Why is MFP so mean??
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Because many users have been around for a while and get frustrated giving the same answers over and over again while the OP gets defensive because the responses were not what they expected.
i could give a **** less who says what to whom on the internet, but if this is really how people feel, whats the point in wasting the time to post?
if your like me its simply to waste time at work0 -
i think the bottom line is that a forum is a poor place to go to learn things, particularly on a subject like fitness where there typically isn't one clear cut answer on many aspects.
if people went into it understanding that all they really are going to get is opinions, maybe they would take those opinions less personally.0 -
Then why do it? Why keep opening and responding when it's so frustrating that you feel the need to be mean?
at least someone here displays common sense :laugh: :flowerforyou:
This, right here, the implication that no one else here has common sense, this is the kind of thing that causes the nice users to get fed up and start posting gifs. Yet we're the mean ones and you're the nice ones?
well, this is a "mean people defense thread", you are trying to justify being jerks to new people by saying you are frustrated with the question. common sense would suggest to simply close that thread again and not pick a fight, if the whole thing is so tiresome and frustrating to you.
99% are not jerks and do not pick fights. OPs just get butthurt when they get honest and direct answers they don't like. Common sense would be to listen to the majority of the advice, even if direct and not full of sugar, rainbows and unicorn poop, than to get all defensive and call everybody mean.
I disagree with this. If I listened to the majority of the advice I've been given on MFP so far I couldn't eat sugar, grains, or nightshade vegetables. I would need to eat high fat without eating oils and eat only lean meats. I shouldn't eat anything not organic but I shouldn't give up fast food.
This site is amusing, but OMG what a lot of nonsense.
Who the hell is giving out that kind of advice? From what I've seen the majority of the community defends all food in moderation, including sugar, grains and nightshade vegetables (even though I really don't know what that is?), fast food, oils, GMOs, etc. etc. That is the whole point of this website. Of course there are always those few special snowflakes who do defend what you just stated.
There are a lot of these special snowflakes, as you call them (which I imagine is not a nice nickname). I've been here less than a month, but I have been on the forums most days in that month and my experience has been that the majority think some foods should be avoided. Sometimes just one thing - sugar, usually. Sometimes so many things I can't even imagine what their they allow themselves to eat.
Once I was even told not to do cardio. Not that it wasn't necessary, that it was bad. Funny? A little, but honestly it's more like a train wreck. Horrifying, yet I can't look away.0 -
if people went into it understanding that all they really are going to get is opinions, maybe they would take those opinions less personally.
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Then why do it? Why keep opening and responding when it's so frustrating that you feel the need to be mean?
Many time these "mean" people are being honest, straight-forward, or just blunt. Not the same as being mean. Also having different opinions is often interpreted as being mean.
Perhaps. But some posts are just mean. Honest, straight-forward, right or wrong, is there ever a reason not to be nice?
Nice is overrated.
I disagree. Present your point in a nice friendly manner and it's far more likely to be considered. State your point in a mean or demeaning manner and it's highly unlikely that it will be given any heed at all.
Every single one of the helpful, nice posters on these boards has been called negative, mean, bully, troll, etc. at some point or another. Every single one who's been here long enough. It's hard to talk about the "mean people" and the "mean advice" when everything and everyone is called mean at some point or another.
Please, can we not turn this thread into an actual mean people thread? Because then I have to do my spiel about how mean people threads are actually discouraging those helpful users from posting advice.
I didn't turn it into a mean people thread. It started out as one. And I'm not talking about people being nice but being called mean. Mean is mean, no matter what you call it.
Was I being mean? I didn't intend to. I didn't even think I was being blunt. I was just trying to understand why people are mean.0 -
100% of the questions asked here are fully answerable by googling, or my using the MFP search box. 100% of them.
Those who answer with accurate information should be thanked, even if they're d!cks about it.0 -
if people went into it understanding that all they really are going to get is opinions, maybe they would take those opinions less personally.
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I disagree with this. If I listened to the majority of the advice I've been given on MFP so far I couldn't eat sugar, grains, or nightshade vegetables. I would need to eat high fat without eating oils and eat only lean meats. I shouldn't eat anything not organic but I shouldn't give up fast food.
This site is amusing, but OMG what a lot of nonsense.
Who the hell is giving out that kind of advice? From what I've seen the majority of the community defends all food in moderation, including sugar, grains and nightshade vegetables (even though I really don't know what that is?), fast food, oils, GMOs, etc. etc. That is the whole point of this website. Of course there are always those few special snowflakes who do defend what you just stated.
