Don't read this if brutal honesty (or profanity) offends you..
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I have not seen very many people at all that have done it successfully. Over on BB. I've never actually seen someone try it here, at least in the forums. Most here don't know what it is and I'm sure it won't go over well.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »Oohh I'm going to post this on one of my fasting groups, as there's so many whiny cry babies there.
My whole post got deleted once because I said the word "damn". I'll probably get banned after posting this
I read a post by a woman who's doing a PSMF and has lost only a couple of pounds after a month. She's clearly doing it wrong, but all she did in response to other people's comments was make excuses. I wish I could send her this blog post.
I actually considered running PSMF just an experiment to see if I physically and mentally could. I decided not to do it because I can see myself not strangling someone in the first 3 days.
Best to avoid any big bodybuilders who are using that for stage prep -- flying plates and dumbbells may be good for agility training but can certianly hurt!
True but I've seen people try it in the gym under the Dukan name. It's easy to tell when they are on it!0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »BA in sociology=least rigorous undergraduate degree available
+1, said the clinical psychologist
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This guy isn't being brutally honest. He's just blaming other people for his failure as a successful motivator. In the first two minutes of meeting someone, he's not assessing where they are and what are the best tools to help motivate them. He's merely assessing whether or not they will be successful with the single tool he's offering, and he can't even see that's what he's doing.
And he misspelled "title."0 -
Gosh, if being healthy were as easy as following this guy's simplistic advice we would all look fantastic. America is in the middle of an obesity crisis. The issue is much, much more complicated than this guy's advice can fix. Culture, emotional problems, poverty, just a simple lack of love and respect for each other are all things contributing to this problem.
I agree, however, that realizing your are responsible for fixing your own situation is the first step to take. I just disagree that it is that easy to do.0 -
This guy isn't being brutally honest. He's just blaming other people for his failure as a successful motivator. In the first two minutes of meeting someone, he's not assessing where they are and what are the best tools to help motivate them. He's merely assessing whether or not they will be successful with the single tool he's offering, and he can't even see that's what he's doing.
And he misspelled "title."
Ha Ha. Good point.0 -
Also don't read if you only have a few minutes and need someone to GET TO THE POINT. Why are you (the author) rambling about lions in captivity in a blog about weight loss? The swearing is the least of your problems. And you may be honest but you also sound a bit conceited. Just being honest.0
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Wow exactly what I needed to read this morning0
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Can he come live with me fora week? LOL It was not offensive and it is something we all should read.. because it's honestly not just about weigh loss.. It's about our lifestyles in general.
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This I awesome. Love the paragraph where he speaks about how privileged we all are. I always try to remember this when I am upset about something.0
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herrspoons wrote: »This guy isn't being brutally honest. He's just blaming other people for his failure as a successful motivator."
You are aware of the phrase 'lead a horse to water', right?
He's absolutely spot on.
I'll lay money on the people getting butthurt about his article being the ones who will ultimately fail in their goals.
There is a difference between getting butt hurt and disagreeing. I think if his approach works for someone that is great. I don't know, if someone tells me they don't give a s*** about me I tend to move on.
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Well I agree on the guy's take on what a treat is and that it's not to be consumed often. I wish more people on here did actually understand that rather than advocating regular consumption of junk and fast food "because you can fit it in your calories" (which many of us can NOT, if we plan to eat more than once a day.... not that I want to in the first place. I cook better than the McD's.)0
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Thank you for posting! Totally useful!
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Well I agree on the guy's take on what a treat is and that it's not to be consumed often. I wish more people on here did actually understand that rather than advocating regular consumption of junk and fast food "because you can fit it in your calories" (which many of us can NOT, if we plan to eat more than once a day.... not that I want to in the first place. I cook better than the McD's.)
I completely agree with you. I tried to fit it in. Doesn't work for me. Back to a "zero tolerance" attitude.0 -
Well I agree on the guy's take on what a treat is and that it's not to be consumed often. I wish more people on here did actually understand that rather than advocating regular consumption of junk and fast food "because you can fit it in your calories" (which many of us can NOT, if we plan to eat more than once a day.... not that I want to in the first place. I cook better than the McD's.)
I completely agree with you. I tried to fit it in. Doesn't work for me. Back to a "zero tolerance" attitude.
