Sugarrrrrrr
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emily_stew wrote: »Fuchsiagenii wrote: »YES, sugar is BAD for us.
And for those of you that do not know - ALL CARBOHYDRATES are converted into GLUCOSE by the body.
Regarding the composition of fruit - I am not a chemist and I too have read the web link that with regard to herrspoons comments "There are three dietery monosaccharides - glucose, fructose and galactose. Lactose, like maltose and sucrose, is a disaccharide."
What I was trying to put across is that eating a whole fruit, although it contains "sugar" has healthy benefits because of the vitamins, antioxidants and fibre that it contains. And drinking fruit juice is not the same as having a whole fruit.
With regard to the sugar content in the yogurts - I was advised by my dietician to go for the ones that contain 3% of sugar or less. Now 3% of any amount is 3% for those of you that do not know your maths. And of course, if you are counting your calorie intake the more you eat the more calories you will have eaten, but the percentage of sugar will still
be 3% of the total that you ate (the carbohydrate of which are sugars will be different).
There was an advert on UK TV last night, with regard to people cutting down on their intake of sugar! A programme a couple of nights ago on UK TV about the Tudors, showed how their health deteriorated because of eating - SUGAR! The sugar caused dreadful tooth decay and because of that, bacteria entered into the blood stream. Their dentistry was not as advanced as ours and they did not have pain killing relief nor any antibiotics. Any rotten teeth were pulled out with no sedation. Most of them had died because of blood poisoning due to getting the rotten teeth (and infections) which was an entry for bacteria from eating too much SUGAR!
Our modern diet consists of too much sugar and sugar in all sorts of products (hidden sugars).
There was also a programme not long ago on UK TV that talked about that sugar is far worse than fat.
Many years ago we were told that butter was no good for us, now we are told that it is better to eat butter than some of the margarines. We were told that fat was bad for us and now we are told there are good fats and bad fats. The good fats are those in fish, nuts, avocado pears and coconuts.
Eating everything in moderation is the key, but with people who have a glucose intolerance or have diabetes, it is even more important to control sugar intake whether this is from simple or complex carbs.
Eating a snickers bar everyday is fine as long as you are eating other healthy foods and are not glucose intolerant or a diabetic.
I would be more inclined to blame syphilis and inbreeding for the majority of health issues the Tudors faced...
Do you just believe every "documentary" on the TV?
And finally, while you are entitled to your opinions, when you present your opinions as facts, you had best expect them to be challenged..
This. Did they even have toothbrushes back then?0 -
When people say "sugar is bad" or anything along those lines, I have this whole inner monologue
-teen girl voice-
"But MOMMMMM. Sugar is just a SWEET guy with a bad reputation!"0 -
emily_stew wrote: »
GET OUT!
No, I wasn't aware. Sigh. All the good ideas got taken before I got here. I even started making one that said S-U-G-A-R instead of BINGO.0 -
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emily_stew wrote: »emily_stew wrote: »
GET OUT!
No, I wasn't aware. Sigh. All the good ideas got taken before I got here. I even started making one that said S-U-G-A-R instead of BINGO.
Haha. I shall PM you the Bingo card!
Me too - I never got one! Couldn't figure out who the Bingo B***ch was since Jof said it wasn't him anymore...
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MrsHorton123 wrote: »Now, I understand sugar is BAD however I love yoghurt and I'm totally confused which type is better for weight loss!? Clean eating tells me full fat yoghurt is best but low fat/98% fat free ones seem best for my weight loss??? Help knowledgable foodies!!! ????
I eat plain fat free yogurt so that I can save my fat calories for full fat cheese as a bedtime snack and I can save some of my carbs for other things. Hasn't hurt my weight loss yet. I don't track sugars, just limit my carbs to a daily max of 180 g.
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emily_stew wrote: »Fuchsiagenii wrote: »YES, sugar is BAD for us.
And for those of you that do not know - ALL CARBOHYDRATES are converted into GLUCOSE by the body.
Regarding the composition of fruit - I am not a chemist and I too have read the web link that with regard to herrspoons comments "There are three dietery monosaccharides - glucose, fructose and galactose. Lactose, like maltose and sucrose, is a disaccharide."
What I was trying to put across is that eating a whole fruit, although it contains "sugar" has healthy benefits because of the vitamins, antioxidants and fibre that it contains. And drinking fruit juice is not the same as having a whole fruit.
