Discouraged by trace calories...
neversummer7
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So I have been trying to lose weight and I know it takes time and patience but this is what my days look like
Weekdays: treadmill for 1.5 hours at 3.1 mph at 10% incline =330 calories burned
Food: tortilla with cheese: 240 calories
Poptarts crips: 60 cals
Fiber one cereal (3 servings dry no milk) 240
Sugar free pudding 60 cals
Box of Special K crackers 385 cals
Salad 80 cals
Walden farms ranch dressing 0 cals
Carrots with walden farms ranch: 175 cals
1540 cals total
Weekends: 1 hour treadmill 3.1 mph 10% incline= 220 cals burned
3 servings cocoa puffs dry 300 cals
Bag of apples and grapes 200 cals
Carrots with walden farms dressing 175 cals
3 serving of cocoa puffs 300 cals
Bag of apples and grapes 200 cals
Carrots with dressing 175
Total 1400 cals
I drink a lot of water with zero calorie mio water enhancer maybe 10 bottles of water per day
And I use a lot of the dressing sometimes a bottle per day if I have salad
I recently heard about tracable calories with "zero calorie" products. Am I going to gain from the amount of zero calorie products since I didn't count them before?
Weekdays: treadmill for 1.5 hours at 3.1 mph at 10% incline =330 calories burned
Food: tortilla with cheese: 240 calories
Poptarts crips: 60 cals
Fiber one cereal (3 servings dry no milk) 240
Sugar free pudding 60 cals
Box of Special K crackers 385 cals
Salad 80 cals
Walden farms ranch dressing 0 cals
Carrots with walden farms ranch: 175 cals
1540 cals total
Weekends: 1 hour treadmill 3.1 mph 10% incline= 220 cals burned
3 servings cocoa puffs dry 300 cals
Bag of apples and grapes 200 cals
Carrots with walden farms dressing 175 cals
3 serving of cocoa puffs 300 cals
Bag of apples and grapes 200 cals
Carrots with dressing 175
Total 1400 cals
I drink a lot of water with zero calorie mio water enhancer maybe 10 bottles of water per day
And I use a lot of the dressing sometimes a bottle per day if I have salad
I recently heard about tracable calories with "zero calorie" products. Am I going to gain from the amount of zero calorie products since I didn't count them before?
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WAAAAAAAAAAY overthinking...
That being said, a whole bottle of dressing is going to have calories in!0 -
WHERE IS YOUR PROTEIN? Good god, I'd gnaw my arm off eating all those empty calories.
To answer your question though - no. But for the love of all that's holy, fix your nutrition before you crash.
The End.0 -
Something like walden farms has calories but less then 5 per serving which allows them to label it as zero. If you are paranoid, then count eat serving as 5 calories. Agree with others though, I'd up the protein content of your diet for sure!0
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The calories in Mio are likely negligible. If it makes you feel better about it though, they should have information online about calories per large dose. Like there are x amount of calories in 3 servings but in one set ing it is less than 5 and therefore not required to report it. Or if you can find the info, you can quick add 5 cals everytime you have a serving (FDA does not require under 5cals per serving to be listed, so 5 is the max one serving could be).
On a side note, I know I personally do not like plain water and quite often drink tea or vitamin water zero. I truly believe it is everyone's personal choice how they get their fluid. That said, I just wanted to point out that Mio is the only flavor additive that when transporting large quantities requires a hazardous materials placard. Crystal light, Lipton, s apple, vitamin water etc packets that you add to water do not. It's because Mio contains propylene glycol. If that sounds familiar it is because it can be used as antifreeze (although not as dangerous as ethylene glycol). While FDA says they consider safe for human consumption (and can be found in several medication solutions that do not dissolve in water- like Valium for IV administration), I'm not sure if they have done studies looking at long term use. As I said, I believe everyone should be able to choose what they think is best for them, but they have shown large quantities (although hard to do but possible) can cause toxicity. If it were me, I'd use a flavor add that does not require a hazmat label when being shipped.0 -
What's with all the cocoa puffs? If this works for you then go for it. I'd have the worst poos on this diet...0
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The calories in Mio are likely negligible. If it makes you feel better about it though, they should have information online about calories per large dose. Like there are x amount of calories in 3 servings but in one set ing it is less than 5 and therefore not required to report it. Or if you can find the info, you can quick add 5 cals everytime you have a serving (FDA does not require under 5cals per serving to be listed, so 5 is the max one serving could be).
