Clean Eating
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yopeeps025 wrote: »acorsaut89 wrote: »If you eat a regular diet it will, for the most part, be a clean diet. I do not eat processed foods, usually, and I cook for myself every day including meal prep for breakfasts and lunches on Sundays. I feel as though most people who eat regular balanced diets eat pretty clean, and if they want to go out and have a burger and a beer then let them.
PS - if you try to do this 100% clean from eating processed or highly refined foods for 8 weeks you will more than likely go stir crazy. Try to do like 75% clean and 25% dirty or something.
What are these dirty foods you speak of?
Unwashed produced. Unwashed hands handling food. Cleaning that up is clean eating I can get behind! Then again, a little grit in my baked potato adds some nice texture. I guess it's dirty eating for me! That, and the dirty beer I wash it down with.
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I would never eat "clean," but I do eat about 80-90% whole as a side effect of loving to cook. I even make my own pasta.
Meanwhile, I think that people who insist on eating "clean" and attempt to drag others with them should start with some clean, raw, unprocessed cashews.0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »Why not just eat less calories for 8 weeks.
^^^this^^^
I ate pizza, doritos, ice cream, and sanchos this weekend and I drank some bourbon. I logged another 2.2 lbs down this morning. Down 23 so far. Eating clean is not in my vocabulary. If you aren't enjoying the journey, you are bound to yo-yo again. The secret is just not consuming more than your body needs. The secret does NOT include putting yourself through hell.0 -
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Two things that concern me:
1. You have more than one stomach
2. Where can you find meat in a box, that sounds like some crazy *kitten*0 -
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I am no longer reading this posts or replying to this board. I am utterly discouraged by the feedback presented in this discussion board.
This post was never meant to be a discussion over who is correct or what is right.
It was about My choice and my decision.
I asked for others who are trying the same program to add me. Nothing more, nothing less.0 -
thornborrow193 wrote: »I am no longer reading this posts or replying to this board. I am utterly discouraged by the feedback presented in this discussion board.
This post was never meant to be a discussion over who is correct or what is right.
It was about My choice and my decision.
I asked for others who are trying the same program to add me. Nothing more, nothing less.
This is an internet discussion forum. It's meant for discussion. You will never be able to control what people post as part of the discussion. People can disagree. It's really ok.0 -
1) No burgers -- I buy pastured beef from a local farm, some I buy ground. Why is that unclean? I don't even usually eat it on a bun (personal preference, not because I think buns are unclean). Same re sausages.
Oh, I also sometimes drink diet coke. Guess I could switch to all coffee all the time, since that doesn't seem to count as "unclean" ('cause it's unprocessed?) and has even more caffeine.
2) Max of 1 TBSP of refined sugar a day -- I don't feel like counting, but I usually only have some if I have ice cream, which no doubt is unclean anyway, right? I do make other exceptions, though, depending. I see no reason to eliminate homemade pie from my diet, for example, especially since it's only offered to me rarely or if I bother to bake it, which usually requires a holiday (and I think some might be coming up, I dunno).
3) I typically cook my own meals for breakfast and dinner, why is lunch special? Anyway, I've been cooking lunch but decided not to today. The place I will probably buy lunch from uses similar ingredients to those I would, though--my issue is that it's a waste of money, not different food. Why is this unclean? Also, if I'm invited for dinner at one of those places that list the farms they get produce from and claim to be all local and blah, blah (which I actually love, because I'm annoying like that), should I refuse to go because I'm trying to be "clean"? Again, why would that food be dirty? (Because the people who run it are often kind of crunchy, you mean?)
4) Why does the portion I eat or the number of meals I eat make my food "clean" or "unclean"? I like eating 3 meals, so I guess I'm just a dirty girl (somehow I thought it would require something more interesting to get that label, but if eating 3 meals does it, eh).
