An obese nutritionist: would you be her patient?
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Physician, heal thyself!0
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I would actually trust their advice more than a nutritionist who has never experienced being overweight. First hand experience with the issue means less preaching and more first hand grasp on the challenges of weight loss, regardless if they chose to tackle them themselves or not. At least I won't get the usual canned responses and speeches about willpower.
If I ever go to a nutritionist (I doubt I ever will), I would be going for knowledge, experience, and proven results with other clients. Looking for role models would be at the very bottom of my list.0 -
Dietitians work with much more than just people who need to lose weight.
They also advise anorexics, burn patients, cancer patients, etc. They cannot possibly be eating all the different diets that exist at the same time.
It's just ridiculous to say that they must practice what they preach.0 -
I'll think on it the day I actually get an obese nutritionist.0
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marinabreeze wrote: »Regardless of what the issue is for *many* people, that doesn't mean that you can take a look at someone and know their story.
I don't want to know their story.
I'm shopping for a service, and want to make the best quick decision I can. That means, all else being equal, picking the person who most looks like the job.
would you take driving lessons from an old Chinese lady?0 -
JeffseekingV wrote: »marinabreeze wrote: »Regardless of what the issue is for *many* people, that doesn't mean that you can take a look at someone and know their story.
I don't want to know their story.
I'm shopping for a service, and want to make the best quick decision I can. That means, all else being equal, picking the person who most looks like the job.
would you take driving lessons from an old Chinese lady?
Probably not.
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JeffseekingV wrote: »marinabreeze wrote: »Regardless of what the issue is for *many* people, that doesn't mean that you can take a look at someone and know their story.
I don't want to know their story.
I'm shopping for a service, and want to make the best quick decision I can. That means, all else being equal, picking the person who most looks like the job.
would you take driving lessons from an old Chinese lady?
Probably not.
But you'd take nutritional information from a thin person. Even though being thin in no way qualifies them as being a nutritionist.0 -
JeffseekingV wrote: »JeffseekingV wrote: »marinabreeze wrote: »Regardless of what the issue is for *many* people, that doesn't mean that you can take a look at someone and know their story.
I don't want to know their story.
I'm shopping for a service, and want to make the best quick decision I can. That means, all else being equal, picking the person who most looks like the job.
would you take driving lessons from an old Chinese lady?
Probably not.
But you'd take nutritional information from a thin person. Even though being thin in no way qualifies them as being a nutritionist.
Is it your job to continually fail at reading comprehension?
At no point did I ever say anything resembling "I would take nutritional advice from a thin person because they're thin."
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lol0
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JeffseekingV wrote: »JeffseekingV wrote: »marinabreeze wrote: »Regardless of what the issue is for *many* people, that doesn't mean that you can take a look at someone and know their story.
I don't want to know their story.
I'm shopping for a service, and want to make the best quick decision I can. That means, all else being equal, picking the person who most looks like the job.
would you take driving lessons from an old Chinese lady?
Probably not.
But you'd take nutritional information from a thin person. Even though being thin in no way qualifies them as being a nutritionist.
Is it your job to continually fail at reading comprehension?
At no point did I ever say anything resembling "I would take nutritional advice from a thin person because they're thin."
Yes you did.I don't want to know their story.
I'm shopping for a service, and want to make the best quick decision I can. That means, all else being equal, picking the person who most looks like the job.
You just said you wouldn't take nutritional advice from an obese person. Then you stated that you would pick the person that most LOOKS like the job.
What's left?
I see the
coming on again.0 -
JeffseekingV wrote: »JeffseekingV wrote: »JeffseekingV wrote: »marinabreeze wrote: »Regardless of what the issue is for *many* people, that doesn't mean that you can take a look at someone and know their story.
I don't want to know their story.
I'm shopping for a service, and want to make the best quick decision I can. That means, all else being equal, picking the person who most looks like the job.
would you take driving lessons from an old Chinese lady?
Probably not.
But you'd take nutritional information from a thin person. Even though being thin in no way qualifies them as being a nutritionist.
Is it your job to continually fail at reading comprehension?
At no point did I ever say anything resembling "I would take nutritional advice from a thin person because they're thin."
Yes you did.I don't want to know their story.
I'm shopping for a service, and want to make the best quick decision I can. That means, all else being equal, picking the person who most looks like the job.
You just said you wouldn't take nutritional advice from an obese person. Then you stated that you would pick the person that most LOOKS like the job.
Good grief. Nowhere in what you just quoted did I make a blanket statement about not taking advice from an obese person.
