Girls and Weight training? Yes or No?
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Dude- why do you care?
Let us do what we want. It's none of your business if we lift or not.
If someone asks about it- sure go ahead- give your input- but you don't need to be throwing out a blanket subject with slightly condescending terminology.
As for you mr @m4xc4v413r4 do not confusing ownership of your sense of self as "being offended".
we are grown ups- hence why we aren't trying to be called "girl" by some guy we don't know. It's offensive to call someone woman a girl who you are not familiar with- it's a condescending ownership lingo that implies we are essnetially younger and don't know anything. It's rude. You don't have to like it- or agree with it- but the fact of the matter- two pages in -it's clear- WOMEN DON"T LIKE IT. perhaps you should take a social cue- and since you're a man- and not a woman- you don't get to tell a woman what she has the right to be offended over.
When you start being a woman- THEN you can tell us what we can- cannot be offended over. But as a man- you have no dog in this fight.
because you think it's impossible for that to be a reality?? Good job mansplaning that one away.
very specifically this is a forum for a calorie counting site.
Secondly the way the question is broached is condescending- like we don't know what we are doing- or we don't know better- and thirdly - as if his' random comment is going to really help or sway us- we don't know him or you. You can't just walk into my life and tell me to start doing something. That's not the way this works.
what makes you think we don't already know this???
His entire posts assumes we don't know any better.
Yes- the pretense is valid- but the way it's presented is completely ignorant.
>slow clap<
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lishie_rebooted wrote: »
I heard the wedding forums are just as bad as new parent forums
I was on the scariest wedding forum and even some of those ladies were scared of the parenting forums. I haven't ever ventured there to compare though.
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No worries OP. Just wait until some poor uneducated "female" comes along and makes an offhand comment about not wanting to "bulk up." Its like a gazelle running in front of a pack of hungry lions.
Icebunny33 wrote: »I dont lift weights because I am a total newb and wouldnt know what the hell I was doing. I would love to learn though so that I dont injure myself and I acheive my weight loss goals. If the OP is willing to offer up some knowledge or insights on this, I for one, am very interested.
I'll try answer any questions you have to the best of my knowledge. Most would have to be answered by someone in your local gym etc.
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Girl:
"In casual context, the word has positive uses, as evidenced by its use in titles of popular music. It has been used playfully for people acting in an energetic fashion or as a way of unifying women of all ages on the basis of their once having been girls. These positive uses mean gender rather than age."
So now that I got that off my chest....
I think weight lifting is extremely beneficial to anyone's training plan. For me personally it has helped reshape my body and given me great amounts of confidence. I think weight lifting is empowering and it is much more fun than being on a piece of cardio equipment. I also find it easier to gauge my progress and my gains; adding weight to a lift or a particular exercise seems much more tangible to me than shaving off a few seconds from my mile time.
Much depends on the context.
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lishie_rebooted wrote: »
I heard the wedding forums are just as bad as new parent forums
I might be biased since I just had a kid, but I unfortunately had to wade through both at different times. While both are bad, the kid ones were (obviously my opinion) WAY worse.0 -
DangerousDUCK wrote: »
I'll try answer any questions you have to the best of my knowledge. Most would have to be answered by someone in your local gym etc.
bwahhhhhh no
edited the bold so you can see what my no relates to
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anarchysbitch wrote: »I'm sure people will take offence to this too but why are people so *kitten* precious these days? Seriously, political correctness has gotten outta hand! If the intent behind the OP's question wasn't nasty then why the *kitten* is everyone getting on thier damn high horses? Toughen up people!
Your hypocrisy is overwhelming.0 -
I read as much as I could online and watch a ton of videos about form. I also picked a pre-designed beginners program with very basic lifts that weren't complicated.
Nerd Fitness had a great series about lifting called strength training 101:
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2014/01/14/strength-training-101-where-do-i-start/
I chose strong lifts as a starting program, and there's a great group for women on here.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/4601-stronglifts-5x5-for-women
Also New Rules of Lifting for Women
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/102-new-rules-of-lifting-for-women-nrol4w0 -
I read as much as I could online and watch a ton of videos about form. I also picked a pre-designed beginners program with very basic lifts that weren't complicated.
Nerd Fitness had a great series about lifting called strength training 101:
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2014/01/14/strength-training-101-where-do-i-start/
I chose strong lifts as a starting program, and there's a great group for women on here.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/4601-stronglifts-5x5-for-women
I agree with you here, Stronglifts 5x5 is a very good plan IMO0 -
DangerousDUCK wrote: »
I'll try answer any questions you have to the best of my knowledge. Most would have to be answered by someone in your local gym etc.
You're a self-proclaimed n00b at lifting, and you're offering advice to someone who is also a n00b.
Classy.
