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Anyone else going sugar free in 2015?
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ForecasterJason wrote: »
So, are saying it's fine to just eat loads and loads of refined sugar?64138MomToLose wrote: »hebrewhauler wrote: »I believe it is wise to avoid REFINED sugar or too much sugar period. There is a reason why we have a type 2 diabetes epidemic.
um...just NO
Nobody said that.
Nobody.
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ForecasterJason wrote: »
So, are saying it's fine to just eat loads and loads of refined sugar?64138MomToLose wrote: »hebrewhauler wrote: »I believe it is wise to avoid REFINED sugar or too much sugar period. There is a reason why we have a type 2 diabetes epidemic.
um...just NO
Who said loads and loads? What part of moderation don't you seem to understand? Why is it one extreme or the other?
This is an excellent point because the extreme of eating too much in the first place gets people overweight, and then the extreme of good food/bad fad can keep us there. There is way too much demonizing of some foods, especially sugar. When I got rid of the whole extreme mentality, my relationship with myself and food changed. And, yes, I demonized refined sugar (funny I never demonized fruits or foods sweetened with fruit.
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Now, when I don't eat those cookies or forgo the cake, it's not because they are bad foods, it's simply because I don't want them at that time. There's always another day.
Other times, like when I'm at a party and there are sweets, I eat too much of them, but that is a rare occurrence these days (compared to very often before I changed my perception of food).
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Ok, before this continues any further, please, everyone, scroll back to the original comment that was quoted and look at the two responses directly above it from the same user. None of them go into any detail as to what that user meant, so we don't need to waste our time speculating about it, especially when we can watch this:
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I do understand SLLRunner's post. I think what I'm seeing is that so much about nutrition that I was brought up on is not being looked at the same way on MFP. It is true that growing up I was taught moderation when it comes to foods, especially sweets. But I'd also always heard that some forms of sugar such as table sugar, HFCS, CS, and other forms of sugar added to some foods are not "healthy". It wasn't that I shouldn't eat any of this at all. But again, moderation. In other words, I was taught that I shouldn't be eating lots of these foods (particularly the ones that also have numerous other added ingredients that are hard to pronounce) because they're "not healthy". I hate to bring it back up again, but as I've indirectly mentioned before, yes I was taught that something like broccoli is "healthy" and a brownie isn't really. Not to the level of sugar being the devil type thing, but you get the picture.ForecasterJason wrote: »
So, are saying it's fine to just eat loads and loads of refined sugar?64138MomToLose wrote: »hebrewhauler wrote: »I believe it is wise to avoid REFINED sugar or too much sugar period. There is a reason why we have a type 2 diabetes epidemic.
um...just NO
Who said loads and loads? What part of moderation don't you seem to understand? Why is it one extreme or the other?
This is an excellent point because the extreme of eating too much in the first place gets people overweight, and then the extreme of good food/bad fad can keep us there. There is way too much demonizing of some foods, especially sugar. When I got rid of the whole extreme mentality, my relationship with myself and food changed. And, yes, I demonized refined sugar (funny I never demonized fruits or foods sweetened with fruit. )
Now, when I don't eat those cookies or forgo the cake, it's not because they are bad foods, it's simply because I don't want them at that time. There's always another day.
Other times, like when I'm at a party and there are sweets, I eat too much of them, but that is a rare occurrence these days (compared to very often before I changed my perception of food).
Jason, tell us what this member actually meant above^^^^^ Not what she really said which is pretty clear.
Also, I do know correlation does not equal causation here. But I've often thought about the fact that as I got into my teenage years, I can say that my allergies worsened, and my digestive system became more sensitive. There probably were other factors in play, but I can't ignore the fact that I did eat start eating more refined sugar in my early teens as compared to early childhood.
Maybe you guys can understand why it's not so easy for me to quickly understand the alternate way of looking at this type of stuff.0 -
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While you guys were arguing 10 million ppl died from sugar overdose0
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Certainly NO sugar free for me! I love it and will eat it for the rest of my life... in moderation - just like everything else.0
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fearlessleader104 wrote: »While you guys were arguing 10 million ppl died from sugar overdose
If only we had given them a kale-beet-apple detox smoothie in time
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I got flagged for abuse and have no clue which topic or why? Anyone shed any light please??0
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RunRutheeRun wrote: »I got flagged for abuse and have no clue which topic or why? Anyone shed any light please??
Don't worry about it. The whole flagging thing is a mess, it doesn't mean anything.
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RunRutheeRun wrote: »I got flagged for abuse and have no clue which topic or why? Anyone shed any light please??
Don't worry about it. The whole flagging thing is a mess, it doesn't mean anything.
I thought I could get banned from posting?
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ForecasterJason wrote: »
I do understand SLLRunner's post. I think what I'm seeing is that so much about nutrition that I was brought up on is not being looked at the same way on MFP. It is true that growing up I was taught moderation when it comes to foods, especially sweets. But I'd also always heard that some forms of sugar such as table sugar, HFCS, CS, and other forms of sugar added to some foods are not "healthy". It wasn't that I shouldn't eat any of this at all. But again, moderation. In other words, I was taught that I shouldn't be eating lots of these foods (particularly the ones that also have numerous other added ingredients that are hard to pronounce) because they're "not healthy". I hate to bring it back up again, but as I've indirectly mentioned before, yes I was taught that something like broccoli is "healthy" and a brownie isn't really. Not to the level of sugar being the devil type thing, but you get the picture.ForecasterJason wrote: »
So, are saying it's fine to just eat loads and loads of refined sugar?64138MomToLose wrote: »hebrewhauler wrote: »I believe it is wise to avoid REFINED sugar or too much sugar period. There is a reason why we have a type 2 diabetes epidemic.
um...just NO
Who said loads and loads? What part of moderation don't you seem to understand? Why is it one extreme or the other?
