Discouraged by trace calories...

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  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    segacs wrote: »
    thank you i don't want to be skinny fat haha i just want to look ok :) but if i were to add fats or protein would that slow down my process of weight loss?

    Nope! If anything, it should help speed up the process, because you'll have a meal plan you can stick to more easily for longer without feeling hungry all the time, and because you'll be properly fueling your body to allow you to exercise more.

    QFT
  • simplydelish2
    simplydelish2 Posts: 726 Member
    While the calories in vs. calories out will work for weight loss...your eating plan lacks nutrition. You need protein to retain/increase muscle mass.
  • Stormy_Monday
    Stormy_Monday Posts: 81 Member
    WHERE IS YOUR PROTEIN? Good god, I'd gnaw my arm off eating all those empty calories.

    To answer your question though - no. But for the love of all that's holy, fix your nutrition before you crash.

    The End.

    Agreed. Up your protein and watch your sugar.
  • GingerbreadCandy
    GingerbreadCandy Posts: 403 Member
    edited December 2014
    Quick note to everyone saying the OP is not eating following a proper diet – while I agree with the sentiment, I think it would be more useful if you linked her to a good nutrition websites or gave her some quick pointers on how to improve her diet rather than "just do it". It is hard to know where to start especially considered the amount of unreliable **** out there.

    ETA: Wrote this when there were only eight replies to the OPs original question.

    (I am sorry, all nutrition websites I know to be reliable I have on my hands are in German… )
    Aemely wrote: »
    Yeesh. This cereal and crackers diet would make me quit MFP quickly. Where's the protein and (non-carrot) veggies?
    Why would it make you quit myp? Lol is it a diet that would make me gain or lose slowly (if losing at all?)

    It's not about the weight loss, per se. It is about the nutrients you are taking in. You list a whole lot of sugary carbs in your diet, when the body also needs fats and protein.

    Look, in terms of simple weight loss, it is purely a matter of calories in vs calories out. If the calories you are eating are less than what you expend, you will lose weight. Whether the calories are composed of carrots or doritos won't make a difference.

    However, just in terms of fuelling your body properly so that you aren't constantly hungry, it makes a huge difference. The body takes up nutrients in three forms – fats, carbs and proteins. In order to function properly you need to eat all three.

    If on top of that you wish to lead a healthier lifestyle and not just lose weight, then you definitely need to start looking more into nutrition and how to eat properly.

    I have only just started to properly look into the matter, so I cannot give you more specific information without the risk of me saying something awfully stupid. Other people here have looked into nutrition much longer and will be able to give you more detailed information and send you to some good websites. Most of the time I try to hit the protein, carbs and fat daily requirements MFP gives me, and refer to this: http://www.tasteofthemed.com/images/mdp.jpg

    Incidentally, that last pyramid comes from the MedDiet which has been shown several times to be a healthy one. Depending on your needs, goals and preferences though, it might not be the right one, so I'd suggest you inform yourself a bit and then chat a bit with some people here to figure out what would work best for you.
  • astrose00
    astrose00 Posts: 754 Member
    astrose00 wrote: »
    I think people are trying to tell you that while your diet may achieve your caloric goals it doesn't seem to make sense from a nutritional standpoint. I'm not a nutritionist but suffice it to say that your body needs carbs, fat and protein to function properly. The amount of each that you east can be dependent on your fitness goals. But it's probably not a good idea to make any of those amounts 0.

    If you are doing a bunch of cardio and are at a caloric deficit, you will lose weight. But because you aren't replenishing your body with protein, you will lose more and more muscle. That will make you "skinny fat" and will you appear "soft" and actually bigger than someone who is the same weight but more lean. If you are losing weight and eating protein you can try to preserve the muscle you have so that your bodyfat% decreases as you lose weight. The consensus is that you cannot build muscle while losing weight...

    All the things you eat don't seem to be very filling. I am having a hard time believing that you don't understand why you are getting comments. If you're for real, I think you should balance out what you eat. If you are a vegan or vegetarian then you can eat beans, tofu, etc to get protein. You can have nuts and oils for fats. I think you would be more satisfied if you tried this.

