Is it possible to lose fat and gain muscle?
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rachylouise87 wrote: »would HIIT training combined with resistance be enough to lose fat and gain muscle? i have been doing this for 2 months lost some body fat and i can see muscle definition but it is certainly very slow. [/quoteto
to answer your question, yes. My friend started doing that and got really good results but. It doesn't matter what you do it will be a long journey. All you can do is enjoy it.
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I lost 10% body fat and stayed same weight in one year eating at maintenance, lifting heavy and doing Crossfit. I followed a nutritional plan called Eat to Perform. I don't sell it. I just use it. I ate starchy carbs around my workouts, tracked my macros and ate lower carb on my rest days. I found it easy and flexible. If your goal is performance, it helps a lot with that and the recomp just comes with it. If you want to change your body comp more quickly, people say (I don't know, never tried) that a bulk and cut is better. For me, ETP has fundamentally changed my relationship with food for the better and has led to a ton of PR's as well.0
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1) Not true. In any case, there's apparently a commonality of views on this. 2) Lol. I'm good, thanks.@MrM27 - "correct" people if you feel you must, but the hostile sort of smugness that's all over some of your posts here is just unnecessary. People are offering what they know in good faith. No need to be rude about it that I can see.
Hostility and smugness are all subjective. You should work on how you view others.0 -
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No, no one's forcing me to get involved. But I'm a member here, too, and I had an interest in this conversation. People come here not only information, but for support. The whole point of MFP is for members to encourage each other in their weight loss goals. If the first things a newcomer encounters are posts like some of yours above, and they get turned off, that's not really being helpful, is it. Assuming that the goals of providing information include being helpful in such a way that it actually gets heard (along with it being "correct").0
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If a newcomer is going to lurk this forum and read 1 post and get turned away then I question their desire to achieve their set out goal. I have no control over that. I spent a good amount of time just lurking on this forum along with another one before I got involved. I fact checked everything and sought out information for myself without simply accepting regurgitated bro-science.No, no one's forcing me to get involved. But I'm a member here, too, and I had an interest in this conversation. People come here not only information, but for support. The whole point of MFP is for members to encourage each other in their weight loss goals. If the first things a newcomer encounters are posts like some of yours above, and they get turned off, that's not really being helpful, is it. Assuming that the goals of providing information include being helpful in such a way that it actually gets heard (along with it being "correct").
And as far as I'm concerned MFP's primary function isn't to support everyone on weight loss goals. We all have different goals. Support comes in many forms.
Well, you do, you can choose to say things in one way and not another.
And I'm not sure that only science-oriented, laser-focused members have a right to try to improve their lives by using - and participating - in MFP's forums.
You do know quite a lot, that's not even in question. I think it'd be a shame if all that knowledge didn't get across to the people who most need it. Suboptimal use of MFP imo.0 -
eating in a caloric deficit while maintaining my strength along with low intensity cardio seems to be working for me and yes I eat breakfast!
Maintaining strength isn't the same as actually add lean muscle. To ensure lean muscle gain (which one is adding mass), a calorie surplus is usually needed.
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Is it possible? Yes. Probable for general population? Probably not.MikeyM1982 wrote: »
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If a newcomer is going to lurk this forum and read 1 post and get turned away then I question their desire to achieve their set out goal. I have no control over that. I spent a good amount of time just lurking on this forum along with another one before I got involved. I fact checked everything and sought out information for myself without simply accepting regurgitated bro-science.No, no one's forcing me to get involved. But I'm a member here, too, and I had an interest in this conversation. People come here not only information, but for support. The whole point of MFP is for members to encourage each other in their weight loss goals. If the first things a newcomer encounters are posts like some of yours above, and they get turned off, that's not really being helpful, is it. Assuming that the goals of providing information include being helpful in such a way that it actually gets heard (along with it being "correct").
And as far as I'm concerned MFP's primary function isn't to support everyone on weight loss goals. We all have different goals. Support comes in many forms.
Well, you do, you can choose to say things in one way and not another.
And I'm not sure that only science-oriented, laser-focused members have a right to try to improve their lives by using - and participating - in MFP's forums.
You do know quite a lot, that's not even in question. I think it'd be a shame if all that knowledge didn't get across to the people who most need it. Suboptimal use of MFP imo.