There are a lot of these special snowflakes, as you call them (which I imagine is not a nice nickname). I've been here less than a month, but I have been on the forums most days in that month and my experience has been that the majority think some foods should be avoided. Sometimes just one thing - sugar, usually. Sometimes so many things I can't even imagine what their they allow themselves to eat.
Once I was even told not to do cardio. Not that it wasn't necessary, that it was bad. Funny? A little, but honestly it's more like a train wreck. Horrifying, yet I can't look away.
I was going to stay out but this legitimately flies in the face of everything that I have read in the past 2 years. Some people will make the "claim" that you need to cut out certain foods, etc.. or that you must do one exercise to lose weight...or that a certain exercise (both strength or cardio) are bad for you, but that is normally met by a storm of MFPers (normally the mean ones) with all their data disproving such claims.0 -
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Thank you for that wonderful laugh!0 -
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There are a lot of these special snowflakes, as you call them (which I imagine is not a nice nickname). I've been here less than a month, but I have been on the forums most days in that month and my experience has been that the majority think some foods should be avoided. Sometimes just one thing - sugar, usually. Sometimes so many things I can't even imagine what their they allow themselves to eat.
Once I was even told not to do cardio. Not that it wasn't necessary, that it was bad. Funny? A little, but honestly it's more like a train wreck. Horrifying, yet I can't look away.
The internet is very much like a train wreck, that is true.0 -
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I disagree with this. If I listened to the majority of the advice I've been given on MFP so far I couldn't eat sugar, grains, or nightshade vegetables. I would need to eat high fat without eating oils and eat only lean meats. I shouldn't eat anything not organic but I shouldn't give up fast food.
This site is amusing, but OMG what a lot of nonsense.
Who the hell is giving out that kind of advice? From what I've seen the majority of the community defends all food in moderation, including sugar, grains and nightshade vegetables (even though I really don't know what that is?), fast food, oils, GMOs, etc. etc. That is the whole point of this website. Of course there are always those few special snowflakes who do defend what you just stated.
There are a lot of these special snowflakes, as you call them (which I imagine is not a nice nickname). I've been here less than a month, but I have been on the forums most days in that month and my experience has been that the majority think some foods should be avoided. Sometimes just one thing - sugar, usually. Sometimes so many things I can't even imagine what their they allow themselves to eat.
Once I was even told not to do cardio. Not that it wasn't necessary, that it was bad. Funny? A little, but honestly it's more like a train wreck. Horrifying, yet I can't look away.
I was going to stay out but this legitimately flies in the face of everything that I have read in the past 2 years. Some people will make the "claim" that you need to cut out certain foods, etc.. or that you must do one exercise to lose weight...or that a certain exercise (both strength or cardio) are bad for you, but that is normally met by a storm of MFPers (normally the mean ones) with all their data disproving such claims.
Oh, I'm not saying their isn't a lot of arguing on these points. That's usually when it gets "mean". I'm just saying my limited exerience has been more "don't eat this" posts.0 -
Sometimes, being mean is the only way to get a point across..0
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Sometimes, being mean is the only way to get a point across to the fundamentally stupid..0
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If MFP wasn't mean...
...then there would be no mean people threads...
...and no one, I say no one, would win at MFP bingo.0 -
Sometimes, being mean is the only way to get a point across to the fundamentally stupid..
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LOL!!! Smantha32 - that is great. You made me smile!0
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I disagree with this. If I listened to the majority of the advice I've been given on MFP so far I couldn't eat sugar, grains, or nightshade vegetables. I would need to eat high fat without eating oils and eat only lean meats. I shouldn't eat anything not organic but I shouldn't give up fast food.
This site is amusing, but OMG what a lot of nonsense.
Who the hell is giving out that kind of advice? From what I've seen the majority of the community defends all food in moderation, including sugar, grains and nightshade vegetables (even though I really don't know what that is?), fast food, oils, GMOs, etc. etc. That is the whole point of this website. Of course there are always those few special snowflakes who do defend what you just stated.
There are a lot of these special snowflakes, as you call them (which I imagine is not a nice nickname). I've been here less than a month, but I have been on the forums most days in that month and my experience has been that the majority think some foods should be avoided. Sometimes just one thing - sugar, usually. Sometimes so many things I can't even imagine what their they allow themselves to eat.
Once I was even told not to do cardio. Not that it wasn't necessary, that it was bad. Funny? A little, but honestly it's more like a train wreck. Horrifying, yet I can't look away.