    And also, you can add strength training and probably cut down on some of the cardio with similar (if not better) results.

    Try researching on the internet for more info. If there is a certain body type you're looking for then maybe research the diets of people who look like that.

    Good luck.

    thank you i don't want to be skinny fat haha i just want to look ok :) but if i were to add fats or protein would that slow down my process of weight loss?

    I agree with the previous poster. I think you need to do a lot of research about nutrition, exercise and weight loss. Research means reading book, magazines, articles, internet searches, not asking random MFP questions. It seems you only have a small amount of weight to lose to achieve your goal which is good (I'm hesitant to ask your height and weight because that might be another can of worms...).

    This is probably the first post I have ever seen where all of the comments are in agreement. That does not happen on here! That should send the message to you that your current "diet" is way off.
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  • TheVirgoddess
    TheVirgoddess Posts: 4,535 Member
    I'm a huge proponent of eat what you want while you're dieting - but while doing that, it's equally important to meet all your goals, not just the calorie one.

    Calories are basically made up of fat, protein and carbs (9g of fat = a calorie, 4g of protein = a calorie and 4g of carbs = a calorie). It's important to try get a good balance of those three things. You don't have to stop your cereal, but you do need to exchange some of it for something like bacon, eggs, or sausage. Find healthy fats (and even throw in some not so healthy fats, too). Make sure that you try to meet your calories, fat, protein and carb goals.

    I like to pre-log my days when I can, so I know how much leftover I have to play with. I'm not perfect at meeting my macros (those are the carbs, protein and fats), but I do try.

    You don't have to stop eating all the fun things, but you do need to add in some things with more nutritional value.

    Good luck! And if you need meal ideas, just ask :)
  • NikonPal
    NikonPal Posts: 1,346 Member
    So I have been trying to lose weight and I know it...
    And I use a lot of the dressing sometimes a bottle per day if I have salad
    I recently heard about tracable calories with "zero calorie" products. Am I going to gain from the amount of zero calorie products since I didn't count them before?

    Quick example:

    The "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter" spray has ZERO calories if you use just a few sprays…However, 12.5 sprays is 10 calories and the entire bottle contains 900 calories and 90 grams of fat!

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  • emdeesea
    emdeesea Posts: 1,823 Member
    If that's a recent picture on your profile (your second photo) - you don't need to lose any weight. You already appear too thin.

    If I remember correctly, you posted in the summer about being obsessive with counting calories and food.

    I'd forget the weight loss and focus on developing a healthy relationship with food, which is what you were recommended to do in the beginning.
  • CarrieCans
    CarrieCans Posts: 381 Member
    I see a trend in those foods and the way of thinking. Just about everything is crunchy and easy to count. Not a mentally healthy way to do things.

    Swap out some of the cereal and replace it with 1/2 a cup of milk. Then put some tuna on those crackers, yummm. Work in some fat and protein.
  • Aside from the nutrient portion, is what I eat a lot?
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  • MrM27 wrote: »
    Aside from the nutrient portion, is what I eat a lot?

    Have you really even bothered reading the thread?

    Yes lol the reason I asked was because my husband and I had a discussion last night about it and he said that I eat a lot of nothings
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Aside from the nutrient portion, is what I eat a lot?

    Have you really even bothered reading the thread?

    Yes lol the reason I asked was because my husband and I had a discussion last night about it and he said that I eat a lot of nothings

    i would agree with him.
  • nxd10
    nxd10 Posts: 4,570 Member
    A BOTTLE of salad dressing? I would gain a pound a week from that alone.

    Can I suggest that the single most important thing I got from MFP - and I hit my goal 2 years ago - was learning where the calories in my life were coming from.

    USE your diary to learn where yours are. For me, just dropping big glasses of milk, replacing bread with low carb tortillas, and reducing cheese was enough for me to get my calories in line.

