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  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    Do you know what a butt wink is on a squat? If you know how to stop it could you tell me the answer.

    Watch this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3S5nrh9OF0&feature=em-subs_digest-vrecs

    Interesting well I will be testing my depth before I squat again. I also think that is where the squat belt can help you a little bit too.

    No. A belt doesn't prevent butt wink. I think you need to go off and do some research. Just wanted to remind you that this whole thing started over you stating "it only counts if it's ATG" and "toes can't go over knees". Now adding in the belt comment, I think you need to learn a lot more before trying to make absolute statements or giving advice.

    Also, it's one thing to go ATG with 135. It's something entirely different with an actual working weight (like I asked for video of). At least now you realize that due to structure and mechanics it is impossible to reach ATG with knees behind toes. I highly suggest for your own benefit you have someone record your squat sessions for a while.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    Do you know what a butt wink is on a squat? If you know how to stop it could you tell me the answer.

    Watch this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3S5nrh9OF0&feature=em-subs_digest-vrecs

    Interesting well I will be testing my depth before I squat again. I also think that is where the squat belt can help you a little bit too.

    No. A belt doesn't prevent butt wink. I think you need to go off and do some research. Just wanted to remind you that this whole thing started over you stating "it only counts if it's ATG" and "toes can't go over knees". Now adding in the belt comment, I think you need to learn a lot more before trying to make absolute statements or giving advice.

    Also, it's one thing to go ATG with 135. It's something entirely different with an actual working weight (like I asked for video of). At least now you realize that due to structure and mechanics it is impossible to reach ATG with knees behind toes. I highly suggest for your own benefit you have someone record your squat sessions for a while.

    My friend who used to go deep in squats decided not to anymore when he said there was like a little cracking noise in his hip. So he does not go deep anymore. I any going to study exercise science as a minor so sooner or later I will actually learn this stuff.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    My friend who used to go deep in squats decided not to anymore when he said there was like a little cracking noise in his hip. So he does not go deep anymore. I any going to study exercise science as a minor so sooner or later I will actually learn this stuff.

    I suggest sooner... rather than later

    I squat my heavy loads belted- still have a bit of butt wink. Belts are for helpinjg brace your abs- not for you butt wink.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    With my 200# bench set (did 3 at the end of my high volume work) today, I'm now at the following:

    Bench: 200
    Squat: 250 (Damn you knee, rehab!)
    Deadlift: 425

    So, 875. 125# to go.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    2) That pause was about 30 seconds since guy could not figure out a good angle and where to take the pic. I never done pause squat with anything more or I would of did it with something higher up.
    Practice them, they're a B.

    I was doing 225# of those for 3 sets at 5-7 reps per set last thursday. Don't do 30 seconds, 3-5 is fine to get all that tension out of your sweet hams.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    2) That pause was about 30 seconds since guy could not figure out a good angle and where to take the pic. I never done pause squat with anything more or I would of did it with something higher up.
    Practice them, they're a B.

    I was doing 225# of those for 3 sets at 5-7 reps per set last thursday. Don't do 30 seconds, 3-5 is fine to get all that tension out of your sweet hams.

    The guy using my phone did not know what he was doing when I already brought up the camera app. He couldn't find a good angle. He wanted me to just do another rep since he was lost using my phone which is four years old. I was like I am fine this pic was just for how my form was at the deepest I could go.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    and not to be nitpicky homie, but if you aren't doing squats like that, they may be the deepest you can go, but it's misleading because that isn't how you train.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    and not to be nitpicky homie, but if you aren't doing squats like that, they may be the deepest you can go, but it's misleading because that isn't how you train.

    I do my workouts Full range. If it cannot do it full range then I deload. That is how I train. Nothing is misleading. When I train for size and not strength then partial reps come into play to tear muscles a tab bit more then full range.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    and not to be nitpicky homie, but if you aren't doing squats like that, they may be the deepest you can go, but it's misleading because that isn't how you train.

    I do my workouts Full range. If it cannot do it full range then I deload. That is how I train. Nothing is misleading. When I train for size and not strength then partial reps come into play to tear muscles a tab bit more then full range.