If you want to 'hit dat' as much as you portray yourself to want to, I strongly suggest Craigslist.0 -
_Terrapin_ wrote: »
A guy digging a hole and throwing the dirt on himself. And/or someone who hasn't realized their lack of oxygen is due to their head being in close proximity to their backside.
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lishie_rebooted wrote: »
I was about to suggest the ETP group.
There are great resources and real knowledge there, without the condescension
Thanks for the tip! Although, I dont think the OP was purposely trying to be condescending. While I think his delivery from the original post lacked finesse (OP, women dont like being called "girls" and sometimes "female" takes on a rather rude tone), I think that the only thing hes guilty of is curiosity (how many women are into lifting) and lack of eloquence (by calling us women girls). I think he asked a question and meant nothing by it. Maybe hes excited about lifting and wants to share that. Maybe he knows some women who he thinks could benefit but who are misinformed on the subject (I.E. If I lift, I'll start to get big like a man) Everyone has different ways of doing and saying things and unfortunately these different ways sometimes clash. However, I dont think its right of me to just assume the OP knows NOTHING on the subject just because he isnt conveying his ideas in a way that makes everyone feel warm and fuzzy or is exactly PC.
But again, thank you for the tip. I will check it out right now ^_^0 -
Icebunny33 wrote: »I dont lift weights because I am a total newb and wouldnt know what the hell I was doing. I would love to learn though so that I dont injure myself and I acheive my weight loss goals. If the OP is willing to offer up some knowledge or insights on this, I for one, am very interested.
You want someone with a more proven track record to advise you.
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This thread is hilarious. What was the point of this thread anyways? There is some women on here who have been lifting longer than the amount of years I have been lifting.0
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I read as much as I could online and watch a ton of videos about form. I also picked a pre-designed beginners program with very basic lifts that weren't complicated.
Nerd Fitness had a great series about lifting called strength training 101:
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2014/01/14/strength-training-101-where-do-i-start/
I literally JUST downloaded this like.... a half hour ago! Thank you!!!
I chose strong lifts as a starting program, and there's a great group for women on here.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/4601-stronglifts-5x5-for-women
Im made of jelly and marshmallow fluff lol, I might have to start somewhere lower on the scale, BUT starting is what I am going to do!
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OP's intent may not have been to be condescending, but when numerous women are saying it was, maybe he should listen. Intentions matter far less than effects. I may not intend to run you over with my car, but does saying "sorry, I didn't mean to" lessen your bodily injuries?0
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Icebunny33 wrote: »I dont lift weights because I am a total newb and wouldnt know what the hell I was doing. I would love to learn though so that I dont injure myself and I acheive my weight loss goals. If the OP is willing to offer up some knowledge or insights on this, I for one, am very interested.
Everyone started somewhere. Even Mr Olympia.
Weight training/resistence training can be broken down into essentially three categories
Body weight
Traditional Weights
Cardio weights (which IS resistance training)
What we are specifically talking about here is often referred to as "heavy" lifting- and includes strength and or hypertrophy (building size)- and you'll want to see the words "progressive loading.
It has less to do with muscle endurance- which is how long can you do the exercise for.
Progresssive loading can fall into body weight or traditional weights- like barbells or dumbbells (BB/DB for short hand)
If you have a gym- or think you might like a gym setting check out
new rules of lifting/New rules of lifting for women (same book essentially so not a crisis if you don't get the for woman one) - you'll see this written as NROLFW quiet a bit.
Starting Strength
Strong Lifts
Strong curves (this is a lower body focused program by Bret Conteres (sp)- and it's an excellent program for developing your lower body and imporoving shape/size and conditioning)
All of these will include progressive loading- and no- none of it will make you bulky without extra food, years of hard work and or illegal supplements.
If you don't think you'll like the gym- and you think body weight's might be something you like I urge you to look into
Body By You
Convict Conditioning
You are your own gym
Nerd Fitness (as mentioned- best beginner body weight
Cardio weights: like body pump- body attack or whatever those names for stuff like that are- even cross fit to a degree are typically resistance training- but less about progressive loading and focus on doing the exercise better in that time frame- yes adding weights as nice- but it will be a lot lower weights.
These fall a little more into the I need something to do right now and I have limited space/time: Good workouts- but not good over all programs for long term development.
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Icebunny33 wrote: »
Im made of jelly and marshmallow fluff lol, I might have to start somewhere lower on the scale, BUT starting is what I am going to do!
I started lifting when I was still around 250 lbs. But, please find people with experience to ask advice from. Not just someone that has figured out how to bold his text.
