Congratulating MFP friends who make bad choices
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We are all here to encourage each other to become healthier.
That's not why I'm here.If your MFP friend is falling off the wagon, it is your job to remind them that they are making a choice that is bad for them. Maybe they are letting old ways creep back in without realising it?
Nope, that's not my job. If anyone on my FL thinks that's my job, they can remove me.
We're all adults. If someone eats 2k calories of pound cake, I'm going to say it sounds yummy, because it does. If they do it 3 days a week and are still achieving their fitness goals, I'm going to tell them they're bad@ss. If they're complaining about being squishy and jiggly, I might tell them to eat more protein. If they're whining about being constipated, I might suggest more fiber. If they say they're having a hard time not stuffing their face with pastries all day, I'll offer some advice that helped me when my sweet tooth got a little out of hand. If they flat out ask me to hold them accountable, and I have the time and desire to do so, I'll call them on their bull$hit. If they require excessive hand holding, I'm the wrong friend for them.
Personal responsibility.
I'd hold your hand
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My problem is how much I love the taste and I cannot eat just a slice or two of pizza. But I plan ahead for it because I know that about myself.
But yeah I've never understood what's so unhealthy about bread, cheese, meat, and veggies. Unless you subscribe to the mindset that wheat is poison, of course.0 -
If my friends were making bad choices, ones that actually harmed other people (not just busybodies), I wouldn't congratulate them. What they eat falls into the category of 'not my problem'0
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We definatly cant be friends.. I eat pizza probably once a week, the occasional oreo, drink beer, and every now and then go to chickfila. But the important part is i always stay at or under my calorie goal.
We, on the other hand, can definitely be friends, since I eat those same things!
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I'm taking baby steps because I've tried making the drastic step of cutting everything out and trying to only eat clean. You know what? That didn't work for me. This is the first time in my life that I'm making a conscious effort to change my life. In order to do that, FOR ME, I need to take it slow and to work on one thing at a time. I started with walking more. Then added interval training through C25K. I started counting calories and just working on making the things I want work within my calorie guidelines almost 80 days ago and have been a faithful logger ever since. Yes, my log may show fast food and other stuff, but what it doesn't show you is the reduction in the amount of fast food from almost every day to 1-2 days/week. It doesn't show that I chose a small fry instead of a medium or an ice tea/water instead of a coke.
I'm currently working on adding more strength training and upping my movement. I've challenged myself to do a 5k every week until Halloween when the amount of 5ks available begins to decline. Gradually, I plan to eat more and more clean until I'm only eating out occasionally.
I leave my diary open so other people can see what I'm doing. I don't force my opinion on them when I see them doing something I wouldn't do. Judging someone by their diary can be very deceptive. If you don't like what they're eating, don't say anything. Find more friends that have the same goals/beliefs as you.
*Edited to soothe the grammar nerd within0 -
in to read later
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To be honest, the first thing I check is not the type of foods that are being logged but the macros and calories.
Too many times I see people 'congratulating' a diary that is less than 1000 calories. If I know someone is dealing with the struggle to eat enough and is under-eating - which I do find is way too common here - then quite frankly, YES, please eat that cheeseburger. After they're consistent with eating for awhile, then I can start to encourage them to eat their protein or some other 'healthy' alternative down the line.
But any encouragement is only after I've messaged with a friend or chatted for awhile and I know what they're struggling with personally. If I see someone is under one day, I'll ask why - maybe they're sick? But if I see someone is consistently under, I won't comment on their diary, I WILL send them a message asking what's up. I'm up front with my friends though - I tell them I will ask them what's up if they're not eating, exercising or meeting some other 'goal' they've set for themselves. If they don't want me to ask and are really in it for the cat gifs - I don't ask.
I want to be an encouragement to my friends, and to me, that means baby steps in encouragement. Eat. Eat close to your macros. Eat food close to your nutritional goals. These are small steps - but they need the previous steps as a foundation to meet their personal goals if they're struggling'. Or sometimes...it's a cat gif. There are all types of encouragement on here, and not everyone responds well to 'stop eating big macs!'