I was going to stay out but this legitimately flies in the face of everything that I have read in the past 2 years. Some people will make the "claim" that you need to cut out certain foods, etc.. or that you must do one exercise to lose weight...or that a certain exercise (both strength or cardio) are bad for you, but that is normally met by a storm of MFPers (normally the mean ones) with all their data disproving such claims.
Oh, I'm not saying their isn't a lot of arguing on these points. That's usually when it gets "mean". I'm just saying my limited exerience has been more "don't eat this" posts.
then maybe you should give it a little bit longer.
the crazy extends MUCH further than your limited experience.0 -
OMG! That is freaking funny! I usually do not reply to these posts but you are cracking me up!0
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Oh, I'm not saying their isn't a lot of arguing on these points. That's usually when it gets "mean". I'm just saying my limited exerience has been more "don't eat this" posts.
So then I think you would be grateful to the MFP-ers who join the discussion to debunk whatever the myth of the day is, no?0 -
I disagree with this. If I listened to the majority of the advice I've been given on MFP so far I couldn't eat sugar, grains, or nightshade vegetables. I would need to eat high fat without eating oils and eat only lean meats. I shouldn't eat anything not organic but I shouldn't give up fast food.
This site is amusing, but OMG what a lot of nonsense.
Who the hell is giving out that kind of advice? From what I've seen the majority of the community defends all food in moderation, including sugar, grains and nightshade vegetables (even though I really don't know what that is?), fast food, oils, GMOs, etc. etc. That is the whole point of this website. Of course there are always those few special snowflakes who do defend what you just stated.
There are a lot of these special snowflakes, as you call them (which I imagine is not a nice nickname). I've been here less than a month, but I have been on the forums most days in that month and my experience has been that the majority think some foods should be avoided. Sometimes just one thing - sugar, usually. Sometimes so many things I can't even imagine what their they allow themselves to eat.
Once I was even told not to do cardio. Not that it wasn't necessary, that it was bad. Funny? A little, but honestly it's more like a train wreck. Horrifying, yet I can't look away.
I was going to stay out but this legitimately flies in the face of everything that I have read in the past 2 years. Some people will make the "claim" that you need to cut out certain foods, etc.. or that you must do one exercise to lose weight...or that a certain exercise (both strength or cardio) are bad for you, but that is normally met by a storm of MFPers (normally the mean ones) with all their data disproving such claims.
Oh, I'm not saying their isn't a lot of arguing on these points. That's usually when it gets "mean". I'm just saying my limited exerience has been more "don't eat this" posts.
then maybe you should give it a little bit longer.
the crazy extends MUCH further than your limited experience.
Yep, cuz there's a lot of people out there that believe it's true, even though the myths have been debunked times over.0 -
(sorry, it was too tempting)
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Then why do it? Why keep opening and responding when it's so frustrating that you feel the need to be mean?
Many time these "mean" people are being honest, straight-forward, or just blunt. Not the same as being mean. Also having different opinions is often interpreted as being mean.
Perhaps. But some posts are just mean. Honest, straight-forward, right or wrong, is there ever a reason not to be nice?
Nice is overrated.
Yup. And some of us are clearly chaotic evil
Lawful good usually gets further.
I can't wait until you've been around here for 2 years
we'll see how polite you are then.0 -
WTF is going on in here
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LOL!!! Smantha32 - that is great. You made me smile!
I stole the gif from the previous page.0 -
Then why do it? Why keep opening and responding when it's so frustrating that you feel the need to be mean?
Many time these "mean" people are being honest, straight-forward, or just blunt. Not the same as being mean. Also having different opinions is often interpreted as being mean.
I disagree. I saw one poor person discuss her opinions about sugar this morning and bam 8 or 9 pages of personality disordered evil. A few nights ago someone posted they might have realized they are drinking too much, and page after page of "just work it into your calories. I still drink (burp)" People need fitness for a lot of different reasons: some people are sick, some were never taught a decent relationship with food, or sugar, or alcohol. The OP suggests that the reason we came on here was to learn the truth which she then immediately conflates with accepting abuse. I just wish people would understand that you may prefer your truth administered with a hammer, but others have a right to their path as well. Mean people suck. :flowerforyou:0 -
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WTF is going on in here
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...and some gifs.0 -
im really happy it worked out so well for you, but remember that not everyone is the same way and some people get offended, discouraged and hurt when being personally attacked for no obvious reason. im not talking about people who say "youre doing it wrong, forget everything and do this instead", by all means, no need to sugar coat. im talking about people who go "*rolls eyes* oh god, another know-it-all who buys into this crap *insert gif*". thats not helpful, thats condescending.
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