ETA: JoRocka would be one of those you should listen to0 -
boy am I glad I am a normal girl and don't get offended by the most ridiculous things...
anyways, i used to do the only cardio thing and knew I should use weights. Tried lifting at a regular gym and I definately agree with the whole trying to get a machine or dumbells issue. Especially the squat rack, that was a nightmare. The time I did it the results were so much better, but I just couldn't deal with it being so busy and difficult to do what you want so I went back to only cardio. Went right back to crappy results. Then I discovered crossfit, so much better! I get the results of lifting but don't have to fight over what I need and get cardio too!0 -
Not a girl; I'm a nice old lady. I attend a power class (sixty minutes of guided group lift to music) but the machines bore me to tears. Also, no amount of weight training will make me look good naked, but I'm OK with that.
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Everyone started somewhere. Even Mr Olympia.
Weight training/resistence training can be broken down into essentially three categories
Body weight
Traditional Weights
Cardio weights (which IS resistance training)
What we are specifically talking about here is often referred to as "heavy" lifting- and includes strength and or hypertrophy (building size)- and you'll want to see the words "progressive loading.
It has less to do with muscle endurance- which is how long can you do the exercise for.
Progresssive loading can fall into body weight or traditional weights- like barbells or dumbbells (BB/DB for short hand)
If you have a gym- or think you might like a gym setting check out
new rules of lifting/New rules of lifting for women (same book essentially so not a crisis if you don't get the for woman one) - you'll see this written as NROLFW quiet a bit.
Starting Strength
Strong Lifts
Strong curves (this is a lower body focused program by Bret Conteres (sp)- and it's an excellent program for developing your lower body and imporoving shape/size and conditioning)
All of these will include progressive loading- and no- none of it will make you bulky without extra food, years of hard work and or illegal supplements.
If you don't think you'll like the gym- and you think body weight's might be something you like I urge you to look into
Body By You
Convict Conditioning
You are your own gym
Nerd Fitness (as mentioned- best beginner body weight
Cardio weights: like body pump- body attack or whatever those names for stuff like that are- even cross fit to a degree are typically resistance training- but less about progressive loading and focus on doing the exercise better in that time frame- yes adding weights as nice- but it will be a lot lower weights.
These fall a little more into the I need something to do right now and I have limited space/time: Good workouts- but not good over all programs for long term development.
Angry trainer fitness
Daily Hiit
Zuzuka LIght (youtube)
Loving Fit by Tatiana
Bloglaties girl has some good ones
Fitness Blender is also an option
OMG thank you for this. I am going to add this to other peoples replies. Mind if I add you?0 -
Everyone started somewhere. Even Mr Olympia.
Weight training/resistence training can be broken down into essentially three categories
Body weight
Traditional Weights
Cardio weights (which IS resistance training)
What we are specifically talking about here is often referred to as "heavy" lifting- and includes strength and or hypertrophy (building size)- and you'll want to see the words "progressive loading.
It has less to do with muscle endurance- which is how long can you do the exercise for.
Progresssive loading can fall into body weight or traditional weights- like barbells or dumbbells (BB/DB for short hand)
If you have a gym- or think you might like a gym setting check out
new rules of lifting/New rules of lifting for women (same book essentially so not a crisis if you don't get the for woman one) - you'll see this written as NROLFW quiet a bit.
Starting Strength
Strong Lifts
Strong curves (this is a lower body focused program by Bret Conteres (sp)- and it's an excellent program for developing your lower body and imporoving shape/size and conditioning)
All of these will include progressive loading- and no- none of it will make you bulky without extra food, years of hard work and or illegal supplements.
If you don't think you'll like the gym- and you think body weight's might be something you like I urge you to look into
Body By You
Convict Conditioning
You are your own gym
Nerd Fitness (as mentioned- best beginner body weight
Cardio weights: like body pump- body attack or whatever those names for stuff like that are- even cross fit to a degree are typically resistance training- but less about progressive loading and focus on doing the exercise better in that time frame- yes adding weights as nice- but it will be a lot lower weights.
These fall a little more into the I need something to do right now and I have limited space/time: Good workouts- but not good over all programs for long term development.
Angry trainer fitness
Daily Hiit
Zuzuka LIght (youtube)
Loving Fit by Tatiana
Bloglaties girl has some good ones
Fitness Blender is also an option
It's good to see something informative in this thread, but ...
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Just read the OP, let's see where this clarion call for derp went.
@DangerousDUCK - good job new fish.0 -
Everyone started somewhere. Even Mr Olympia.
Weight training/resistence training can be broken down into essentially three categories
Body weight
Traditional Weights
Cardio weights (which IS resistance training)
What we are specifically talking about here is often referred to as "heavy" lifting- and includes strength and or hypertrophy (building size)- and you'll want to see the words "progressive loading.
It has less to do with muscle endurance- which is how long can you do the exercise for.