Anyone has the right to use the forum. I wouldn't stop using it if I didn't like some people's attitudes. I can only be me. If someone doesn't like me and isn't receptive to any information I might be able to provide them then I think they lose out. I'm not going to start sugar coating everything and telling people are the things they consider supportive, which is a lot of the time, to validate their ideas. You could instead of trying to change me, try to convince all those sweet, nice people to go apply themselves and do some real studying and stop spreading false information.
So basically the outcome of this conversation is you've said your piece and told me how much you don't like my approach. I'm okay with that. I think at this point we can move on and continue our paths. If you didn't notice, this was your first interaction with me so in reality what I do doesn't affect you. At least it shouldn't.
It's not the part of the message that contains information about fitness that people have been responding negatively to, but ok. I'm not interested in changing you, just in calling attention to how the way some of your messages above were framed might create some noise in the signal you were trying to get across. Although, the truth is, more people than just you communicate that way here. I guess I've been a little tired of snark-fests in threads, and I've seen others similarly frustrated. Beyond those kinds of posts being unpleasant to read (imo), like I said, I worry that it puts people off - maybe in the same way you seem to worry that people are being misinformed. (We have actually interacted before this, at some point, can't remember about what exactly, though.) Anyway, sure, agree, you say something, I say something else, let's call the whole thing off.0 -
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To answer the original question: yes, it is possible to lose weight and gain muscle. I did; BUT, I was skinny fat and not very strong to start...so that was a big advantage for me. Here are my suggestions: lift heavy, high protein, small calorie deficit, some cardio.
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Talk to your doctor or nutritionist they will say to help lose weight don't skip breakfast. That is the important meal to eat.0
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At a point in time I was really concerned because I had gained some weight. My doctor said that muscle weights more then fat that is why I was gaining.0
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neverquit33 wrote: »HITT is a good to do on a empty stomach?! I do recall the last time I tried that, I almost passed the hell out. Never again. haha!
Everyone reacts differently and we all have different lifestyle and patterns.
I exercise (including my HIIT Camp) on empty stomach. I guess it's because I have trained my body to this pattern, for I don't know how many years, exercising on absolute empty stomach is my body's comfort zone including running half marathons.
However I have to drink my tea/coffee and food immediately after exercise. Else I've potential of roasting the nearest furniture and eating the wood. I'm very much capable ;-)0 -
It's a slow process, but yes you can. I have been doing it. Very slowly and incrementally. It works faster for men than for women.0
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Talk to your doctor or nutritionist they will say to help lose weight don't skip breakfast. That is the important meal to eat.At a point in time I was really concerned because I had gained some weight. My doctor said that muscle weights more then fat that is why I was gaining.
Well, this thread has come full circle.
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You absolutely can. Learn food and how it they effect your body.0
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FitnessTrainer69 wrote: »You absolutely can. Learn food and how it they effect your body.
Care to elaborate, outside of what has been said about recomp?0 -
Yes, you can. You have to eat at maintenance levels or just slightly under. The process is slow and takes a looong time according to most.I've done so for the past few months, but no one has any idea how the hell I'm doing so, considering how much I eat to try and gain weight.
Last check (a few days ago) I'd gained 0.5 kg muscle and lost 1.2kg fat in three weeks.Lgabrjolek wrote: »Lean muscle is gained with higher protein intake (don't over do it). You want to gain lean muscle weight, so stay away from bad fatty foods and limit your sugar intake. If you do a lot of cardio, you will lose weight more rapidly. Lift full slow reps and sets. Push yourself hard and rejuvenate your muscles with proteins (baked fish, chicken breast baked) after your workout. If you stay away from sweets and junk food, you can guarantee yourself results. You will even gain more energy to perform your workouts. MY BEST ADVICE: NEVER SKIP BREAKFAST! SKIPPING CAN ACTUALLY MAKE YOU GAIN UNWANTED FAT!
All the best!
*Live long and prosper!*
-Liz
These guys are right! That's what's happening to me right now. I've lost 15 lbs currently but I didn't lose muscle mass. In fact I got stronger which indicates I've been gaining muscle because it's very rare for you to get stronger and not gain muscle. Hell...right now I'm benching my own body weight (195 lbs.) for my PR and will go for 205 lbs one of these days.
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