On a side note, I know I personally do not like plain water and quite often drink tea or vitamin water zero. I truly believe it is everyone's personal choice how they get their fluid. That said, I just wanted to point out that Mio is the only flavor additive that when transporting large quantities requires! a hazardous materials placard. Crystal light, Lipton, s apple, vitamin water etc packets that you add to water do not. It's because Mio contains propylene glycol. If that sounds familiar it is because it can be used as antifreeze (although not as dangerous as ethylene glycol). While FDA says they consider safe for human consumption (and can be found in several medication solutions that do not dissolve in water- like Valium for IV administration), I'm not sure if they have done studies looking at long term use. As I said, I believe everyone should be able to choose what they think is best for them, but they have shown large quantities (although hard to do but possible) can cause toxicity. If it were me, I'd use a flavor add that does not require a hazmat label when being shipped.
Good to know thank you!!!0 -
neversummer7 wrote: »The calories in Mio are likely negligible. If it makes you feel better about it though, they should have information online about calories per large dose. Like there are x amount of calories in 3 servings but in one set ing it is less than 5 and therefore not required to report it. Or if you can find the info, you can quick add 5 cals everytime you have a serving (FDA does not require under 5cals per serving to be listed, so 5 is the max one serving could be).
On a side note, I know I personally do not like plain water and quite often drink tea or vitamin water zero. I truly believe it is everyone's personal choice how they get their fluid. That said, I just wanted to point out that Mio is the only flavor additive that when transporting large quantities requires! a hazardous materials placard. Crystal light, Lipton, s apple, vitamin water etc packets that you add to water do not. It's because Mio contains propylene glycol. If that sounds familiar it is because it can be used as antifreeze (although not as dangerous as ethylene glycol). While FDA says they consider safe for human consumption (and can be found in several medication solutions that do not dissolve in water- like Valium for IV administration), I'm not sure if they have done studies looking at long term use. As I said, I believe everyone should be able to choose what they think is best for them, but they have shown large quantities (although hard to do but possible) can cause toxicity. If it were me, I'd use a flavor add that does not require a hazmat label when being shipped.
Good to know thank you!!!
The only reason I even know this was my ex drove 18wheelers for a living. He was actually quite shocked that Mio needed a hazmat placard so decided to look into it. Granted it is mostly kids and pets with accidental exposure that reach toxic levels, but still a little concerning in my opinion. I know you can protect yourself from all things that can hurt you, but it was one of those things I kind of raised an eyebrow to and was like nope lol. I do not wish to add overpriced flavored antifreeze to my water lol, especially when there are other options, some of which I personally think taste better. I personally like many of the crystal light flavors, but I have an allergy to red dye #40 so have to be careful. I know propel also makes flavors and I saw snapple and Lipton in that isle the other day as well.0 -
pincushion14 wrote: »WHERE IS YOUR PROTEIN? Good god, I'd gnaw my arm off eating all those empty calories.
To answer your question though - no. But for the love of all that's holy, fix your nutrition before you crash.
The End.
Agreed. Nothing but sugary carbs. No protein? No fat? Yeesh. I'd be starving0 -
Your weekday calories add up to 1220 not 1540 so I really hope you just forgot something there, but if not, I second the call to eat some more protein and fat.0
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Your weekday calories add up to 1220 not 1540 so I really hope you just forgot something there, but if not, I second the call to eat some more protein and fat.
Oh yeah I forgot 300 calorie popcorn to my weekday lol doesn't cheese and cereal have fats? And dot carrots have protein and fruit?0 -
Cheese has some fats, cereal usually does not have that much. Carrots and fruit do not contain hardly any protein at all. Your overall diet seems to be very heavy on carbs and light on fats and woefully low on protein.0
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You are waaaaaay overthinking this. Even wit h trace extra calories, they're literally going to have no noticable affect on you or weight loss. Remember, you would have to consume approximately 3500 calories OVER what your body needs to MAINTAIN to gain any weight.0
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Remember, you would have to consume approximately 3500 calories OVER what your body needs to MAINTAIN to gain any weight.