With regard to the sugar content in the yogurts - I was advised by my dietician to go for the ones that contain 3% of sugar or less. Now 3% of any amount is 3% for those of you that do not know your maths. And of course, if you are counting your calorie intake the more you eat the more calories you will have eaten, but the percentage of sugar will still
be 3% of the total that you ate (the carbohydrate of which are sugars will be different).
There was an advert on UK TV last night, with regard to people cutting down on their intake of sugar! A programme a couple of nights ago on UK TV about the Tudors, showed how their health deteriorated because of eating - SUGAR! The sugar caused dreadful tooth decay and because of that, bacteria entered into the blood stream. Their dentistry was not as advanced as ours and they did not have pain killing relief nor any antibiotics. Any rotten teeth were pulled out with no sedation. Most of them had died because of blood poisoning due to getting the rotten teeth (and infections) which was an entry for bacteria from eating too much SUGAR!
Our modern diet consists of too much sugar and sugar in all sorts of products (hidden sugars).
There was also a programme not long ago on UK TV that talked about that sugar is far worse than fat.
Many years ago we were told that butter was no good for us, now we are told that it is better to eat butter than some of the margarines. We were told that fat was bad for us and now we are told there are good fats and bad fats. The good fats are those in fish, nuts, avocado pears and coconuts.
Eating everything in moderation is the key, but with people who have a glucose intolerance or have diabetes, it is even more important to control sugar intake whether this is from simple or complex carbs.
Eating a snickers bar everyday is fine as long as you are eating other healthy foods and are not glucose intolerant or a diabetic.
I would be more inclined to blame syphilis and inbreeding for the majority of health issues the Tudors faced...
Do you just believe every "documentary" on the TV?
And finally, while you are entitled to your opinions, when you present your opinions as facts, you had best expect them to be challenged..
This. Did they even have toothbrushes back then?
They did but most people just used a soft twig
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
No, she just seemed defensive or guilty about the fact that she eats yogurt.
Which, again, suggests that this anti sugar stuff is way out of hand.0 -
Fuchsiagenii wrote: »Personally I love the Greek Style FULL fat yogurt and add my own soft fruit.
Uh-oh. I ran the numbers, and full fat Greek seems to have about 4% sugar, which I recall you saying was a no-no.
AND, hate to tell you this, but if you add fruit the fruit plus yogurt will have WAY more than 3% sugar.I would rather go for natural sugars any day rather than the artificial sweetners.
What does this have to do with OP's question? Are you suggesting that low fat yogurt has artificial sweeteners whereas full fat does not?
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lemurcat12 wrote: »
Speak for yourself. I don't allow sugar to hide from me, so I know precisely how much sugar I eat and in what and it does not concern me.
I just had this hilarious image in my head of you playing hide and seek with giant sugar cubes in your house screaming, "GET OUT HERE RIGHT NOW SUGAR, YOU CAN'T HIDE FROM ME".
Perhaps the sugar has rotted my teeth and the bacteria is seeping into my brain.
It did lead to the decline of the British monarchy. I'm pretty sure it's why George III was coo-coo, and thus probably responsible for the American War of Independence.
Go sugar!
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
so sugar is bad = angelic?
I would call it benign within the context of the OP's questions.
this is a snippet from her OP ..
"Now, I understand sugar is BAD however…"
she's aid sugar is bad and capitalized it…so how is that benign????
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Well my dear friends, this evening I have been listening to Robert H. Lustig, MD, UCSF Division of Endocrinology and Metabolism, UCSF Mini Medical School, on the top of "Sugar : The Bitter Truth".
You can listen to his lecture and also listen to "Sugar is Killing Us" by going to http://thetruthaboutsugar.com
And yep, I must admit that fructose that is in fruit is just as bad when consumed without the pulp and without the fibre! But I did say in my post that it is better to eat the whole fruit with the peel rather than drink a fruit juice.
Unfortunately, most of our foods contain "hidden sugars" that are BAD for us.-1 -
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This opens a whole new can of worms...
-tough guy voice-
"Yo, sugar, she's a sweet lady. Ehhh, maybe she's all over, but she's got this comforting way about her. Sticky and sweet, but not as bad as people are lead to believe"
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Fuchsiagenii wrote: »Well my dear friends, this evening I have been listening to Robert H. Lustig, MD, UCSF Division of Endocrinology and Metabolism, UCSF Mini Medical School, on the top of "Sugar : The Bitter Truth".
You can listen to his lecture and also listen to "Sugar is Killing Us" by going to http://thetruthaboutsugar.com
And yep, I must admit that fructose that is in fruit is just as bad when consumed without the pulp and without the fibre! But I did say in my post that it is better to eat the whole fruit with the peel rather than drink a fruit juice.