Progresssive loading can fall into body weight or traditional weights- like barbells or dumbbells (BB/DB for short hand)
If you have a gym- or think you might like a gym setting check out
new rules of lifting/New rules of lifting for women (same book essentially so not a crisis if you don't get the for woman one) - you'll see this written as NROLFW quiet a bit.
Starting Strength
Strong Lifts
Strong curves (this is a lower body focused program by Bret Conteres (sp)- and it's an excellent program for developing your lower body and imporoving shape/size and conditioning)
All of these will include progressive loading- and no- none of it will make you bulky without extra food, years of hard work and or illegal supplements.
If you don't think you'll like the gym- and you think body weight's might be something you like I urge you to look into
Body By You
Convict Conditioning
You are your own gym
Nerd Fitness (as mentioned- best beginner body weight
Cardio weights: like body pump- body attack or whatever those names for stuff like that are- even cross fit to a degree are typically resistance training- but less about progressive loading and focus on doing the exercise better in that time frame- yes adding weights as nice- but it will be a lot lower weights.
These fall a little more into the I need something to do right now and I have limited space/time: Good workouts- but not good over all programs for long term development.
Angry trainer fitness
Daily Hiit
Zuzuka LIght (youtube)
Loving Fit by Tatiana
Bloglaties girl has some good ones
Fitness Blender is also an option
You didn't put any in bold - how am I supposed to know you know what you're talking about?0 -
Crossfitkeke wrote: »boy am I glad I am a normal girl and don't get offended by the most ridiculous things...
anyways, i used to do the only cardio thing and knew I should use weights. Tried lifting at a regular gym and I definately agree with the whole trying to get a machine or dumbells issue. Especially the squat rack, that was a nightmare. The time I did it the results were so much better, but I just couldn't deal with it being so busy and difficult to do what you want so I went back to only cardio. Went right back to crappy results. Then I discovered crossfit, so much better! I get the results of lifting but don't have to fight over what I need and get cardio too!
It's not what he said, it's how he said it.0 -
Everyone started somewhere. Even Mr Olympia.
Weight training/resistence training can be broken down into essentially three categories
Body weight
Traditional Weights
Cardio weights (which IS resistance training)
What we are specifically talking about here is often referred to as "heavy" lifting- and includes strength and or hypertrophy (building size)- and you'll want to see the words "progressive loading.
It has less to do with muscle endurance- which is how long can you do the exercise for.
Progresssive loading can fall into body weight or traditional weights- like barbells or dumbbells (BB/DB for short hand)
If you have a gym- or think you might like a gym setting check out
new rules of lifting/New rules of lifting for women (same book essentially so not a crisis if you don't get the for woman one) - you'll see this written as NROLFW quiet a bit.
Starting Strength
Strong Lifts
Strong curves (this is a lower body focused program by Bret Conteres (sp)- and it's an excellent program for developing your lower body and imporoving shape/size and conditioning)
All of these will include progressive loading- and no- none of it will make you bulky without extra food, years of hard work and or illegal supplements.
If you don't think you'll like the gym- and you think body weight's might be something you like I urge you to look into
Body By You
Convict Conditioning
You are your own gym
Nerd Fitness (as mentioned- best beginner body weight
Cardio weights: like body pump- body attack or whatever those names for stuff like that are- even cross fit to a degree are typically resistance training- but less about progressive loading and focus on doing the exercise better in that time frame- yes adding weights as nice- but it will be a lot lower weights.
These fall a little more into the I need something to do right now and I have limited space/time: Good workouts- but not good over all programs for long term development.
Angry trainer fitness
Daily Hiit
Zuzuka LIght (youtube)
Loving Fit by Tatiana
Bloglaties girl has some good ones
Fitness Blender is also an option
@JoRocka has spend a long time under the bar. She knows her *kitten*.
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Crossfitkeke wrote: »boy am I glad I am a normal girl and don't get offended by the most ridiculous things...
anyways, i used to do the only cardio thing and knew I should use weights. Tried lifting at a regular gym and I definately agree with the whole trying to get a machine or dumbells issue. Especially the squat rack, that was a nightmare. The time I did it the results were so much better, but I just couldn't deal with it being so busy and difficult to do what you want so I went back to only cardio. Went right back to crappy results. Then I discovered crossfit, so much better! I get the results of lifting but don't have to fight over what I need and get cardio too!
Implying that those of us who found the op offensive are not normal?
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DangerousDUCK wrote: »
I agree with you here, Stronglifts 5x5 is a very good plan IMO
I'm sure the girls here were waiting for your stamp of approval.
I'd rather suggest that a program be more oriented towards the person's personal history context, objectives and equipment availability. For example, SL5x5 isn't the program I'd choose for a beginner that needs first some basic stability and body movement work.
(see JoR post upstream for good recommendations)
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chivalryder wrote: »
It's not what he said, it's how he said it.
I see nothing wrong with how he said it, so.....?
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