meetings to get through

      or we can just simply talk about Extententialism and get it over with
      +1 - PMing
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      No, no..I regret bringing up the biography - none of that had anything to do with this.

      ^I like your point though - things should be elaborated more basically for everyone since I'm specifically trying to hit the average person and wake up or at least communicate with his 'self'. No, this was simply to get - and I thought it was super clear on my 1st post - simply to know if positive disintegration could be taken seriously by the gifted and if any of the gifted had already stumbled on to existential philosophy as a coping mechanism for dealing with the absurdity and void.
      The thing is that no matter how gifted a person is, that person only knows what that person has been educated on. And not everyone, no matter their intelligence, is familiar with philosophy and psychology at the level you're speaking. So you're speaking down to anyone who isn't an expert on those things, either by profession, formal education or simply reading about it out of interest.

      I am not at that level, though looking things up made them clear enough to understand the concepts. I shouldn't have had to do that work. You wanted something from people and then asked them to do extra work to give it to you. The only reason I did is that I'm naturally curious and I like to learn new things.
    • Posts: 4,535 Member
      I'm singing "Scottie Doesn't Know" in my head right now. Anyone else remember that song? Matt Damon <3

      You're very young, your ideas aren't fully formed and your focus group (to determine intelligence and willingness to converse about these topics) is a fitness board. Most people are here to goof around and have fun - a change from the intensity of harried lives, not discuss the meaning of life.

      Anyway, get an editor. And good luck............
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      Fair - with you personally. - my point came off as far to personal. My mind is in constant turmoil and debate - there is rarely a moment of rest. - now as my ideal ideas of virtue run harmonious with my action I think my body and mind will be more 'at ease' - but for now its constant adaption and growing.

      OP your hubris seems to be your Achilles heel as you have demonstrated in many a thread, you constantly withdraw comments admitting fault but follow it up with further ego driven statements and proclamations. Adapt to be adept. Follow up your statements about self reevaluation with action and maybe consider the delivery of your posts, responses etc and people may take you more seriously.

      I am still unsure if you are a master troll or are someone who repeatedly displays a truly narcissistic personality that is all to ready to be dismissive of others opinions.
    • Posts: 1,593 Member
      I'm singing "Scottie Doesn't Know" in my head right now. Anyone else remember that song? Matt Damon <3

      You're very young, your ideas aren't fully formed and your focus group (to determine intelligence and willingness to converse about these topics) is a fitness board. Most people are here to goof around and have fun - a change from the intensity of harried lives, not discuss the meaning of life.

      Anyway, get an editor. And good luck............

      And I'm singing it along with you. I do not know - it is why I am here trying to find 130+ that display overexcitabilities to learn from them.
      My idea's by the way are not fully formed- and obviously not being articulated efficiently.
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      No, no..I regret bringing up the biography - none of that had anything to do with this.

      ^I like your point though - things should be elaborated more basically for everyone since I'm specifically trying to hit the average person and wake up or at least communicate with his 'self'. No, this was simply to get - and I thought it was super clear on my 1st post - simply to know if positive disintegration could be taken seriously by the gifted and if any of the gifted had already stumbled on to existential philosophy as a coping mechanism for dealing with the absurdity and void.

      Honestly, positive disintegration looks like a sophomoric attempt to appear "special."

      You might want to check out Mezirow's Transformative Learning Theory - though I haven't seen that it has more real-world application than straight up Cognitive/Constructivist Learning Theories.
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      OP your hubris seems to be your Achilles heel as you have demonstrated in many a thread, you constantly withdraw comments admitting fault but follow it up with further ego driven statements and proclamations. Adapt to be adept. Follow up your statements about self reevaluation with action and maybe consider the delivery of your posts, responses etc and people may take you more seriously.

      I am still unsure if you are a master troll or are someone who repeatedly displays a truly narcissistic personality that is all to ready to be dismissive of others so readily.

      Lol. Just a side note - I just learned what 'hubris' meant like a month ago - truly one of my favorite words. Makes me smile every time I hear or see it.

      I appreciate your observation - I can see your point.

      I am however not a narcissist. Watch and wait, the love of people will most likely be my undoing.
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      The thing is that no matter how gifted a person is, that person only knows what that person has been educated on. And not everyone, no matter their intelligence, is familiar with philosophy and psychology at the level you're speaking. So you're speaking down to anyone who isn't an expert on those things, either by profession, formal education or simply reading about it out of interest.

      I am not at that level, though looking things up made them clear enough to understand the concepts. I shouldn't have had to do that work. You wanted something from people and then asked them to do extra work to give it to you. The only reason I did is that I'm naturally curious and I like to learn new things.

      He's not speaking of them at a particularly high level. It's coming off as very autodiadactic and not very seasoned. If he did have the advanced level understanding that he pretends to want to engage at, he would be able to present simple points in simple ways. And he'd probably find the MFP audience to be boring as they wouldn't have the context to respond in a way to take the thoughts to the next level.

      ETA - Updated with better term.
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      Honestly, positive disintegration looks like a sophomoric attempt to appear "special."

      You might want to check out Mezirow's Transformative Learning Theory - though I haven't seen that it has more real-world application than straight up Cognitive/Constructivist Learning Theories.

      ^haslow was friends with Dabrowski and he appreciated the idea. I will look into Mezirow's transformative learning theory.
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      than even*

      I love you, man.
    • Posts: 16,414 Member
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      He's not speaking of them at a particularly high level. It's coming off as very autodiadactic and not very seasoned. If he did have the advanced level understanding that he pretends to want to engage at, he would be able to present simple points in simple ways. And he'd probably find the MFP audience to be boring as they wouldn't have the context to respond in a way to take the thoughts to the next level.

      ETA - Updated with better term.
      I should say, rather, that he's using terms and referencing psychologists and philosophers that only those who have specifically studied them will know about. Either way, he's asking people to do extra work in order to give him free information.
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      You used the word "I" 10 times in your example of how you don't display narcissistic traits.

      I love you too.
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      "screaming to be 'wrote'..."

      What's your IQ again?

      burn.
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      Really, though, you can just tell adults "this is why you need to know this" and they'll take care of the transformative thing themselves. Occasionally, after a couple of pilots, there are times where you notice that people assume that understand the concept more than they do, but that's mostly going to be taken care of if you provide sufficient practice and feedback.

      The levels described in positive disintegration seem to be pretty pedestrian - most people I know who are over the age of 30 have addressed all of these to a basic degree, except they don't require manic-depression to make this happen.
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      Dawkins said in our sexual selection the brain is our peacocks tail! :wink:

      Actually it's nothing like a peacock's tail. Peacock's tails are hard to explain in evolutionary terms - it's more of an advert for good genes, as in if it can survive with a ridiculously big and pretty tail which has no evolutionary advantage and is probably a hinderance to survival, it can't have that bad genetics in everything other than its tail. But higher cognitive functions that come from the human brain including the ability to construct complex sentences, make fancy tools and all the rest conveys a huge evolutionary advantage in and of itself, and sexual selection for people who can construct complex sentences would directly increase the survival of your offspring. Not hard to explain at all, and not something that exists for no other reason than to advertise your good genes to attract a mate.
    • Posts: 517 Member
      10/10 would not read your auto/biography if I were offered money.

      Amen.
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