5) I am confused here, because I thought I did eat whole foods, mostly, but the advise seems to be telling me to eat stuff in cans and jars, pre packaged bread (so long as it's "brown"--which might not even mean whole grain), and "lean meats" (which could mean I'm ditching a good cut available from the farm I purchase from in favor of some extremely processed skinless, boneless chicken breast).
Overall, there seems to be a confusion here between what is lowest calorie and what is least processed, which is not always the same thing. Depending on the circumstances, I sometimes prefer fewer calories (lowfat yogurt, say) and sometimes not (I also like full fat dairy). Also, some odd addition of pointless, outdated diet advise about eating lots of irritating mini meals, which has nothing to do with anything.
I am not just trying to be a pain, I really would love for these questions to be addressed.0 -
thornborrow193 wrote: »I only adddd the photo
As of today I am doing the above but an 8 week challenge.
I am hoping I can find others who are trying clean eating.
I premade all of my breakfasts, snacks and lunches for the week and bought the meat and veggies for every day to ensure I do not open a box at dinner time.
I need to make a change!
I dislike your pic defining "clean eating" (even though its pretty much how I eat), but I do have to applaud you for actually having a plan for making a change to your diet. That's rare for the clean eating bandwagon. Eating less meals out of a box, and more perishable foods is always a good idea.
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How would coffee be clean? Even if you buy whole beans, aren't they roasted? I've never see raw coffee for sale.0
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thornborrow193 wrote: »I am no longer reading this posts or replying to this board. I am utterly discouraged by the feedback presented in this discussion board.
This post was never meant to be a discussion over who is correct or what is right.
It was about My choice and my decision.
I asked for others who are trying the same program to add me. Nothing more, nothing less.
dont be so sensitive.
hows your weight loss going without doing the "clean eating challenge"?
if it's going well, why change anything?
if it's not, i can assure you that it's not eating "dirty" that is the problem.
what do you think is going to happen by doing this challenge for 8 weeks?
i am legitimately curious.0 -
thornborrow193 wrote: »I am no longer reading this posts or replying to this board. I am utterly discouraged by the feedback presented in this discussion board.
This post was never meant to be a discussion over who is correct or what is right.
It was about My choice and my decision.
I asked for others who are trying the same program to add me. Nothing more, nothing less.
If this is what you are looking for why not browse the groups and find one that focuses on what you define as "clean" eating?
If you post about a controversial subject on the main forum you are going to get a lot of discussion, some of which you will not like.0 -
I would totally be into doing this, My one problem food will be greek yogurt. I just bought a whole bunch of them to get me through the week ...
otherwise, my fridge is full of clean foods - picked up a whole bunch of broccoli crowns (99Cents a lb) - and a head of cauliflower, and some acorn squash, and a butternut squash ... and, I have some lamb meat, and pork tenderloin, and some grassfed beef ... and a whole bunch of different cheeses. Wegman's has the best cheese department ever...
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Two things that concern me:
1. You have more than one stomach
2. Where can you find meat in a box, that sounds like some crazy *kitten*
Really, this is ok?
Lots of food comes out of a box where additives and artificial colours and flavours are added.
I do not eat shake and bake. I add basil and oregano that I purchase from the farmers market.
I do not drink pop at all.
I do not add sugar to my coffee or eat lunches from lean cuisine.
I choose to make my own meals from the produce I buy or the meat that I purchase.
Again, MY CHOICE.
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I new to MFP. I was not aware of the controversial nature of this post.
I am just starting out. I joined last week.
Today I wish I never did.0 -
cooking from whole ingrediants helps to not eat processed foods...
For instance, I cooked dinner last night, I sauteed onion, radishes, and broccoli in a mix of coconut oil and ghee. I added ground pork.
My problem with the dish came when I added bottled mustard. - If I had made mustard with the spices and vinegar it would have remained clean - but, the packaged version with possible added chemicals instead of natural 'understandable' ingrediants become a fail.
