An obese nutritionist: would you be her patient?
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JeffseekingV wrote: »marinabreeze wrote: »Regardless of what the issue is for *many* people, that doesn't mean that you can take a look at someone and know their story.
I don't want to know their story.
I'm shopping for a service, and want to make the best quick decision I can. That means, all else being equal, picking the person who most looks like the job.
would you take driving lessons from an old Chinese lady?
Probably not.
Speak English, dammit!
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This is the corollary to "don't trust a skinny chef," but she may the world's smartest nutritionist and suffer from some medical condition or medication side effect that prevents her from losing weight. Would you trust an anorexic nutritionist more?0
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SweatLikeDog wrote: »This is the corollary to "don't trust a skinny chef," but she may the world's smartest nutritionist and suffer from some medical condition or medication side effect that prevents her from losing weight. Would you trust an anorexic nutritionist more?
Should anorexics insist on obese nutritionists, so they have proof she knows how to gain weight?0 -
I wouldn't trust a tone deaf person to be a vocal coach, so no.0
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levitateme wrote: »Technically I am obese. I'm not picturing Pendlay, or anyone else who is "technically" obese when reading this question. I'm picturing someone who can't stand up long enough to do a normal grocery shopping.
I am obese (BMI just over 40) and not only can I stand up long enough to grocery shop, I work 30hrs/week at a physically active job (on my feet constantly, always moving, climbing ladders, lifting and moving heavy items like bikes, trampolines and basketball hoops).
I found that a slightly offensive assumption.
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coasterphile wrote: »I wouldn't trust a tone deaf person to be a vocal coach, so no.
lolz, that metaphor b flat.0 -
coasterphile wrote: »I wouldn't trust a tone deaf person to be a vocal coach, so no.
Would you trust a deaf person to write a symphony?0 -
coasterphile wrote: »I wouldn't trust a tone deaf person to be a vocal coach, so no.
lolz, that metaphor b flat.
HAH. That was a good chuckle
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JeffseekingV wrote: »coasterphile wrote: »I wouldn't trust a tone deaf person to be a vocal coach, so no.
Would you trust a deaf person to write a symphony?
I'm waiting for someone to say no to this.
Waiting...
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JeffseekingV wrote: »coasterphile wrote: »I wouldn't trust a tone deaf person to be a vocal coach, so no.
Would you trust a deaf person to write a symphony?
I'm waiting for someone to say no to this.
Waiting...
But I believe he hid the fact that he was deaf, didn't he? Even he feared what people learning that he had lost his hearing would do to his profession.0 -
JeffseekingV wrote: »coasterphile wrote: »I wouldn't trust a tone deaf person to be a vocal coach, so no.
Would you trust a deaf person to write a symphony?
In any situation, there are always exceptions. Beethoven wrote some pretty good music in the Late Period, so yeah, I can trust a deaf person to write a symphony.0 -
ithrowconfetti wrote: »JeffseekingV wrote: »coasterphile wrote: »I wouldn't trust a tone deaf person to be a vocal coach, so no.
Would you trust a deaf person to write a symphony?
In any situation, there are always exceptions. Beethoven wrote some pretty good music in the Late Period, so yeah, I can trust a deaf person to write a symphony.
So because one exceptional person was able to produce the 9th symphony you would let every deaf person who studied music attempt to wright a symphony for you? Would you judge them on the same level as their hearing competators?0 -
It would really depend how big they were. Overweight but still healthy and fit looking then sure no problem. If they looked like a contestant for the biggest loser then no way - I would struggle to be inspired by someone who for whatever reason doesn't embody the lifestyle they're instructing you on. Lead by example and all that0
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JeffseekingV wrote: »JeffseekingV wrote: »No it doesn't. Being thin does not make the person necessarily healthy, knowledgeable about nutrition or in particularly good shape.
Nowhere did I claim that it did.
Yes you did. "look the part". Captain! Engage deflectors on full power!
How do you "look the part"? Resemble a vegetable?
I give up.
Cheers.
This whole argument is entirely silly. Mr. Knight didn't say thin people are more qualified than obese people. He said he wouldn't trust an obese person to be his nutritionist, because this is an example of a person who has all the knowledge but can't put it into practice. I wouldn't trust that person either. I don't like hypocrites.
I don't understand why some people are so butthurt about differing opinions.
AND seriously loling forever at the "deaf person writing a symphony" because Beethoven did it. You know Beethoven wasn't born deaf right? He also wasn't completely deaf until very late in his life, so he heard music and knew how notes sounded before he went deaf.