You are correct. The first thing someone should check is what you have stated. It could be that someones isn't losing weight due to too much sodium intake. It could be something else. Never badger them, it is about motivating them to watch certain things if they are not dropping the weight they are wanting and changing the choices they make throughout the day. It is a decision they will have to make. .0 -
IN for blanket statements and demonizing food0
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Is the McDonalds or Pizza hut within their macros?
I had McDonalds today. And my macros will be perfect.
Shove it with the good and bad food thing.0 -
If anyone can log this, you bet your sweet bippy I'm going to congratulate them!
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My problem is how much I love the taste and I cannot eat just a slice or two of pizza. But I plan ahead for it because I know that about myself.
But yeah I've never understood what's so unhealthy about bread, cheese, meat, and veggies. Unless you subscribe to the mindset that wheat is poison, of course.
That's a separate issue to me, although I do know lots of people have that problem with pizza. And yes, a big part of practicing moderation is knowing oneself and what circumstances will be too much for the willpower one possesses.0 -
This is a bit of a problem around here.
Too many times I see a diary full of McDonalds, and other junk, sweeties and pastries and so called "friends" like the diary and say things like "Great Logging!", "Well done!", or "Yummy day!".
We are all here to encourage each other to become healthier. If your MFP friend is falling off the wagon, it is your job to remind them that they are making a choice that is bad for them. Maybe they are letting old ways creep back in without realising it?
Do your friends a favour and let them know that they are going wrong. I would expect the same for the rest of my friends on MFP. Be hard on me if you see a slice of Pizza or a McDonalds happy meal on my diary!
It's time to stop blindly congratulating people on making bad choices that can ultimately lead to lower quality of life and ultimately, death!
Edit: I know I sound grumpy and normally I am not. Just concerned that's all
I'm more concerned by the diaries of people that consistently eat under 1200 calories, and get congratulated for coming in under their goal.0 -
I like McDonalds and pizza!
I should not drink while I read posts. My water almost came out my nose I laughed so hard!! This made my day!! ????0 -
Personal responsibility....hmmmmmm There's a concept worth looking at.0
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Oh definitely! I was just saying that I don't think pizza in itself is bad or that anyone should be criticized for eating it. Just that FOR ME, it's tough to eat in moderation. I can eat a caprese salad and bread moderately, though.
My problem is how much I love the taste and I cannot eat just a slice or two of pizza. But I plan ahead for it because I know that about myself.
But yeah I've never understood what's so unhealthy about bread, cheese, meat, and veggies. Unless you subscribe to the mindset that wheat is poison, of course.
That's a separate issue to me, although I do know lots of people have that problem with pizza. And yes, a big part of practicing moderation is knowing oneself and what circumstances will be too much for the willpower one possesses.
But I will still eat pizza. :-)0 -
This is why my diary is closed.
This!
I log what I eat, most days I stay within my targets for the day. Going over for the day doesn't mean I'm off the wagon, it means I was likely under the day before or that I plan to balance it out later in the week. Or...[gasp] I was just hungry. Life happens. I don't need a hall monitor peering over my shoulder telling me that a particular food is 'bad' or that I should eat cauliflower instead of potatoes, or that I need to replace a meal with an overpriced shake... :grumble:0 -
Tomorrow night is pizza night and I will be having some. Same as every other friday. I watch what I eat and modify for this event.0
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We definatly cant be friends.. I eat pizza probably once a week, the occasional oreo, drink beer, and every now and then go to chickfila. But the important part is i always stay at or under my calorie goal.
We, on the other hand, can definitely be friends, since I eat those same things!
Cheers to real food!! :drinker: :drinker:0 -
Oh definitely! I was just saying that I don't think pizza in itself is bad or that anyone should be criticized for eating it. Just that FOR ME, it's tough to eat in moderation. I can eat a caprese salad and bread moderately, though.
My problem is how much I love the taste and I cannot eat just a slice or two of pizza. But I plan ahead for it because I know that about myself.
But yeah I've never understood what's so unhealthy about bread, cheese, meat, and veggies. Unless you subscribe to the mindset that wheat is poison, of course.