No. If you consume 3500 over maintenance, you'll gain a pound. Consume half that, and you'll gain half a pound.
OP: I'm not sure where you're getting your ideas about nutrition, but they're incorrect. 100 grams of carrots have 41 calories but only 0.93 g of protein, about 0.24 g of fat, and 9.58 g of carbs, including 4.74 g of sugar. You can look up the nutritional content of foods on the USDA's nutritional database.
Fruits and vegetables are mostly carbohydrates, with some fat (except for avocadoes, artichokes, and a few other fatty fruits).
You get protein from meat, cheese, eggs, nuts, and legumes. You can also get it from wheat gluten, which is the main ingredient in seitan and the various mock meats often used in Chinese cuisines.0 -
Are carbs bad?0
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no0
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Yeesh. This cereal and crackers diet would make me quit MFP quickly. Where's the protein and (non-carrot) veggies?0
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fix that diet young lady.0
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Don't over think it. Focus on fueling your body instead. Currently, you're not. Even starting with the government's "my plate" would be better than how you're approaching it now. Give that site a look.
(assuming you don't KNOW how to eat right, if you do, do that, it's worth it)
good luck!0 -
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Yeah I meant a pound would be 3500 calories. I blame pregnancy brain. It's one of those days...
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neversummer7 wrote: »Your weekday calories add up to 1220 not 1540 so I really hope you just forgot something there, but if not, I second the call to eat some more protein and fat.
Oh yeah I forgot 300 calorie popcorn to my weekday lol doesn't cheese and cereal have fats? And dot carrots have protein and fruit?
Sounds like you need to do some serious reading about nutrition.0 -
neversummer7 wrote: »
I think the concern is that you don't have any real protein in your diet, and very little variety on vegetables....I know me personally....if I ate a diet close to yours would find myself starved even though hitting 1400-1500 cals that you listed, and would find myself losing faith that MFP works in a way that would help me. Filling up w/ protein and fiber and fat seems to carry me over a little better, and I feel like I am better fueled for workouts. There is nothing wrong with a carb heavy diet...if it works for you so be it....but you may want to re-evaluate and make some "better" decisions about what your taking in! Best of luck to you!0 -
I'd be ravenous eating how she does. And cranky as hell.neversummer7 wrote: »
I think the concern is that you don't have any real protein in your diet, and very little variety on vegetables....I know me personally....if I ate a diet close to yours would find myself starved even though hitting 1400-1500 cals that you listed, and would find myself losing faith that MFP works in a way that would help me. Filling up w/ protein and fiber and fat seems to carry me over a little better, and I feel like I am better fueled for workouts. There is nothing wrong with a carb heavy diet...if it works for you so be it....but you may want to re-evaluate and make some "better" decisions about what your taking in! Best of luck to you!
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neversummer7 wrote: »
I think what everyone is getting at is that yeah, you'll lose weight, but you'll feel terrible and be hungry all the time, and you definitely aren't fueling your body properly.
Do a little googling on what good sources of fat and protein are....it will help greatly in the long run.0 -
neversummer7 wrote: »Are carbs bad?
no...the point people are trying to make is that you are seriously lacking in balanced nutrition. Protein and fat are both very important macro-nutrients...far more important than carbs. You're getting trace amounts of dietary fat from some dairy, but not nearly enough...your protein is seriously lacking.0 -
I got light-headed reading what you eat. I don't know how you fuel those long cardio sessions (which seem a little low on the calorie burn) without protein.
Your diet brings to mind the types of food a picky eater would select. Are you a picky eater? Is there any source of protein that you like? Remember that just because you're trying to lose weight that you don't need to eliminate all fat. What do your macros look like? You should be eating a balance of carbs, fat, and protein.
Do you like yogurt? Peanut butter? Cheese? Most picky eaters like those things. Incorporate them now instead of the sugary cereal.0 -
I think people are trying to tell you that while your diet may achieve your caloric goals it doesn't seem to make sense from a nutritional standpoint. I'm not a nutritionist but suffice it to say that your body needs carbs, fat and protein to function properly. The amount of each that you east can be dependent on your fitness goals. But it's probably not a good idea to make any of those amounts 0.