This is an excellent point because the extreme of eating too much in the first place gets people overweight, and then the extreme of good food/bad fad can keep us there. There is way too much demonizing of some foods, especially sugar. When I got rid of the whole extreme mentality, my relationship with myself and food changed. And, yes, I demonized refined sugar (funny I never demonized fruits or foods sweetened with fruit. )
Now, when I don't eat those cookies or forgo the cake, it's not because they are bad foods, it's simply because I don't want them at that time. There's always another day.
Other times, like when I'm at a party and there are sweets, I eat too much of them, but that is a rare occurrence these days (compared to very often before I changed my perception of food).
Jason, tell us what this member actually meant above^^^^^ Not what she really said which is pretty clear.
Also, I do know correlation does not equal causation here. But I've often thought about the fact that as I got into my teenage years, I can say that my allergies worsened, and my digestive system became more sensitive. There probably were other factors in play, but I can't ignore the fact that I did eat start eating more refined sugar in my early teens as compared to early childhood.
Maybe you guys can understand why it's not so easy for me to quickly understand the alternate way of looking at this type of stuff.
The alternate way of looking at things is based upon fact, not opinion passed through family.0 -
RunRutheeRun wrote: »RunRutheeRun wrote: »I got flagged for abuse and have no clue which topic or why? Anyone shed any light please??
Don't worry about it. The whole flagging thing is a mess, it doesn't mean anything.
I thought I could get banned from posting?
it brimgs you to he attention of those who could ban you. The abuse button is supposed to be for porn or the most heinous behavior... it typically means someone disagreed with you. lol
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Not just opinion passed through family, we're talking an entire culture. Here in the U.S., I can look at any health magazine or article that talks about food, and will find foods being described as healthy or healthier than others. I can't imagine the story is much different in many other places in the Western World.brianpperkins wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »
I do understand SLLRunner's post. I think what I'm seeing is that so much about nutrition that I was brought up on is not being looked at the same way on MFP. It is true that growing up I was taught moderation when it comes to foods, especially sweets. But I'd also always heard that some forms of sugar such as table sugar, HFCS, CS, and other forms of sugar added to some foods are not "healthy". It wasn't that I shouldn't eat any of this at all. But again, moderation. In other words, I was taught that I shouldn't be eating lots of these foods (particularly the ones that also have numerous other added ingredients that are hard to pronounce) because they're "not healthy". I hate to bring it back up again, but as I've indirectly mentioned before, yes I was taught that something like broccoli is "healthy" and a brownie isn't really. Not to the level of sugar being the devil type thing, but you get the picture.ForecasterJason wrote: »
So, are saying it's fine to just eat loads and loads of refined sugar?64138MomToLose wrote: »hebrewhauler wrote: »I believe it is wise to avoid REFINED sugar or too much sugar period. There is a reason why we have a type 2 diabetes epidemic.
um...just NO
Who said loads and loads? What part of moderation don't you seem to understand? Why is it one extreme or the other?
This is an excellent point because the extreme of eating too much in the first place gets people overweight, and then the extreme of good food/bad fad can keep us there. There is way too much demonizing of some foods, especially sugar. When I got rid of the whole extreme mentality, my relationship with myself and food changed. And, yes, I demonized refined sugar (funny I never demonized fruits or foods sweetened with fruit. )
Now, when I don't eat those cookies or forgo the cake, it's not because they are bad foods, it's simply because I don't want them at that time. There's always another day.
Other times, like when I'm at a party and there are sweets, I eat too much of them, but that is a rare occurrence these days (compared to very often before I changed my perception of food).
Jason, tell us what this member actually meant above^^^^^ Not what she really said which is pretty clear.
Also, I do know correlation does not equal causation here. But I've often thought about the fact that as I got into my teenage years, I can say that my allergies worsened, and my digestive system became more sensitive. There probably were other factors in play, but I can't ignore the fact that I did eat start eating more refined sugar in my early teens as compared to early childhood.
Maybe you guys can understand why it's not so easy for me to quickly understand the alternate way of looking at this type of stuff.
The alternate way of looking at things is based upon fact, not opinion passed through family.0 -
RunRutheeRun wrote: »RunRutheeRun wrote: »I got flagged for abuse and have no clue which topic or why? Anyone shed any light please??
Don't worry about it. The whole flagging thing is a mess, it doesn't mean anything.
I thought I could get banned from posting?
Not at all. Some people seem to use it as a like button (no idea why they would think it), most use it if they disagree with your post. You need 5 I believe on the same post (as in 5 different people flagging you) to bring to the mods attention - and they will only give you a warning if its contrary to the rules - unless its a really huge contravention, you still need to rack up warnings to get a ban. Most flags are not contraventions at all - just people being silly.0 -
ive been mostly sugar free for the better part of 3 years now- EXCEPT FOR during the holidays when i just eat whatever i want- and gain 10 lbs in 2 months. Boo0
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sugar really is terrible for you0
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