    Then why are you on your toes? If you're going that deep with every squat, you should have the form set by now. Getting up on the forefoot like that isn't good for that drive up.

    Have you thought of using a block or something as a wedge so you can get back on to those heels?

    ETA - and wth does full range mean? ROM is different for everyone based on physio quirks.
  • jonlfischer
    jonlfischer Posts: 171 Member
    He guys/gals all that want to add me feel free. I have just recently started looking into powerlifting. Just happen to see this thread. I want some motivated strength training friends
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    and not to be nitpicky homie, but if you aren't doing squats like that, they may be the deepest you can go, but it's misleading because that isn't how you train.

    I do my workouts Full range. If it cannot do it full range then I deload. That is how I train. Nothing is misleading. When I train for size and not strength then partial reps come into play to tear muscles a tab bit more then full range.

    Then why are you on your toes? If you're going that deep with every squat, you should have the form set by now. Getting up on the forefoot like that isn't good for that drive up.

    Have you thought of using a block or something as a wedge so you can get back on to those heels?

    ETA - and wth does full range mean? ROM is different for everyone based on physio quirks.

    Im also not posing and pausing to be seeing by a camera too. LOL
    Full range motion from what I have read.
    bench
    all the way down to chest then up to lockout. I also never ask for lift off the rack( when being spotted which is only for max or if it feels heavier than normal).
    Deadlift
    All the way up. Standing with shoulder back.
    Squats
    I have notice that if I use box squat vs low squats that low squats is easier to rebound from to get back up.
  • Snip8241
    Snip8241 Posts: 767 Member
    My son was in the 1000 pound club in high school and college. I know what it takes to get there. I respect the process. I admire anyone that achieves the status.

    :smile:
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    He guys/gals all that want to add me feel free. I have just recently started looking into powerlifting. Just happen to see this thread. I want some motivated strength training friends

    You in the club bro?
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    and not to be nitpicky homie, but if you aren't doing squats like that, they may be the deepest you can go, but it's misleading because that isn't how you train.

    I do my workouts Full range. If it cannot do it full range then I deload. That is how I train. Nothing is misleading. When I train for size and not strength then partial reps come into play to tear muscles a tab bit more then full range.

    Then why are you on your toes? If you're going that deep with every squat, you should have the form set by now. Getting up on the forefoot like that isn't good for that drive up.

    Have you thought of using a block or something as a wedge so you can get back on to those heels?

    ETA - and wth does full range mean? ROM is different for everyone based on physio quirks.

    Im also not posing and pausing to be seeing by a camera too. LOL
    Full range motion from what I have read.
    bench
    all the way down to chest then up to lockout. I also never ask for lift off the rack( when being spotted which is only for max or if it feels heavier than normal).
    Deadlift
    All the way up. Standing with shoulder back.
    Squats
    I have notice that if I use box squat vs low squats that low squats is easier to rebound from to get back up.

    Sounds about right, as long as that "low squat" is below parallel. I still get up on to the balls of my feet, it's a fault I'm working on, getting those heels raised helps a lot.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    I feel like tommorow I'm going to be doing video on work squat V's front squat V's pause squats. Because.

    ALL THE SQUATS.... ALL THE TIME!
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    ****ing pause squats. As much as a pain as the pause bench presses I've been doing.
  • jonlfischer
    jonlfischer Posts: 171 Member
    He guys/gals all that want to add me feel free. I have just recently started looking into powerlifting. Just happen to see this thread. I want some motivated strength training friends

    You in the club bro?

    Yup. Bench 385, dead 450, squat 350...I know my bench is higher than my squat...been nursing a back injury.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    He guys/gals all that want to add me feel free. I have just recently started looking into powerlifting. Just happen to see this thread. I want some motivated strength training friends

    You in the club bro?

    Yup. Bench 385, dead 450, squat 350...I know my bench is higher than my squat...been nursing a back injury.

    Jealous. I'd love a bench even 100# lighter.
  • paj315
    paj315 Posts: 335 Member
    I'm not near the 1000# club but I'm a girl so I doubt I'll ever get there!

    I'm at 670# but haven't tested maxes since April.