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Eating 100% clean is hard for this reason (for me). I'm lazy to make my own sauces, sometimes - and relying on store-bought mustard, mayo, or ketchup, or other sauces allows us to take in added refined sugars, corn syrups or other types of chemicals that clean eaters like to stay away from.
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thornborrow193 wrote: »I new to MFP. I was not aware of the controversial nature of this post.
I am just starting out. I joined last week.
Today I wish I never did.
its always best to do some reading before posting.
no need to regret joining.
just take it as a lesson for the future. this is a public forum, so while you may not necessarily have WANTED opinions, chances are good youre going to get them - regardless of the subject matter.
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thornborrow193 wrote: »I new to MFP. I was not aware of the controversial nature of this post.
I am just starting out. I joined last week.
Today I wish I never did.
It's not that big a deal. Just don't revisit the thread and you won't have to see the replies anymore. I just think people are trying to open your eyes (especially a person who says they are new to the site) to realize that eating with limitations isn't the end all be all of weight loss.
I would especially recommend to you to just focus on your calories and not what foods you are eating. Take small steps, and then once those because second nature to you, then you can run, metaphorically speaking.
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hollydubs85 wrote: »thornborrow193 wrote: »I new to MFP. I was not aware of the controversial nature of this post.
I am just starting out. I joined last week.
Today I wish I never did.
It's not that big a deal. Just don't revisit the thread and you won't have to see the replies anymore. I just think people are trying to open your eyes (especially a person who says they are new to the site) to realize that eating with limitations isn't the end all be all of weight loss.
I would especially recommend to you to just focus on your calories and not what foods you are eating. Take small steps, and then once those because second nature to you, then you can run, metaphorically speaking.
I agree although nutritious foods can help easily with the calorie deficit. Mind as well kind of attack both issues.
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Just curious.....what do you do if you go on vacations and no kitchen available?? How about birthday parties with cake and ice cream are served?? It's all part of life, I eat about 80% healthy foods and 20% of awesome foods like chocolate, ice cream, cookies, etc.
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »How would coffee be clean? Even if you buy whole beans, aren't they roasted? I've never see raw coffee for sale.
I always wonder that, but it never seems to be excluded. I assume it's part of how you get to define "clean" to mean whatever.
Once upon a time I was fascinated by locovorism, but coffee would definitely be a sticking point (along with a number of other things). At least it's more consistent than the "clean" stuff, though, and doesn't have a name that's intended to insult others.0 -
Eating unprocessed foods did make me feel better (I did it for 6 months last year) and lost 35 lbs. Then I caved with the holidays and unsupporting family/friends. But now my arthritis is back and I have gained back some of the weight. So... I am here to support those who want to make the switch. It does take effort/time and you can expect lots of ignorant comments. By ignorance I mean, they truly do not understand, how or why.
Preservatives, hormone additives, coloring, etc. are man made, so of course they are not good for us. Fast food do make life easier, and we live in a fast world. But I am going to give it a go again with clean eating because I do not want to rely on prescriptions to get me through the rest of my life. The way I eat should be something I control.0 -
It is not that serious to wish you had never did. MFP is a great tool. You will get plenty of great information from posting and reading the forums. You may not like the comments in this thread, but it is a discussion board. This is what happens on the internet.thornborrow193 wrote: »I new to MFP. I was not aware of the controversial nature of this post.
I am just starting out. I joined last week.
Today I wish I never did.
Do not take it so personal. Everyone, including you are entitled to their own opinions and choices. Yes, it is your choice, but that does not mean that people will not freely speak their opinions of that said choice.
If eating "clean" is what you prefer to do, then do it and be happy. With that said it is not necessary for weight loss. If you are not making the choice for strictly medical reasons and only for the purpose of weight loss, then you will get much feedback in regards to that.
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thornborrow193 wrote: »Really, this is ok?
Lots of food comes out of a box where additives and artificial colours and flavours are added.
I do not eat shake and bake. I add basil and oregano that I purchase from the farmers market.