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levitateme wrote: »You know Beethoven wasn't born deaf right? He also wasn't completely deaf until very late in his life, so he heard music and knew how notes sounded before he went deaf.
Are all obese people that way from birth or can circumstances change over time?
I know I am being a little glib here but people spend more time researching what TV to buy than something much more important in my opinion - someone who can assist them with health and nutrition.
Perhaps if we tried to eliminate our biases and spent a little more time looking at matters we would identify the best person for the job on actual merit, who could in fact be exceptional, be they slim or not.
Wishful thinking may be but it is better than sitting back and saying "oh well, that's just the way it is" in my view.
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levitateme wrote: »You know Beethoven wasn't born deaf right? He also wasn't completely deaf until very late in his life, so he heard music and knew how notes sounded before he went deaf.
Are all obese people that way from birth or can circumstances change over time?
I know I am being a little glib here but people spend more time researching what TV to buy than something much more important in my opinion - someone who can assist them with health and nutrition.
Perhaps if we tried to eliminate our biases and spent a little more time looking at matters we would identify the best person for the job on actual merit, who could in fact be exceptional, be they slim or not.
Wishful thinking may be but it is better than sitting back and saying "oh well, that's just the way it is" in my view.
People just want to argue. Beethoven was a musical genius. Is every single obese person the Michaelangelo of food and I'm just missing out because I am close-minded?
I could have easily ended up 400 lbs, but I didn't because I took control of myself. For this reason, I wouldn't trust someone who is 400 lbs to tell me what to eat no matter how much education they had. That's about all I have on the matter.
I wouldn't hire any nutritionist though. I even cut my own hair, if that helps.
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This thread has wasted pages of arguments over who would judge base off looks in this situation.0
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levitateme wrote: »You know Beethoven wasn't born deaf right? He also wasn't completely deaf until very late in his life, so he heard music and knew how notes sounded before he went deaf.
Are all obese people that way from birth or can circumstances change over time?
I know I am being a little glib here but people spend more time researching what TV to buy than something much more important in my opinion - someone who can assist them with health and nutrition.
Perhaps if we tried to eliminate our biases and spent a little more time looking at matters we would identify the best person for the job on actual merit, who could in fact be exceptional, be they slim or not.
Wishful thinking may be but it is better than sitting back and saying "oh well, that's just the way it is" in my view.
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levitateme wrote: »levitateme wrote: »You know Beethoven wasn't born deaf right? He also wasn't completely deaf until very late in his life, so he heard music and knew how notes sounded before he went deaf.
Are all obese people that way from birth or can circumstances change over time?
I know I am being a little glib here but people spend more time researching what TV to buy than something much more important in my opinion - someone who can assist them with health and nutrition.
Perhaps if we tried to eliminate our biases and spent a little more time looking at matters we would identify the best person for the job on actual merit, who could in fact be exceptional, be they slim or not.
Wishful thinking may be but it is better than sitting back and saying "oh well, that's just the way it is" in my view.
People just want to argue. Beethoven was a musical genius. Is every single obese person the Michaelangelo of food and I'm just missing out because I am close-minded?
I could have easily ended up 400 lbs, but I didn't because I took control of myself. For this reason, I wouldn't trust someone who is 400 lbs to tell me what to eat no matter how much education they had. That's about all I have on the matter.
I wouldn't hire any nutritionist though. I even cut my own hair, if that helps.
Sure and that's fair enough. Ultimately everyone will make the choices they want and do what they believe is best for them.
I don't think debating an issue or arguing is necessarily a bad thing, if done well. It gives us access to other ideas we may not have considered. We don't have to choose to accept them.
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ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »levitateme wrote: »You know Beethoven wasn't born deaf right? He also wasn't completely deaf until very late in his life, so he heard music and knew how notes sounded before he went deaf.
Are all obese people that way from birth or can circumstances change over time?
I know I am being a little glib here but people spend more time researching what TV to buy than something much more important in my opinion - someone who can assist them with health and nutrition.
Perhaps if we tried to eliminate our biases and spent a little more time looking at matters we would identify the best person for the job on actual merit, who could in fact be exceptional, be they slim or not.
Wishful thinking may be but it is better than sitting back and saying "oh well, that's just the way it is" in my view.
Undoubtedly and as a rational consumer you would opt for the healthy weight nutritionist in that scenario.
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