    Bench Press- 120
    Squat 250
    DL 300

    My goal is to get my DL to 315 by the end of the year! And yes my bench is embarrassing but I do strongman so bench isnt all that important, I tend to focus on my log press!
  • Shawshankcan
    Shawshankcan Posts: 900 Member
    335 paused bench
    585 dead
    535 squat (585 with knee wraps)
    495x9 deadlift in a comp.
  • refuseresist
    refuseresist Posts: 934 Member
    100lb club on a good day lol
  • jonlfischer
    jonlfischer Posts: 171 Member
    I just started Wendlers 5/3/1 this morning going to see how it goes.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    I just started Wendlers 5/3/1 this morning going to see how it goes.

    I see lots of gains with this program. I do the t nation version of 5,3,1.
  • jonlfischer
    jonlfischer Posts: 171 Member
    I just started Wendlers 5/3/1 this morning going to see how it goes.

    I see lots of gains with this program. I do the t nation version of 5,3,1.

    I have the ebook for the original but i am going to alternate my assitance work
  • No_Finish_Line
    No_Finish_Line Posts: 3,661 Member

    No. A belt doesn't prevent butt wink. I think you need to go off and do some research. Just wanted to remind you that this whole thing started over you stating "it only counts if it's ATG" and "toes can't go over knees". Now adding in the belt comment, I think you need to learn a lot more before trying to make absolute statements or giving advice.

    Also, it's one thing to go ATG with 135. It's something entirely different with an actual working weight (like I asked for video of). At least now you realize that due to structure and mechanics it is impossible to reach ATG with knees behind toes. I highly suggest for your own benefit you have someone record your squat sessions for a while.

    squat is apparently one lift where my highschool gym really lead me astray lol.

    i'm confused by "toes can't go over knees". I"m thinking your talking about the statement often heard 'your knees should not extend past your toes'.

    Are you just saying that you couldn't get super low, like and inch off the ground, without extending your knees beyond your toes?

    or are you also saying that its not a safety concern at all?
  • natecooper75
    natecooper75 Posts: 72 Member

    I have the ebook for the original but i am going to alternate my assitance work

    If you have the chance, pick up the Beyond 5/3/1 ebook. I think it will answer a lot of the questions you may have with the program and it addresses some issues that Wendler himself said needed to be fixed. Since you are interested in powerlifting, there is also a 5/3/1 for Powerlifting version. I haven't read that one but it seems like a good read for a potential competitive powerlifter.
  • CoachChris78
    CoachChris78 Posts: 30 Member
    I've been chasing it for ges now but since I'm always trying to cut weight I've never ahd the diet to really up my lifts

    Bench = 231
    Squat = 265
    Deads = 353

    total = 849
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member

    No. A belt doesn't prevent butt wink. I think you need to go off and do some research. Just wanted to remind you that this whole thing started over you stating "it only counts if it's ATG" and "toes can't go over knees". Now adding in the belt comment, I think you need to learn a lot more before trying to make absolute statements or giving advice.

    Also, it's one thing to go ATG with 135. It's something entirely different with an actual working weight (like I asked for video of). At least now you realize that due to structure and mechanics it is impossible to reach ATG with knees behind toes. I highly suggest for your own benefit you have someone record your squat sessions for a while.

    squat is apparently one lift where my highschool gym really lead me astray lol.

    i'm confused by "toes can't go over knees". I"m thinking your talking about the statement often heard 'your knees should not extend past your toes'.

    Are you just saying that you couldn't get super low, like and inch off the ground, without extending your knees beyond your toes?

    or are you also saying that its not a safety concern at all?

    Yopeeps was indicating that your toes must remain behind the knees and cannot extend past that. It's false, you should not restrict your knees to stay behind your toes (there were several links posted earlier that talk about why).

    It is impossible to get super low (ATG) without your knees extending past your toes. It is mechanically impossible, you will end up on your butt or face.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    squat is apparently one lift where my highschool gym really lead me astray lol.

    i'm confused by "toes can't go over knees". I"m thinking your talking about the statement often heard 'your knees should not extend past your toes'.

    Read Rippetoe on squats in starting strength.
  • fpsmoto
    fpsmoto Posts: 31
    1000 lb club? I'm more like in the 100lb club cuz my arms are weak as hell. :(
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