Women prefer bellies over 6-packs

Does this work in reverse? I'm a girl with a 6-pack (okay, more like a 4-pack, but whatevs); does this mean my personality automatically sucks, I'm obsessive, I cheat, and I don't make time for my family? :huh:

Of course it does. Quit being such a biotch and have a cookie.

Chocolate chunk, I hope. If not, this discussion is over. :huh:

You are so demanding! It's gotta be the abs. Fine, I'll get right on it

This is why I love you. And those 2 other very important reasons, of course.

Yes...my charming personality and my rapier wit

Does this work in reverse? I'm a girl with a 6-pack (okay, more like a 4-pack, but whatevs); does this mean my personality automatically sucks, I'm obsessive, I cheat, and I don't make time for my family? :huh:

Of course it does. Quit being such a biotch and have a cookie.

Chocolate chunk, I hope. If not, this discussion is over. :huh:

You are so demanding! It's gotta be the abs. Fine, I'll get right on it

This is why I love you. And those 2 other very important reasons, of course.

Yes...my charming personality and my rapier wit

Is that what you've named the girls? I thought they were Lady and the Tramp.

If the person is in it for the long haul, they have to care more about personality than looks. Bodies change, we get old, even among bodybuilders there is a cut/bulk cycle. No one has a 6-pack ALL the time. We all have bloated days etc.

It's a good thing.

I'm guessing that if this was a thread by a chubby guy complaining about how he doesn't have a six pack and can't meet women everyone would be chanting the typical "confidence is all that matters" BS. Since the OP has a six pack and is posting something somewhat anti-six pack we're all getting the chorus of "but six packs are really really important" posts.

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What thread are you reading? :huh: Half the responses have been affirming that we don't care about a 6-pack.

^agree

Nah, we are still claiming we prefer personality to looks.

Which is fine.

However the survey isn't really about personality over looks.

It is about the perception of men's personalities based on nothing but looks. Which is pretty sucky.

That extra time available for fat dudes that don't use the gym will eventually be offset by impaired mobility and death from things like diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, etc.

Oh come now! Not having a six pack does not always = obesity or poor health.

I'm guessing that if this was a thread by a chubby guy complaining about how he doesn't have a six pack and can't meet women everyone would be chanting the typical "confidence is all that matters" BS. Since the OP has a six pack and is posting something somewhat anti-six pack we're all getting the chorus of "but six packs are really really important" posts.

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What thread are you reading? :huh: Half the responses have been affirming that we don't care about a 6-pack.

^agree

Nah, we are still claiming we prefer personality to looks.

Which is fine.

However the survey isn't really about personality over looks.

It is about the perception of men's personalities based on nothing but looks. Which is pretty sucky.

imho it's only a small part of it. the perception of personality based on a physical aspect that the person has chosen to enhance, IS indeed indicative of at least one personality trait. Narcissism. being in shape or being fit or caring about yourself is entirely different than the hours at the gym needed to achieve the kind of cut we're talking about.. but beyond that.. at a more basic level.. it isn't a good look. it's not attractive. even if we are just talking eye candy.. I don't think super cut men are generally all that. never did. Some muscle is great but not muscle man ripped type muscles. it's just not attractive.

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I'm guessing that if this was a thread by a chubby guy complaining about how he doesn't have a six pack and can't meet women everyone would be chanting the typical "confidence is all that matters" BS. Since the OP has a six pack and is posting something somewhat anti-six pack we're all getting the chorus of "but six packs are really really important" posts.

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What thread are you reading? :huh: Half the responses have been affirming that we don't care about a 6-pack.

LOL I'd say the opposite. Most of the posts are basically saying non-six pack guys are only getting dates because women are fat or insecure.

I think you may be misreading that. Maybe that is the case for some, maybe not. People are attracted to those they feel comfortable with. If someone is insecure in their size, they may not feel comfortable with someone who is built like adonis... they may worry that their lack of fitness makes them unattractive or unappealing. Regardless of gender.

I have ab definition, but have never dated or been with anyone who has one. Why? Because I choose to date the MAN, not the body, and I don't lift up their shirts to see what's under before I engage in conversation. It's not on my list of "must haves" in a man.

Is it nice? Sure. Is it necessary. Hell to the no.

Many of the responses I've seen in this thread have said that too.

I've read a few studies over the years that many women are unconsciously attracted to men who have similar personalities/traits as their fathers. Many fathers (not all of course) have bellies so perhaps it ties in a little to the studies already posted.

6 pack or no 6 pack, I don't care. It's not really up there in the most attractive traits for me. My preferences are an attractive face, and quite big guys (tall, stocky, muscle) This could mean they have a belly / little extra body fat, or they could have well defined abs. All is good, as long as they're healthy. Being strong is a preference too, which again, does not equal lean or otherwise.

I also don't make judgements on a guy's personality based on what he looks like. There are people I know who act like complete *kitten*, and they aren't close to fit or ripped, but some of the nicest guy's I've met are really into fitness/lifting, and vice versa. It's very individual.

However I'd totally pick Seth Rogan over Zac Effron. I mean, really.

Me too! I thought I'd be the odd one out there, haha!

imho it's only a small part of it. the perception of personality based on a physical aspect that the person has chosen to enhance, IS indeed indicative of at least one personality trait. Narcissism. being in shape or being fit or caring about yourself is entirely different than the hours at the gym needed to achieve the kind of cut we're talking about.. but beyond that.. at a more basic level.. it isn't a good look. it's not attractive. even if we are just talking eye candy.. I don't think super cut men are generally all that. never did. Some muscle is great but not muscle man ripped type muscles. it's just not attractive.

Men who have 6 packs do not exclusively fallen within the ambit of "bodybuilders" and even if they do you cannot simply assume they are narcissists simply because of that pursuit without knowing the individual. That sounds more like prejudice based on incomplete information and assumptions.

In addition, say you have a fatter gentleman who is training for a marathon or any endurance event. The amount of time he spends training may dwarf that of a bodybuilder and his diet may be even more restrictive yet somehow these negative associations do not apply. Is that fair, right or rational ?

@hat. but seriously. I don't know about big belly or not for the general preference but I would believe a bit of softness is preferable to a guy who is completely ripped. I was going off the daily mail uk article not the fox article comparing mr darcy to bond.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2742294/Mr-Darcy-beats-Bond-battle-bodies-British-women-date-man-love-handles-six-pack.html

and that is true. (Although I think the tall dark and handsome thing is winning out over the short and ripped and kind of ugly thing)

but still, colin firth is exactly the kind of body type I'm thinking when I say it's preferable to ripped and definitely not in the path for health problems

and let's go a step further and address the possibility of cheating or insecurity. EVERYONE loves colin firth. if we were talking no name guys, not superstars, and you just had a guy who was a dead ringer for daniel craig and one who was a dead ringer for colin firth I think a lot more temptation would be in the path of the firth look alike than the craig lookalike.

no

I can't say I am surprised by these results, but was this a scientific study or a survey? Does anyone have a link to the actual study?

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I'm pretty sure i read it's Fox..... So i hope your expectations are very very very very very low.

Which is fine.

However the survey isn't really about personality over looks.

It is about the perception of men's personalities based on nothing but looks. Which is pretty sucky.

This study shows that while men can agree on one type of attractiveness, women cannot.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090626153511.htm

ETA: yes it is sucky when people are judged by their looks alone.

The study you linked says that women prefer thin, muscular men