I do not drink pop at all.
I do not add sugar to my coffee or eat lunches from lean cuisine.
I choose to make my own meals from the produce I buy or the meat that I purchase.
Again, MY CHOICE.
Engage your calm, there's no need to throw fisticuffs.
I'm glad you're empowered and making a choice and farmer's market and other buzzwords.
Whatever floats your boat, just try to have a sense of humor. The clean eating thing has been discussed ad nauseam, at this point it's just mental m@sturbation.
I eat meat, but I hate violence so I buy it from the store, in a package. The idea of going out to a cow in a field and sending it to steak heaven seems a little dark, but more power to you for doing it yourself, sister.
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thornborrow, welcome to MPF - sorry your first posts are showing you a side of MPF that doesn't seem as warm and cuddly as we'd all wish it to be.
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Don't give up on MPF though, it's a great tool. The food and exercise tracker makes it easier to stay controlled when you use them regularly. Eventually, if you give us a try, and post to the intro board to collect some friends - as they are really good to have, when you're looking for a kick in the pants, and some added motivation.
Feel free to friend me and talk whole foods all you want.
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GiveMeCoffee wrote: »1. Nah I like my diet soda a couple times a week.. burgers???
2. 1 tablespoon of sugar?? Why?? How will I bake if I stick to that?
3. I cook my own meals 90% of the time - because I love to cook & bake
4. 5-6 meals why??? I prefer 1-2 meals a day and what's this "right food" stuff?
5. Why am I switching from white to brown?? I prefer white rice...
Why do you have to make this change? What are you thinking is going to happen if you do this for 8 weeks? I wouldn't survive a week let alone 8 ..
I have the same questions...0 -
Big_Bob_Lob wrote: »hollydubs85 wrote: »Go easy on the OP. She's only had 9 posts, and I doubt she expected this kind of response.
Word! OP, Please understand this is an oft posted, highly debated topic on here. A lot of what you read might cause you to bristle, but understand that it's not personal, or aimed at you. It's said in response to the concept, and between many who have debated this with each other before. And certainly take care to try and see those who legitimately question the concept and try not to see their posts as coming across with any implied vitriol.
This +100
Giving you the benefit of the doubt OP. They get very excited over this subject and you even provided a diagram which will add to the turbo frothing. Try it, but understand why you are doing it and dont make any claims about this version of clean eating that you cnat back up. It angers them.
Oh I just saw your post. Please dont worry about them and carry on with the site. You matter to you and they dont. If you want to follow that plan then do so, but still remember to lose weight you need to consume less than you burn, be that chocolate and burgers or organic fuit, veg and meat. You need a consistent deficit.0 -
thornborrow193 wrote: »I new to MFP. I was not aware of the controversial nature of this post.
I am just starting out. I joined last week.
Today I wish I never did.
There's really no need to be taking this so personally. No one is telling you what to eat. No one is judging you, they are commenting on a diet plan. Diet plans don't have feelings.
Listen, I get it. You're excited about a new program and you want it to work. We all have that. We all have our things that we love that other people don't like so much. Trust me, there's rarely a week that goes by here that I don't see an anti-CrossFit post. I love CrossFit. It's my jam. But, hey, if people don't like it, that's their choice. I'm not going to take it personally because they aren't judging me as a person, they are judging a workout.
I do me. They do them. We all co-exist just fine. Don't let differing opinions derail you. If you do, that just means your convictions weren't as strong as you thought.0 -
RoseyDgirl wrote: »cooking from whole ingrediants helps to not eat processed foods...
Why do you need help not eating processed foods? That's what I don't get--do they come up and say "eat me"?
I sometimes eat processed foods (cheese is processed, of course), but never by accident.
I enjoy mostly cooking from whole foods, though. Sometimes I include processed foods (cheese, olive oil, coconut oil, etc.) with whole foods when cooking. It's kind of transgressive, I know.0
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