So because it doesn't work for YOU, nobody should do it?
I'm sorry but I fail to see how a 50 calorie piece of chocolate is a big deal in a 1200 calorie diet (or heck 200 calories of ice cream if someone has a 2000 calories diet). That guy is an idiot. Some people ONLY succeed BECAUSE of those treats. I wouldn't have lasted longer than his 8 weeks otherwise.0 -
No dude the point is that we do not like to be pressured and talked down to if we choose NOT to indulge. The point is not being bashed for individual health choices that can be necessary for those who have very little slack, if any, in their calorie allotment.0
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No dude the point is that we do not like to be pressured and talked down to if we choose NOT to indulge. The point is not being bashed for individual health choices that can be necessary for those who have very little slack, if any, in their calorie allotment.
This is going against what you just said above:
Since this quote above has nothing to do with being presssured to do something, nor does it even indicate a desire to NOT eat those things - it instead is indicating that the person CANNOT. Which IMO is bs, but whatever floats your boat.rather than advocating regular consumption of junk and fast food "because you can fit it in your calories" (which many of us can NOT, if we plan to eat more than once a day.... not that I want to in the first place. I cook better than the McD's.)
a) saying "hey, if you want to eat a treat every day or regularly, you can. It's just about fitting food you desire into your calorie allotment, not about eating x type of food, to meet your weight loss goals!" is not pressure. It's a factual statement given to people who complain about binging or being unable to maintain strict/restrictive diets and who clearly WANT to eat "junk" food.
b) If your goal is set so low that you are eating way less than any human should, then you simply need to tailor your treats to fit within your goals. My treats range from 70 to 300 calories, my daily goal (for slow weight loss) is 2200 calories gross. I would never eat suhc a low goal because I value my sanity and my lifting progress, but if I had to eat 1200 for some inane reason and I craved chocolate, then uh.. I would eat a 70 calorie piece of chocolate. See how that leaves over 1100 calories left for the rest of the day? And see how that didn't take up most of my calories? If you want a treat and refuse to set your target to a more reasonable calorie amount, then simply choose more calorie-friendly treats. Eat half of something instead of the whole thing. I bought jumbo reeses PB cups, which I bought at the start of January. I've only eaten one cup over the course of two days so that it would fit with my calories while letting me eat other food I wanted to eat.
Just because you don't think it works, doesn't mean it doesn't. If you don't want to eat "junk" food, then don't. I eat junk food almost daily and I've lost 27lbs, only ~15lbs left to go.-1 -
Well I agree on the guy's take on what a treat is and that it's not to be consumed often. I wish more people on here did actually understand that rather than advocating regular consumption of junk and fast food "because you can fit it in your calories" (which many of us can NOT, if we plan to eat more than once a day.... not that I want to in the first place. I cook better than the McD's.)
I completely agree with you. I tried to fit it in. Doesn't work for me. Back to a "zero tolerance" attitude.
And why didn't it fit? Were you eating 500 calorie treats? Is your daily goal unnecessarily low?
A treat doesn't mean half of your calories. I can eat a Lindt ball and that will be my treat for the day at ~70 calories only. IF I were eating only 1200 calories, that's still fairly reasonable.
I wish you luck on your zero tolerance attitude for the rest of your life.0 -
Trader Joe's. At the checkout lane. Nice little round tins of chocolate. 40 calories a piece. I have a ridiculously low calorie allotment because I'm old and short, and can fit those in my day if I wish.0
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Well I agree on the guy's take on what a treat is and that it's not to be consumed often. I wish more people on here did actually understand that rather than advocating regular consumption of junk and fast food "because you can fit it in your calories" (which many of us can NOT, if we plan to eat more than once a day.... not that I want to in the first place. I cook better than the McD's.)
I completely agree with you. I tried to fit it in. Doesn't work for me. Back to a "zero tolerance" attitude.
So because it doesn't work for YOU, nobody should do it?
I'm sorry but I fail to see how a 50 calorie piece of chocolate is a big deal in a 1200 calorie diet (or heck 200 calories of ice cream if someone has a 2000 calories diet). That guy is an idiot. Some people ONLY succeed BECAUSE of those treats. I wouldn't have lasted longer than his 8 weeks otherwise.
It doesn't work for me, personally. If it works for someone else I think that is great. My problem is I just can't have one....0
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