    I've been telling this to my kids - You're eating an English muffin, cream cheese, and honey. You're worried about the honey for calories. That's 30 calories. The muffin and cream cheese are a few hundred.

    The calories aren't always where you think they are. Use your diary to help yourself.
  • MrM27 wrote: »
    Aside from the nutrient portion, is what I eat a lot?

    Have you really even bothered reading the thread?

    Yes lol the reason I asked was because my husband and I had a discussion last night about it and he said that I eat a lot of nothings

    i would agree with him.
    But it's still a lot nonetheless?
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Aside from the nutrient portion, is what I eat a lot?

    Have you really even bothered reading the thread?

    Yes lol the reason I asked was because my husband and I had a discussion last night about it and he said that I eat a lot of nothings

    i would agree with him.
    But it's still a lot nonetheless?

    no

  • FredDoyle
    FredDoyle Posts: 2,273 Member
    I think you changed your user name but left your photos the same.
    Have you gone to see an ED therapist yet?
  • GingerbreadCandy
    GingerbreadCandy Posts: 403 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Aside from the nutrient portion, is what I eat a lot?

    Have you really even bothered reading the thread?

    Yes lol the reason I asked was because my husband and I had a discussion last night about it and he said that I eat a lot of nothings

    i would agree with him.
    But it's still a lot nonetheless?

    No.
  • Ready2Rock206
    Ready2Rock206 Posts: 9,487 Member
    edited December 2014
    I'd be more concerned about the lack of nutrition in your diet than stray calories. You are definitely not eating too much - just eating a lot of junk that won't give you the proper fuel and nutrients you need.
  • AlisonH729
    AlisonH729 Posts: 558 Member
    edited December 2014
    FredDoyle wrote: »
    I think you changed your user name but left your photos the same.
    Have you gone to see an ED therapist yet?

    *Sigh* ^This.

  • lishie_rebooted
    lishie_rebooted Posts: 2,973 Member
    nxd10 wrote: »
    A BOTTLE of salad dressing? I would gain a pound a week from that alone.
    You missed that it's one of those craptastic Walden Farm 0-calorie deals.
  • pdank311
    pdank311 Posts: 137 Member
    Aemely wrote: »
    Yeesh. This cereal and crackers diet would make me quit MFP quickly. Where's the protein and (non-carrot) veggies?
    Why would it make you quit myp? Lol is it a diet that would make me gain or lose slowly (if losing at all?)
    It's quite simple. Cereal depletes the Night Elf's mana pool to 0 and crackers hit them with 50% mp5 reduction debuff that lasts 24 hrs.

    I can understand her fears.
  • GingerbreadCandy
    GingerbreadCandy Posts: 403 Member
    603reader wrote: »
    nxd10 wrote: »
    A BOTTLE of salad dressing? I would gain a pound a week from that alone.
    You missed that it's one of those craptastic Walden Farm 0-calorie deals.

    Whenever read 0-calories, it immediately makes me suspicious.
  • lishie_rebooted
    lishie_rebooted Posts: 2,973 Member
    603reader wrote: »
    nxd10 wrote: »
    A BOTTLE of salad dressing? I would gain a pound a week from that alone.
    You missed that it's one of those craptastic Walden Farm 0-calorie deals.

    Whenever read 0-calories, it immediately makes me suspicious.

    I've heard almost no good things about Walden Farms.
    All of it is made in a lab and all is zero calorie (not shaming chemicals btw - stating a fact).
    And I'm very suspicious of 0-calorie PB.
    Especially when PB2 barely tastes like PB

  • GingerbreadCandy
    GingerbreadCandy Posts: 403 Member
    603reader wrote: »
    603reader wrote: »
    nxd10 wrote: »
    A BOTTLE of salad dressing? I would gain a pound a week from that alone.
    You missed that it's one of those craptastic Walden Farm 0-calorie deals.

    Whenever read 0-calories, it immediately makes me suspicious.