Let me say it again, more slowly this time...
If I'm given the choice between two nutritionists, neither of which I know much about, I will pick the one who looks healthy over the one who looks like they're a heart attack waiting to happen.
I have to ask...are you really having this much trouble understanding, or am I being trolled?
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JeffseekingV wrote: »JeffseekingV wrote: »JeffseekingV wrote: »marinabreeze wrote: »Regardless of what the issue is for *many* people, that doesn't mean that you can take a look at someone and know their story.
I don't want to know their story.
I'm shopping for a service, and want to make the best quick decision I can. That means, all else being equal, picking the person who most looks like the job.
would you take driving lessons from an old Chinese lady?
Probably not.
But you'd take nutritional information from a thin person. Even though being thin in no way qualifies them as being a nutritionist.
Is it your job to continually fail at reading comprehension?
At no point did I ever say anything resembling "I would take nutritional advice from a thin person because they're thin."
Yes you did.I don't want to know their story.
I'm shopping for a service, and want to make the best quick decision I can. That means, all else being equal, picking the person who most looks like the job.
You just said you wouldn't take nutritional advice from an obese person. Then you stated that you would pick the person that most LOOKS like the job.
Good grief. Let me say it again, more slowly this time...
If I'm given the choice between two nutritionists, neither of which I know much about, I will pick the one who looks healthy over the one who looks like they're a heart attack waiting to happen.
Way to deflect. If one is obese and one is thin, which one are you picking? The thin one. Even though her being thin really has nothing to do with her qualifications.0 -
JeffseekingV wrote: »JeffseekingV wrote: »JeffseekingV wrote: »JeffseekingV wrote: »marinabreeze wrote: »Regardless of what the issue is for *many* people, that doesn't mean that you can take a look at someone and know their story.
I don't want to know their story.
I'm shopping for a service, and want to make the best quick decision I can. That means, all else being equal, picking the person who most looks like the job.
would you take driving lessons from an old Chinese lady?
Probably not.
But you'd take nutritional information from a thin person. Even though being thin in no way qualifies them as being a nutritionist.
Is it your job to continually fail at reading comprehension?
At no point did I ever say anything resembling "I would take nutritional advice from a thin person because they're thin."
Yes you did.I don't want to know their story.
I'm shopping for a service, and want to make the best quick decision I can. That means, all else being equal, picking the person who most looks like the job.
You just said you wouldn't take nutritional advice from an obese person. Then you stated that you would pick the person that most LOOKS like the job.
Good grief. Let me say it again, more slowly this time...
If I'm given the choice between two nutritionists, neither of which I know much about, I will pick the one who looks healthy over the one who looks like they're a heart attack waiting to happen.
Way to deflect. If one is obese and one is thin, which one are you picking? The thin one. Even though her being thin really has nothing to do with her qualifications.
Yes, it does, and I've already explained why.
If your criteria don't include that - it's fine with me. Pick however you like, makes no difference to me.
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No it doesn't. Being thin does not make the person necessarily healthy, knowledgeable about nutrition or in particularly good shape.0
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JeffseekingV wrote: »No it doesn't. Being thin does not make the person necessarily healthy, knowledgeable about nutrition or in particularly good shape.
Nowhere did I claim that it did.
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JeffseekingV wrote: »No it doesn't. Being thin does not make the person necessarily healthy, knowledgeable about nutrition or in particularly good shape.
Nowhere did I claim that it did.
Yes you did. "look the part". Captain! Engage deflectors on full power!
How do you "look the part"? Resemble a vegetable?0 -
goddessofawesome wrote: »Yep. It's much easier to preach than to practice. Doesn't mean she/he doesn't know what they're talking about.
No, but looking as though you take your own advice lends a bit of credibility. Would you go to a dentist who tells you how important oral hygiene is, that you have to brush and floss when they themselves have no teeth?
Having good oral hygiene can hardly be compared to being overweight. It's quite simple to maintain good oral hygiene- brush your teeth and floss every now and visit your dentist twice a year and then and you're good (genetics also contribute to oral health). So, if my dentist can't seem to brush his teeth a couple times a day or floss every now and then, I might question his credibility.
However, as we all know, maintaining a healthy weight and fitness level is a smidge more of a challenge. It's not as simple as "oh, just eat this many calories and exercise and you'll be healthy, ta da!". Emotions are involved in maintaining a healthy lifestyle and aid in the process of packing on pounds, as well as medical conditions, etc. Oral hygiene, not so much- you basically just brush your teeth. (I do understand some people are afraid of the dentist, etc., but that's not what I mean). If it were as simple to maintain a healthy weight/fitness level, this website would not exist.