That's a separate issue to me, although I do know lots of people have that problem with pizza. And yes, a big part of practicing moderation is knowing oneself and what circumstances will be too much for the willpower one possesses.
But I will still eat pizza. :-)
Note OP said "a slice of pizza". The talk here is not about moderation, everyone is to decide for themselves when and how much to eat of something, or if they should skip it if they're not sure they can control themselves. The problem is calling some foods "bad" or "unhealthy" just because it looks a certain way, when you could just deconstruct your pizza, not make the tomatoes into sauce and not melt the cheese and it's suddenly healthy.0 -
Oh definitely! I was just saying that I don't think pizza in itself is bad or that anyone should be criticized for eating it. Just that FOR ME, it's tough to eat in moderation. I can eat a caprese salad and bread moderately, though.
My problem is how much I love the taste and I cannot eat just a slice or two of pizza. But I plan ahead for it because I know that about myself.
But yeah I've never understood what's so unhealthy about bread, cheese, meat, and veggies. Unless you subscribe to the mindset that wheat is poison, of course.
That's a separate issue to me, although I do know lots of people have that problem with pizza. And yes, a big part of practicing moderation is knowing oneself and what circumstances will be too much for the willpower one possesses.
But I will still eat pizza. :-)
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This is a bit of a problem around here.
Too many times I see a diary full of McDonalds, and other junk, sweeties and pastries and so called "friends" like the diary and say things like "Great Logging!", "Well done!", or "Yummy day!".
We are all here to encourage each other to become healthier. If your MFP friend is falling off the wagon, it is your job to remind them that they are making a choice that is bad for them. Maybe they are letting old ways creep back in without realising it?
Do your friends a favour and let them know that they are going wrong. I would expect the same for the rest of my friends on MFP. Be hard on me if you see a slice of Pizza or a McDonalds happy meal on my diary!
It's time to stop blindly congratulating people on making bad choices that can ultimately lead to lower quality of life and ultimately, death!
Edit: I know I sound grumpy and normally I am not. Just concerned that's all
I'm more concerned by the diaries of people that consistently eat under 1200 calories, and get congratulated for coming in under their goal.
Too many calories, too few calories, too much junk, too much sugar, too much alcohol...
We're all adults here.
We're all responsible for our own actions.
Losing a few pounds doesn't make you an M.D., Ph.D, nutritionist or God.
If they want your input, they'll ask for it.
Otherwise, MIND YOUR OWN F_ING BUSINESS!0 -
This is a bit of a problem around here.
Too many times I see a diary full of McDonalds, and other junk, sweeties and pastries and so called "friends" like the diary and say things like "Great Logging!", "Well done!", or "Yummy day!".
We are all here to encourage each other to become healthier. If your MFP friend is falling off the wagon, it is your job to remind them that they are making a choice that is bad for them. Maybe they are letting old ways creep back in without realising it?
Do your friends a favour and let them know that they are going wrong. I would expect the same for the rest of my friends on MFP. Be hard on me if you see a slice of Pizza or a McDonalds happy meal on my diary!
It's time to stop blindly congratulating people on making bad choices that can ultimately lead to lower quality of life and ultimately, death!
Edit: I know I sound grumpy and normally I am not. Just concerned that's all
I'm more concerned by the diaries of people that consistently eat under 1200 calories, and get congratulated for coming in under their goal.
hear hear!0 -
You aren't judgmental at all, OP! *sarcasm*0
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I'm of the idea that if you logged your food for the day, you get a congrats. Why? Because just that step alone will help you be more mindful about what you are eating and when - and why! It will help you identify trends and figure out what's helping you or getting in your way.
Logging regularly is a goal in and of itself, and I'm proud of anyone who has the personal responsibility and accountability to do it as long as it beneficial for them.0 -
This is a bit of a problem around here.
Too many times I see a diary full of McDonalds, and other junk, sweeties and pastries and so called "friends" like the diary and say things like "Great Logging!", "Well done!", or "Yummy day!".