    I've heard almost no good things about Walden Farms.
    All of it is made in a lab and all is zero calorie (not shaming chemicals btw - stating a fact).
    And I'm very suspicious of 0-calorie PB.
    Especially when PB2 barely tastes like PB

    The last time saw something 0-calorie, it was a 0-calorie pan-spray. After looking at the ingredients, we realised it was based on silicone. :/

    Somebody is going to come up and correct me, but I am pretty sure silicone is not supposed to be put in your body unless you are planning to get breasts enhancements...
  • Ready2Rock206
    Ready2Rock206 Posts: 9,487 Member
    603reader wrote: »
    603reader wrote: »
    nxd10 wrote: »
    A BOTTLE of salad dressing? I would gain a pound a week from that alone.
    You missed that it's one of those craptastic Walden Farm 0-calorie deals.

    Whenever read 0-calories, it immediately makes me suspicious.

    I've heard almost no good things about Walden Farms.
    All of it is made in a lab and all is zero calorie (not shaming chemicals btw - stating a fact).
    And I'm very suspicious of 0-calorie PB.
    Especially when PB2 barely tastes like PB

    I have no issues with eating processed foods and am not afraid of chemicals - however even I will not go near that Walden Farms stuff. How the heck do you make ZERO calorie ranch? That stuff is too frankenfood even for me. I'd rather have the calories and eat something decent.

  • _lyndseybrooke_
    _lyndseybrooke_ Posts: 2,561 Member
    edited December 2014
    From the look of that daily menu, trace calories are the least of your problems. You're dieting like an amateur. I'd be starving and miserable if I ate like that every day.

    1. Protein is your friend. Eat it.
    2. Stop eating the same thing every day. A bottle of calorie-free dressing a day? Blech!
    3. Stop doing the same exact exercise every day. Get off that torture device we call a treadmill and pick up something heavy for a change.
    4. Eat back some of those exercise calories. If you're eating 1400 and burning 220, your body is running on 1180 calories. You do not need to eat that little to lose weight.
    5. Stop overthinking it.
  • lishie_rebooted
    lishie_rebooted Posts: 2,973 Member
    603reader wrote: »
    603reader wrote: »
    nxd10 wrote: »
    A BOTTLE of salad dressing? I would gain a pound a week from that alone.
    You missed that it's one of those craptastic Walden Farm 0-calorie deals.

    Whenever read 0-calories, it immediately makes me suspicious.

    I've heard almost no good things about Walden Farms.
    All of it is made in a lab and all is zero calorie (not shaming chemicals btw - stating a fact).
    And I'm very suspicious of 0-calorie PB.
    Especially when PB2 barely tastes like PB

    I have no issues with eating processed foods and am not afraid of chemicals - however even I will not go near that Walden Farms stuff. How the heck do you make ZERO calorie ranch? That stuff is too frankenfood even for me. I'd rather have the calories and eat something decent.

    Exactly. I'm the same way.
    My ex picked up a bottle of it a couple months ago when we were shopping. I was like "oh hell no", he put it back on the shelf. And some random lady liked my lecture on why Walden Farm belongs in a trash can
  • lishie_rebooted
    lishie_rebooted Posts: 2,973 Member
    From the look of that daily menu, trace calories are the least of your problems. You're dieting like an amateur. I'd be starving and miserable if I ate like that every day.

    1. Protein is your friend. Eat it.
    2. Stop eating the same thing every day. A bottle of calorie-free dressing a day? Blech!
    3. Stop doing the same exact exercise every day. Get off that torture device we call a treadmill and pick up something heavy for a change.
    4. Eat back some of those exercise calories. If you're eating 1400 and burning 220, your body is running on 1180 calories. You do not need to eat that little to lose weight.
    5. Stop overthinking it.

    What's wrong with eating the same thing everyday?
    Besides being boring, as long as the day is more varied than what she's eating now, I don't see any reason not to eat the same thing.
    A lot of people have found success eating the same thing for breakfast & lunch every day with some variety at dinner (I'm not one of them, I get bored eating chicken a lot)
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