I am an intelligent person with a decent amount of knowledge about health and fitness and weight loss, but I, myself, am 100 pounds overweight. Doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. I understand that someone might question my credibility and that's their prerogative, but the OP's question was "would YOU" be her patient. And yes, I would, because I am aware that there are other factors involved.
You're over thinking this process. Because yes- it is that simple.
The steps are very simple.
eat less
move more.
It's quiet simple, outside of extreme medical conditions, to not be so excessively over weight.
the whole reason this website exists is people over complicate it and make it about their emotions. Once they realize they aren't eating their emotions- or they get over their bad guilt/whatever hang ups over food- the pieces fall in to place. But again- maintaining a reasonable weight range and getting an hour or so of activity weekly is completely manageable and reasonable.0 -
JeffseekingV wrote: »JeffseekingV wrote: »No it doesn't. Being thin does not make the person necessarily healthy, knowledgeable about nutrition or in particularly good shape.
Nowhere did I claim that it did.
Yes you did. "look the part". Captain! Engage deflectors on full power!
How do you "look the part"? Resemble a vegetable?
I give up.
Cheers.
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JeffseekingV wrote: »JeffseekingV wrote: »No it doesn't. Being thin does not make the person necessarily healthy, knowledgeable about nutrition or in particularly good shape.
Nowhere did I claim that it did.
Yes you did. "look the part". Captain! Engage deflectors on full power!
How do you "look the part"? Resemble a vegetable?
I give up.
Cheers.
Yes you need to give up, because as you said, you are making the decision purely on aesthetics and you want someone that "looks" the part.0 -
JeffseekingV wrote: »marinabreeze wrote: »Regardless of what the issue is for *many* people, that doesn't mean that you can take a look at someone and know their story.
I don't want to know their story.
I'm shopping for a service, and want to make the best quick decision I can. That means, all else being equal, picking the person who most looks like the job.
would you take driving lessons from an old Chinese lady?
Probably not.
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JeffseekingV wrote: »marinabreeze wrote: »Regardless of what the issue is for *many* people, that doesn't mean that you can take a look at someone and know their story.
I don't want to know their story.
I'm shopping for a service, and want to make the best quick decision I can. That means, all else being equal, picking the person who most looks like the job.
would you take driving lessons from an old Chinese lady?
Probably not.
Speak English, dammit!
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This is the corollary to "don't trust a skinny chef," but she may the world's smartest nutritionist and suffer from some medical condition or medication side effect that prevents her from losing weight. Would you trust an anorexic nutritionist more?0
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SweatLikeDog wrote: »This is the corollary to "don't trust a skinny chef," but she may the world's smartest nutritionist and suffer from some medical condition or medication side effect that prevents her from losing weight. Would you trust an anorexic nutritionist more?
Should anorexics insist on obese nutritionists, so they have proof she knows how to gain weight?0 -
I wouldn't trust a tone deaf person to be a vocal coach, so no.0
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levitateme wrote: »Technically I am obese. I'm not picturing Pendlay, or anyone else who is "technically" obese when reading this question. I'm picturing someone who can't stand up long enough to do a normal grocery shopping.
I am obese (BMI just over 40) and not only can I stand up long enough to grocery shop, I work 30hrs/week at a physically active job (on my feet constantly, always moving, climbing ladders, lifting and moving heavy items like bikes, trampolines and basketball hoops).
I found that a slightly offensive assumption.
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coasterphile wrote: »I wouldn't trust a tone deaf person to be a vocal coach, so no.
lolz, that metaphor b flat.0 -
coasterphile wrote: »I wouldn't trust a tone deaf person to be a vocal coach, so no.
Would you trust a deaf person to write a symphony?0 -
coasterphile wrote: »I wouldn't trust a tone deaf person to be a vocal coach, so no.
lolz, that metaphor b flat.
HAH. That was a good chuckle
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JeffseekingV wrote: »coasterphile wrote: »I wouldn't trust a tone deaf person to be a vocal coach, so no.
Would you trust a deaf person to write a symphony?
I'm waiting for someone to say no to this.
Waiting...
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JeffseekingV wrote: »coasterphile wrote: »I wouldn't trust a tone deaf person to be a vocal coach, so no.
Would you trust a deaf person to write a symphony?
I'm waiting for someone to say no to this.
Waiting...
But I believe he hid the fact that he was deaf, didn't he? Even he feared what people learning that he had lost his hearing would do to his profession.0
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