If you are doing a bunch of cardio and are at a caloric deficit, you will lose weight. But because you aren't replenishing your body with protein, you will lose more and more muscle. That will make you "skinny fat" and will you appear "soft" and actually bigger than someone who is the same weight but more lean. If you are losing weight and eating protein you can try to preserve the muscle you have so that your bodyfat% decreases as you lose weight. The consensus is that you cannot build muscle while losing weight...
All the things you eat don't seem to be very filling. I am having a hard time believing that you don't understand why you are getting comments. If you're for real, I think you should balance out what you eat. If you are a vegan or vegetarian then you can eat beans, tofu, etc to get protein. You can have nuts and oils for fats. I think you would be more satisfied if you tried this.
And also, you can add strength training and probably cut down on some of the cardio with similar (if not better) results.
Try researching on the internet for more info. If there is a certain body type you're looking for then maybe research the diets of people who look like that.
Good luck.0 -
I think people are trying to tell you that while your diet may achieve your caloric goals it doesn't seem to make sense from a nutritional standpoint. I'm not a nutritionist but suffice it to say that your body needs carbs, fat and protein to function properly. The amount of each that you east can be dependent on your fitness goals. But it's probably not a good idea to make any of those amounts 0.
If you are doing a bunch of cardio and are at a caloric deficit, you will lose weight. But because you aren't replenishing your body with protein, you will lose more and more muscle. That will make you "skinny fat" and will you appear "soft" and actually bigger than someone who is the same weight but more lean. If you are losing weight and eating protein you can try to preserve the muscle you have so that your bodyfat% decreases as you lose weight. The consensus is that you cannot build muscle while losing weight...
All the things you eat don't seem to be very filling. I am having a hard time believing that you don't understand why you are getting comments. If you're for real, I think you should balance out what you eat. If you are a vegan or vegetarian then you can eat beans, tofu, etc to get protein. You can have nuts and oils for fats. I think you would be more satisfied if you tried this.
And also, you can add strength training and probably cut down on some of the cardio with similar (if not better) results.
Try researching on the internet for more info. If there is a certain body type you're looking for then maybe research the diets of people who look like that.
Good luck.
thank you i don't want to be skinny fat haha i just want to look ok
but if i were to add fats or protein would that slow down my process of weight loss? 0 -
NO, unless you ate too many calories.neversummer7 wrote: »I think people are trying to tell you that while your diet may achieve your caloric goals it doesn't seem to make sense from a nutritional standpoint. I'm not a nutritionist but suffice it to say that your body needs carbs, fat and protein to function properly. The amount of each that you east can be dependent on your fitness goals. But it's probably not a good idea to make any of those amounts 0.
If you are doing a bunch of cardio and are at a caloric deficit, you will lose weight. But because you aren't replenishing your body with protein, you will lose more and more muscle. That will make you "skinny fat" and will you appear "soft" and actually bigger than someone who is the same weight but more lean. If you are losing weight and eating protein you can try to preserve the muscle you have so that your bodyfat% decreases as you lose weight. The consensus is that you cannot build muscle while losing weight...
All the things you eat don't seem to be very filling. I am having a hard time believing that you don't understand why you are getting comments. If you're for real, I think you should balance out what you eat. If you are a vegan or vegetarian then you can eat beans, tofu, etc to get protein. You can have nuts and oils for fats. I think you would be more satisfied if you tried this.
And also, you can add strength training and probably cut down on some of the cardio with similar (if not better) results.
Try researching on the internet for more info. If there is a certain body type you're looking for then maybe research the diets of people who look like that.
Good luck.
thank you i don't want to be skinny fat haha i just want to look ok but if i were to add fats or protein would that slow down my process of weight loss?
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neversummer7 wrote: »thank you i don't want to be skinny fat haha i just want to look ok but if i were to add fats or protein would that slow down my process of weight loss?
Nope! If anything, it should help speed up the process, because you'll have a meal plan you can stick to more easily for longer without feeling hungry all the time, and because you'll be properly fueling your body to allow you to exercise more.
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