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Fed Up Documentary
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eatmindfully wrote: »
The facts are in the movie. And in everything in the scientific journals that tells you a plant based diet is the best for overall health and cancer prevention. Sorry if you find that threatening. yeash. Enjoy being so right all the time
Please show me one credible source that shows that a plant based diet is better for health and cancer prevention, just one, and please please please don't show me a correlation study.0 -
no I don't…
society has an overeating/laziness problem…sugar has nothing to do with it.
I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.0 -
Our society? No.
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It's really sad to me that all these so-called "documentaries" and theories which point to an outside source (carbs, sugar, processed foods, meat, etc.) and blames that source for weight gain gets so many followers who are ready to embrace a crutch rather than take personal responsibility for their own actions. *sigh*
I agree with your point about blaming others...but your argument is like saying there is nothing wrong with heroin, and in fact it should be legal so people, who can moderate their heroin usage, can do so at their leisure.
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I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.
An addict will do anything in order to feed their addiction. If what you say is true, then sugar addicts would be stealing sweets from the store, stealing money to buy sweets, and digging sweets out of the trash. And it wouldn't be just certain sweets...it would be any sweets. People who claim to be addicted to sugar will put away an entire chocolate cake "because of their addiction" but turn down a carrot cake because it's not their favorite. They will eat a whole box of doughnuts, but have no problem saying no to a soda that, for example, is the store brand instead of a name brand.
It is not an addiction if it is selective.
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I agree with your point about blaming others...but your argument is like saying there is nothing wrong with heroin, and in fact it should be legal so people, who can moderate their heroin usage, can do so at their leisure.
Are you REALLY comparing heroin to sugar, and are you suggesting that sugar should be illegal because people can't control themselves around it? The absurdity!0 -
Please show me one credible source that shows that a plant based diet is better for health and cancer prevention, just one, and please please please don't show me a correlation study.
I can show at least one that indicate that milk is very good for LBM retention in women who resistance train
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eatmindfully wrote: »
The facts are in the movie. And in everything in the scientific journals that tells you a plant based diet is the best for overall health and cancer prevention. Sorry if you find that threatening. yeash. Enjoy being so right all the time
What facts are these?
No, everything in the scientific journals does NOT tell you eating vegan and staying away from processed foods or refined sugar is best for overall health and cancer prevention.
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Are you REALLY comparing heroin to sugar, and are you suggesting that sugar should be illegal because people can't control themselves around it? The absurdity!
Are you trying to argue that there's nothing wrong with sugar ?
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SanteMulberry wrote: »
I am 5 years older...and I do not have this issue.
Oh wait, I have lucky genetics.
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The problem isn't with sugar, the problem is with people who can't control themselves.0 -
I can show at least one that indicate that milk is very good for LBM retention in women who resistance train
I've seen every argument from vegans about why animal products are bad for you, and they're all laughable. Animal based protein sources have the best and most complete amino acid profile that you can find anywhere. Yes most animal based foods come with cholesterol, but as we know, dietary cholesterol has a very small impact on blood cholesterol levels. The most hilarious piece of vegan propaganda that I've ever seen is "Forks over Knives". I literally laughed out loud while watching it.0 -
yes, I believe we are.
over consumption of calories leads to obesity….
you can get 100% of your diet from sugar, be in a deficit, and lose weight. Just google the twinkie diet….0 -
SnuggleSmacks wrote: »
An addict will do anything in order to feed their addiction. If what you say is true, then sugar addicts would be stealing sweets from the store, stealing money to buy sweets, and digging sweets out of the trash.
It is not an addiction if it is selective.
The addict does not have to steal from the store. Food/drink with sugar is plentiful at the store and it is very, very low cost... so why would any one steal something that is everywhere ?
People do many things to feed that addiction... such as choosing to not eat healthy and instead eat foods that are heavy in sugar, not drink water and instead drink fountain soda after fountain soda, etc.
People are choosing to do that no doubt, but people also choose to do heroin, crack, and cocaine.
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The problem isn't with sugar, the problem is with people who can't control themselves.
So heroin is ok then ?-1 -
I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.
Many people overeat due to highly palatable convenient food. Often highly palatable = calorie dense.
Why does sugar always get the blame? They add fats to make food more palatable also.
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So heroin is ok then ?
I don't get how you think using that argument is ok? That's downright disgraceful...0 -
So heroin is ok then ?
so your saying that heroin = sugar???????0 -
The addict does not have to steal from the store. Food/drink with sugar is plentiful at the store and it is very, very low cost... so why would any one steal something that is everywhere ?
People do many things to feed that addiction... such as choosing to not eat healthy and instead eat foods that are heavy in sugar, not drink water and instead drink fountain soda after fountain soda, etc.
People are choosing to do that no doubt, but people also choose to do heroin, crack, and cocaine.
Comparing sugar to drugs is a false equivalence.0 -
yes, I believe we are.
over consumption of calories leads to obesity….
you can get 100% of your diet from sugar, be in a deficit, and lose weight. Just google the twinkie diet….
there are no essential nutrients in sugar.
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so your saying that heroin = sugar???????
I'm saying that if there is nothing wrong with the object... and it's strictly on the person.. then why is heroin illegal ?
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that has nothing to do with whether it is addictive or not ..
actually, the guy that did the twinkie diet lost weight and had better health markers….go figure…but you know, sugar...0 -
Comparing sugar to drugs is a false equivalence.
How so ?
They're both extremely addicting and will cause harm to your body up to resulting in death.
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The addict does not have to steal from the store. Food/drink with sugar is plentiful at the store and it is very, very low cost... so why would any one steal something that is everywhere ?
People do many things to feed that addiction... such as choosing to not eat healthy and instead eat foods that are heavy in sugar, not drink water and instead drink fountain soda after fountain soda, etc.
People are choosing to do that no doubt, but people also choose to do heroin, crack, and cocaine.
When was the last time you saw someone who had voided themselves and/or dead in the streets from sugar?
Your last statement is one of the most ignorant ones I have seen. Do you realize how physically addictive crack is?
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How so ?
They're both extremely addicting and will cause harm to your body up to resulting in death.
please find me the one person that has died from OD'ing on sugar…..0
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