i'm eating more but still losing weight

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  • deviboy1592
    deviboy1592 Posts: 989 Member
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    Everybodies metabolism is different, what works for doesn't mean it will work for everyone, as well how many times a day does he eat? What does he eat? Is it a cheat day that you've read? Is it gluten free? Was it packaged? Thin crust or thick?
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
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    Soda is linked to prostate, processed meats to heart disease, diet soda to obesity and a whole slew of problems, look it up. I've been eating pretty clean for the last year and I have seen better results with cutting my gym time in half. Watch all the health nuts on YouTube and body builders. They all Eat and the same thing



    I bolded the part that's important.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    Everybodies metabolism is different, what works for doesn't mean it will work for everyone, as well how many times a day does he eat? What does he eat? Is it a cheat day that you've read? Is it gluten free? Was it packaged? Thin crust or thick?

    two constants that NEVER change

    calorie surplus = weight gain
    calorie deficit = weight loss

    nothing you say or do can change those facts...

    unless you are from the fifth dimension and the rules of math and physics do not apply to you ..
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
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    MrM27 wrote: »
    I'm not trying to scare anyone, I'm sure I'm not the only one who has Internet, websites like the huffinton post, web md, news shows, talk shows all kinds of media points to these scientific facts. Look around. I was in the same point a lot of these people are, and eating whatever you want isn't for everyone.

    Those body builders posted up meal plans on bodybuilding.com, no where do I see Big Macs and kfc anywhere.
    You are quoting the bro diets on BB.com? Really?



    And huffpost, talk shows, holee F.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
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    Everybodies metabolism is different, what works for doesn't mean it will work for everyone, as well how many times a day does he eat? What does he eat? Is it a cheat day that you've read? Is it gluten free? Was it packaged? Thin crust or thick?
    You're missing the point of flexible dieting. Layne Norton was thrown around as a body builder who eats a flexible diet. He has his own blog about it, but here's an interview about the lifestyle:

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/iifym-and-flexible-nutrition-interview-with-dr-layne-norton.html
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    edited January 2015
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    Everybodies metabolism is different, what works for doesn't mean it will work for everyone, as well how many times a day does he eat? What does he eat? Is it a cheat day that you've read? Is it gluten free? Was it packaged? Thin crust or thick?

    Who are you directing this too?

    If you are referring to the list of names - they do not apply flexible dieting only on some days, they do not eat gluten free and they eat packaged food. Meal timing - well, not sure what that question is even about.

    In any event, what do any of those things have to do with anything?
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    edited January 2015
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    I'm not trying to scare anyone, I'm sure I'm not the only one who has Internet, websites like the huffinton post, web md, news shows, talk shows all kinds of media points to these scientific facts. Look around. I was in the same point a lot of these people are, and eating whatever you want isn't for everyone.

    Those body builders posted up meal plans on bodybuilding.com, no where do I see Big Macs and kfc anywhere.

    I like scientific sources to point me to 'scientific facts' - however, what scientific facts are you referring to?

    Those bb'ers do not post up meal plans in bb.com.

    Also, Big Macs and KFC are not the only other foods around.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    edited January 2015
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    While those guys are cutting down to a competition, they might eat well when off season or bulking, they probably are not nearly as strict and probably eat plenty of junk food. Where do you think these guys go right after a competition? Probably to a fast food joint or a steak house LOL

    After my last PL meet I went out to eat with a bunch of competitive bb'ers - you should have seen the size of the burgers and plates of fries and other fried food consumed - and these were the ones who didn't compete at the meet. One was even kind enough to bring a big ole box of donuts to the meet for us.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
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    And a great cap to my day- throws out huffington post as a place of credible information about what causes cancer.

    thank you deviboy- thank you- that was... just. awesome.
  • 3laine75
    3laine75 Posts: 3,070 Member
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    Everybodies metabolism is different, what works for doesn't mean it will work for everyone, as well how many times a day does he eat? What does he eat? Is it a cheat day that you've read? Is it gluten free? Was it packaged? Thin crust or thick?

    FFS

    Is it just the same person making different accounts? Seems like physics isn't working for a lot of people lately.

  • deviboy1592
    deviboy1592 Posts: 989 Member
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    "THE POINT OF FLEXIBLE DIETING IS TO HAVE LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY. ALLOWING PEOPLE TO EAT FOODS THEY ENJOY IN MODERATION MAKES THEM LESS LIKELY TO CHEAT AND BINGE EAT."

    Took that after reading the article, doesn't mean that they just eat what they want, if he has ice cream once a day big deal, if it's the portion good for him, but that doesn't mean you need to eat all just junk food to get your calories.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
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    "THE POINT OF FLEXIBLE DIETING IS TO HAVE LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY. ALLOWING PEOPLE TO EAT FOODS THEY ENJOY IN MODERATION MAKES THEM LESS LIKELY TO CHEAT AND BINGE EAT."

    Took that after reading the article, doesn't mean that they just eat what they want, if he has ice cream once a day big deal, if it's the portion good for him, but that doesn't mean you need to eat all just junk food to get your calories.

    Who the heck said you do?

  • deviboy1592
    deviboy1592 Posts: 989 Member
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    JoRocka wrote: »
    And a great cap to my day- throws out huffington post as a place of credible information about what causes cancer.

    thank you deviboy- thank you- that was... just. awesome.

    I would like to know where it says all that food is healthy for you?
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
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    JoRocka wrote: »
    And a great cap to my day- throws out huffington post as a place of credible information about what causes cancer.

    thank you deviboy- thank you- that was... just. awesome.