Unfortunately, most of our foods contain "hidden sugars" that are BAD for us.
please just leave this thread with the LOLustig and pseduoscience garbage0 -
This opens a whole new can of worms...
-tough guy voice-
"Yo, sugar, she's a sweet lady. Ehhh, maybe she's all over, but she's got this comforting way about her. Sticky and sweet, but not as bad as people are lead to believe"
funny that is the same thing I told my mom about my last GF….who just happens to be a stripper..
bahahahahahaha JK0 -
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I lol'd
This opens a whole new can of worms...
-tough guy voice-
"Yo, sugar, she's a sweet lady. Ehhh, maybe she's all over, but she's got this comforting way about her. Sticky and sweet, but not as bad as people are lead to believe"
funny that is the same thing I told my mom about my last GF….who just happens to be a stripper..
bahahahahahaha JK
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I lol'd
This opens a whole new can of worms...
-tough guy voice-
"Yo, sugar, she's a sweet lady. Ehhh, maybe she's all over, but she's got this comforting way about her. Sticky and sweet, but not as bad as people are lead to believe"
funny that is the same thing I told my mom about my last GF….who just happens to be a stripper..
bahahahahahaha JK
I have a way with words..
it is either a blessing or a curse…I am still trying to figure out..0 -
Fuchsiagenii wrote: »Well my dear friends, this evening I have been listening to Robert H. Lustig, MD, UCSF Division of Endocrinology and Metabolism, UCSF Mini Medical School, on the top of "Sugar : The Bitter Truth".
You can listen to his lecture and also listen to "Sugar is Killing Us" by going to http://thetruthaboutsugar.com
And yep, I must admit that fructose that is in fruit is just as bad when consumed without the pulp and without the fibre! But I did say in my post that it is better to eat the whole fruit with the peel rather than drink a fruit juice.
Unfortunately, most of our foods contain "hidden sugars" that are BAD for us.
please just leave this thread with the LOLustig and pseduoscience garbage
Why should I? I am a member and have the right to post a comment, and especially as some people have "slagged" me off and wanted the evidence!
If you don't like truthful comments, perhaps you are the one that should leave.0 -
Fuchsiagenii wrote: »Fuchsiagenii wrote: »Well my dear friends, this evening I have been listening to Robert H. Lustig, MD, UCSF Division of Endocrinology and Metabolism, UCSF Mini Medical School, on the top of "Sugar : The Bitter Truth".
You can listen to his lecture and also listen to "Sugar is Killing Us" by going to http://thetruthaboutsugar.com
And yep, I must admit that fructose that is in fruit is just as bad when consumed without the pulp and without the fibre! But I did say in my post that it is better to eat the whole fruit with the peel rather than drink a fruit juice.
Unfortunately, most of our foods contain "hidden sugars" that are BAD for us.
please just leave this thread with the LOLustig and pseduoscience garbage
Why should I? I am a member and have the right to post a comment, and especially as some people have "slagged" me off and wanted the evidence!
If you don't like truthful comments, perhaps you are the one that should leave.
because you are posting pseudo science….
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missiontofitness wrote: »Sugar isn't bad. As long as you are in a calorie deficit and have no reason to track sugar, don't panic over it.
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Demonizing food is excuse-promoting, and is phony science. Eggs used to be the bad guy, as was red meat, as was protein, as was cheese and dairy foods, as was pork, as was bacon, as was salt...
As far as the legitimacy of a PhD goes, history is FULL of unbelievably dumb things eventually proven wrong that came out of the bloated ego-stroked minds of "doctors". There are PhD's who believe in fascism, PhD's who believe in UFO aliens, PhD's who believe in ghosts, PhD's who search for bigfoot, PhD's who believe the universe is a couple thousand years old, PhD's who believe in astrology, PhD's who believe world peace is an achievable goal, PhD's who believe certain racial subsets of humans are superior to others, PhD's and MD's who believe children with birth defects should not be allowed to live, There are MD's who believe that cancer can be treated by nothing more than talking to the tumor and playing it soothing music, and on and on and on... College professors are some of the nuttiest people I've ever met, and many of them rely on people who consider themselves lesser thinkers to parrot whatever silly idea they present as "fact" simply because they envy the letters after their name
Sugar is not bad. Having an adversarial relationship with food is unhealthy. It's at the core of why so many people are here seeking advice on how to eat better. Stop telling people that food is bad. It is irresponsible, confusing, wrong, and harmful0 -
Thank you, kind sirhmcbride68 wrote: »Sugar is not bad. Having an adversarial relationship with food is unhealthy. It's at the core of why so many people are here seeking advice on how to eat better. Stop telling people that food is bad. It is irresponsible, confusing, wrong, and harmful
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hmcbride68 wrote: »Demonizing food is excuse-promoting, and is phony science. Eggs used to be the bad guy, as was red meat, as was protein, as was cheese and dairy foods, as was pork, as was bacon, as was salt...