We are all here to encourage each other to become healthier. If your MFP friend is falling off the wagon, it is your job to remind them that they are making a choice that is bad for them. Maybe they are letting old ways creep back in without realising it?
Do your friends a favour and let them know that they are going wrong. I would expect the same for the rest of my friends on MFP. Be hard on me if you see a slice of Pizza or a McDonalds happy meal on my diary!
It's time to stop blindly congratulating people on making bad choices that can ultimately lead to lower quality of life and ultimately, death!
Edit: I know I sound grumpy and normally I am not. Just concerned that's all
I'm more concerned by the diaries of people that consistently eat under 1200 calories, and get congratulated for coming in under their goal.
Too many calories, too few calories, too much junk, too much sugar, too much alcohol...
We're all adults here.
We're all responsible for our own actions.
Losing a few pounds doesn't make you an M.D., Ph.D, nutritionist or God.
If they want your input, they'll ask for it.
Otherwise, MIND YOUR OWN F_ING BUSINESS!
I didn't say I said anything. Heck, I don't even LOOK at people's food diaries. But as someone recovering from an ED, who used to consistently burn 1000 calories while eating around 1600, and having people consistently tell me how great i was doing, yeah, not so good.0 -
This is why my dairy is closed....don't judge me...I Do What I Want
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This is a bit of a problem around here.
Too many times I see a diary full of McDonalds, and other junk, sweeties and pastries and so called "friends" like the diary and say things like "Great Logging!", "Well done!", or "Yummy day!".
We are all here to encourage each other to become healthier. If your MFP friend is falling off the wagon, it is your job to remind them that they are making a choice that is bad for them. Maybe they are letting old ways creep back in without realising it?
Do your friends a favour and let them know that they are going wrong. I would expect the same for the rest of my friends on MFP. Be hard on me if you see a slice of Pizza or a McDonalds happy meal on my diary!
It's time to stop blindly congratulating people on making bad choices that can ultimately lead to lower quality of life and ultimately, death!
Edit: I know I sound grumpy and normally I am not. Just concerned that's all
Please send me a FR....so I can decline it.0 -
Does anyone honestly think a big Mac, large fry and coke is healthy? Stop trying to justify self destructive eating that causes obesity, it is an argument that can't be won. Successfully losing weight means eating nutritious foods without excessive calories, saturated fat and processed sugar. It is a simple formula that works when people learn to make better choices and stay out of the drive up lane. I am not the food police, I dont care if you eat it, but I won't applaud you for doing it.
I don't think anyone here is gonna argue and say "Woo-hoo! This is the healthiest thing in the world you can eat!". Yeah. No. But we live in the real world. Losing weight, keeping it off, and having a healthy lifestyle, means being able to balance eating foods that are nutritious, along with the occasional incorporation of what you want into your diet. Does that mean a chocolate bar, a slice of pizza, or Big Mac? Absolutely. That's what the difference is between someone who loses 100lbs + and keeps it off for life, and someone who deprives themselves of everything the once loved, only to fall off the wagon at the first bite of a french fry after a year, or that first bite of birthday cake. It's all about balance. If it fits into your daily caloric intake, and you're eating well, there's no reason you shouldn't enjoy something like a Big Mac, Pizza, Ice Cream, or otherwise.0 -
Please elaborate.
Elaborate on what? *scratches head with a blank look*:huh:
Elaborate in the snickers pleasure of course!
I'm thinking they might be hatin' on the Snickers, and needing details on the tastiness of it all. What's not to love about Chocolate AND peanuts? I gotta admit, I do like the almond ones, though. :drinker:
In all honesty I don't think I can elaborate. I was caught up in the ultimate foodgasmicality of it that my tastebuds lost consciousness and suppressed the memory. But...I know I enjoyed it.
For. Real! :happy: I'm thinking now I might have to go get me a Snickers Almond tomorrow and fit one in somewhere. I usually try to do those, or anything extra on Tuesdays, when I have ballet, but what the hay! If it fits in, it's all good!
*juvenilegigglegigglegiggle*
This is why we're friends :drinker:0 -
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