    I would like to know where it says all that food is healthy for you?

    I would,like to know where is says all that food is unhealthy for you?

    And no, please do not throw out a strawman of only eating ice cream and pop tarts all day.
  • deviboy1592
    deviboy1592 Posts: 989 Member
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    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    "THE POINT OF FLEXIBLE DIETING IS TO HAVE LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY. ALLOWING PEOPLE TO EAT FOODS THEY ENJOY IN MODERATION MAKES THEM LESS LIKELY TO CHEAT AND BINGE EAT."

    Took that after reading the article, doesn't mean that they just eat what they want, if he has ice cream once a day big deal, if it's the portion good for him, but that doesn't mean you need to eat all just junk food to get your calories.

    Who the heck said you do?

    I'm sorry didn't you say" you should see what these guys eat after a competition?" My point is they actually eat very clean all the time.
  • ForecasterJason
    ForecasterJason Posts: 2,577 Member
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    JoRocka wrote: »
    And a great cap to my day- throws out huffington post as a place of credible information about what causes cancer.

    thank you deviboy- thank you- that was... just. awesome.

    I would like to know where it says all that food is healthy for you?
    I know it sounds crazy, but a lot of the members here don't believe in food being "healthy" or "unhealthy".

  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
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    I seem to be having to drop this into threads a lot this year:

    http://dynamicduotraining.com/ask-the-experts-round-table-discussions/15-nutrition-myths-you-want-to-knowallow-the-experts-to-tell/

    Eric Helms-

    The Myth of “Good” and “Bad” Foods

    I think one of the most pervasive, and possibly detrimental mind sets is that of seeing foods as either “good” or “bad”. This is a rather seductive way of looking at foods because it is simplistic. Look at a food, identify it as friend or foe, and then go with the “good” option not the “bad” option and you’ll be healthy, fit, lean and sexy! It’s that easy! But of course, that’s not the case.

    One of the problems with this mindset is that it fits perfectly into the behavioral paradigm that leads to obesity in the first place; the all or nothing mindset. One thing I find to be a commonality among folks who struggle with weight gain and permanent weight loss, is that they lose the middle ground. They bounce between being “on the diet” and falling off the band wagon and lapsing into cycles of overeating. We have no problem losing weight, we have trouble keeping the weight off. We crash diet and lose 20-30lbs in a few months, and then it all comes back on when we can’t maintain the crash diet approach.

    All or nothing Black and white mindsets ignore the concepts of magnitude and frequency which are all important when it comes to long term change. Of course 1g of sugar eaten every 2 weeks will not have the same effect as 100g of sugar eaten daily, but we love to label sugar as “bad”. Even water consumed in massive excess can lead to hyponatremia and death. Sugar is not good or bad, and neither is water, they just are what they are and without attention to magnitude or frequency, labels like “good” or “bad” are misleading.

    We tend to be overly reductionist in our approach to nutrition. Originally, we believed fat was the singular cause of the obesity epidemic. When the low fat craze had no impact on preventing the worsening of the obesity epidemic, we went the way of the low carb craze, and folks started consuming fat with abandon. When this didn’t turn the trend of waist expansion around, we decided that it’s not just fat or carbs, the causes are specific types of carbs and fat; specifically sugar, high fructose corn syrup and trans fat are the culprits!

    The need to blame singular nutrients highlights the all or nothing, black or white attitude that is in and of itself one of the roots of unhealthy eating behavior and consequently obesity. Again, it comes down to seeking balance. The concept of balance in nutrition is inclusive of the concepts of magnitude and frequency that are needed for long term lifestyle change. Balance recognizes that it is not the small piece of chocolate that you had that wasn’t on your diet plan that was the problem, it was the carton of ice cream you had afterward!

    The meal plan foods are “good”, and a piece of chocolate is “bad” and once you’d crossed over from “good” to “bad”, you said: “Screw it! I already blew it, I might as well just have cookie dough ice cream until I puke!” That is the all too common result of the all or nothing mindset in action. On the other hand, a balanced approach realizes that a small piece of chocolate is only ~100 calories, and will make a minuscule difference in terms of weight loss over time. In fact, a balanced meal plan might even allow for a daily range of calories, so that the following day could be reduced by 100 calories. Even more shockingly, a balanced meal plan might even include a piece of chocolate (blasphemy I know)!

    There are truly VERY few foods that are actively bad for you. Most of the foods that we identify as “bad”, are simply low or devoid of micro-nutrients, minerals, fiber and other things like phytochemicals and protein that can be beneficial for you. These foods only become a problem when they occur frequently and with enough magnitude (frequency and magnitude!) to replace a significant enough portion of your diet that you become deficient in beneficial nutrients.

    Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food! It’s not as though we have a health food critic living in our esophagus that has a control box that he switches from “get leaner and healthier” to “get fatter and unhealthier” every time he spots “good” or “bad” food. Thus, a healthy diet should be inclusionary vs. exclusionary; focused around including healthy foods, not excluding “unhealthy” foods. Meet your nutrient needs, and feel free to eat things that you may have traditionally seen as “bad” in moderation; so that you are still meeting your allotted caloric intake for your weight loss goals. Don’t make the mistake of looking at foods as “good” or “bad!” Good diets can include “bad” foods and bad diets can include “good” foods. Don’t get too caught up with what you have for lunch, because it is not a singular choice that will determine the success of your health and fitness goals, it is the balanced lifestyle you commit to long term!