As far as the legitimacy of a PhD goes, history is FULL of unbelievably dumb things eventually proven wrong that came out of the bloated ego-stroked minds of "doctors". There are PhD's who believe in fascism, PhD's who believe in UFO aliens, PhD's who believe in ghosts, PhD's who search for bigfoot, PhD's who believe the universe is a couple thousand years old, PhD's who believe in astrology, PhD's who believe world peace is an achievable goal, PhD's who believe certain racial subsets of humans are superior to others, PhD's and MD's who believe children with birth defects should not be allowed to live, There are MD's who believe that cancer can be treated by nothing more than talking to the tumor and playing it soothing music, and on and on and on... College professors are some of the nuttiest people I've ever met, and many of them rely on people who consider themselves lesser thinkers to parrot whatever silly idea they present as "fact" simply because they envy the letters after their name
Sugar is not bad. Having an adversarial relationship with food is unhealthy. It's at the core of why so many people are here seeking advice on how to eat better. Stop telling people that food is bad. It is irresponsible, confusing, wrong, and harmful
+1,000
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hmcbride68 wrote: »Demonizing food is excuse-promoting, and is phony science. Eggs used to be the bad guy, as was red meat, as was protein, as was cheese and dairy foods, as was pork, as was bacon, as was salt...
As far as the legitimacy of a PhD goes, history is FULL of unbelievably dumb things eventually proven wrong that came out of the bloated ego-stroked minds of "doctors". There are PhD's who believe in fascism, PhD's who believe in UFO aliens, PhD's who believe in ghosts, PhD's who search for bigfoot, PhD's who believe the universe is a couple thousand years old, PhD's who believe in astrology, PhD's who believe world peace is an achievable goal, PhD's who believe certain racial subsets of humans are superior to others, PhD's and MD's who believe children with birth defects should not be allowed to live, There are MD's who believe that cancer can be treated by nothing more than talking to the tumor and playing it soothing music, and on and on and on... College professors are some of the nuttiest people I've ever met, and many of them rely on people who consider themselves lesser thinkers to parrot whatever silly idea they present as "fact" simply because they envy the letters after their name
Sugar is not bad. Having an adversarial relationship with food is unhealthy. It's at the core of why so many people are here seeking advice on how to eat better. Stop telling people that food is bad. It is irresponsible, confusing, wrong, and harmful
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Ditto..... It's all calories in calories outSugars bad if you're not burning it, & like Dr. Mark Hyman says, fat doesn't make you fat, sugar makes you fat. So full fat yogurt's the better option, there's not much difference if you eat either or, it's good as long as you hit your daily macrosI would try and steer clear of processed sugars if I were you, but if your goal is simply to lose weight then as everyone has said you need to be more focused on your calorie intake and when you eat. try not to eat later than 9:00 if you can as your body can break down foods better during the day.Fuchsiagenii wrote: »Sugar is BAD. The sugars that we are referring to as being bad are those that are refined and that come in processed foods - cakes, biscuits canned foods and ready made meals, cordials, fizzy drinks, etc.
The full fat yogurt is fine. The low fat yogurts tend to be laden with added sugar.
Your best bet is to go for natural live yogurts (Greek style thick) and add your own soft fruit. If you go for the flavoured yogurts, go for the ones with 3% or less of sugar in them - I was given that advice by my dietician.
Fructose is the sugar that is in fruit. This is fine as long as you eat the whole fruit.
Lactose is milk sugar.
Sugar gives a quick burst of energy and the blood sugars quickly drop. It contains no nutritional value.
Not all fats are bad for us, and the body does need a certain mount of fat to keep healthy and to help with the absorption of the fat soluble vitamins, namely Vitamin D, K, E, A.
NO, NO and NO to all the of the above. The 3 of you have no idea what you are talking about especially Fuchsai. You guys need to stop spreading misinformation and go learn.
So much this!
Don't get sucked into believing all sugars are bad they are not they are carbs and you can work them into your diet.... I did
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