My 600 Pound Life?
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Yes, she kicked him out. Good riddance!I watched the Zsalynn episode this morning and her husband was such a jerk. I hope she has left him by now.
http://www.aol.com/article/2015/01/08/my-600-lb-life-star-shed-316-pounds-and-unsupportive-hubby/21126664/0 -
Yes, she kicked him out. Good riddance!I watched the Zsalynn episode this morning and her husband was such a jerk. I hope she has left him by now.
http://www.aol.com/article/2015/01/08/my-600-lb-life-star-shed-316-pounds-and-unsupportive-hubby/21126664/
That's great!! He was a total a$$face!!
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Zsalynn was probably one of the better stories on My 600 Pound Life. She really changed for her daughter. I was so impressed with her. And her struggling, but she really worked hard to lose weight. And have the strength to kick her husband to the curb. Kudos to her!0
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You guys and your spoilers! I've not watched the latest episode yet
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Just finished Joe's story. Couple things about his story annoyed me, and a couple things I thought were really good about his episode.
First, his "trauma" or issue or whatever that drove him to overeat was that his dad didn't pay much attention to him. Gave him lots of games and movies instead of, I dunno, hugging him all day long or tossing a ball with him like a hallmark card commercial come to life. Good grief. Guy must have had a pretty great life if that was the best excuse for his overeating habit that he could craft.
And, unless I missed it, no one seemed to notice or comment on the fact that his mother must have been 500+ lbs herself. What drove her to over eat to where she's almost the size of her 700 lb son? It's almost like there may have been some bad habits that went on in the same household or something.
She should have her own episode.
What I liked was that they didn't do the surgery until the end, and that Joe had to learn about diet, nutrition labels, and eating right from a nutritionist and put what he learned into practice to lose weight himself in a sensible way prior to surgery. It also looked like they showed him tracking his diet on the MFP app, but that camera shot of his logging was too quick for me to be certain.
This episode was much more sensible in that Joe appeared to get some actual direction on what to do, rather than that starvation jello diet that Angel apparently concocted herself to lose an obscene amount of weight in a few months.
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This is just an observation, but has anyone else noticed that a lot of these patients have really terrible teeth?
And yeah, it was nice to see someone (Joe) have to learn to read labels/eat right and work through some issues in therapy BEFORE surgery.0 -
AngryViking1970 wrote: »This is just an observation, but has anyone else noticed that a lot of these patients have really terrible teeth?
And yeah, it was nice to see someone (Joe) have to learn to read labels/eat right and work through some issues in therapy BEFORE surgery.
I noticed this too. I think it's because these people just can't get to a dentist. I think most of them would have difficulty getting in and out of a standard dentist chair.
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Yes, I think this is more to do with socio-economic factors than mobility issues. They often live in pretty bad housing too, and seem to be not very well educated.AngryViking1970 wrote: »This is just an observation, but has anyone else noticed that a lot of these patients have really terrible teeth?
Wow, that comes across as really judgemental, but statistics show that if you're poor and have low standards of education, you're more likely to be very obese than a richer, more educated person.
This latest series of stories is making me more uncomfortable than previous ones. It's like the director says "OK, we have to make you look as gigantic and pathetic as we can. Can you take all your clothes off and try to wash yourself? Excellent. Now try to get out of the chair. Eat this. Now this. Let's take some footage of your terrible shoes..."
Also, Joe annoyed me with his whining. Usually I feel desperately sorry for the patients, but this time I was irritated by him and more concerned about his mother who could barely move.0 -
The nutritionist telling Joe and his mom that everything in their fridge/pantry was terrible was a really awkward scene. I don't understand how someone can be 800 lbs and not realize that dousing everything in ranch dressing is a bad idea. Dr. Now said he had to be eating 10,000+ calories a day to gain 15 lbs in a month.
I wish the best for everyone on the show and hope they all succeed but Joe seems doomed to fail, simply because he doesn't understand that he's doing it to himself. His mother sitting next to him at nearly 500 lbs herself, crying about "I don't know what to do" after she just brought him a giant tray of nachos with a soda AND a shake... smh0 -
I remember cry, asking myself how did I get so fat while eating a large supreme pizza until it finally clicked.levitateme wrote: »I wish the best for everyone on the show and hope they all succeed but Joe seems doomed to fail, simply because he doesn't understand that he's doing it to himself. His mother sitting next to him at nearly 500 lbs herself, crying about "I don't know what to do" after she just brought him a giant tray of nachos with a soda AND a shake... smh
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Ahh spoilers! lol. I have Joe's story recorded and I'm going to watch it after I get home from the gym tonight.
I feel awkward myself because I usually eat my dinner while watching this show.0 -
Did anyone see Joe's story last night (3.11.15)? I was so moved by the fact that he was able to lose 150 POUNDS pre-surgery! I wish the show didn't end before he had lost more of the weight. I need an update on him!0
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Did anyone see Joe's story last night (3.11.15)? I was so moved by the fact that he was able to lose 150 POUNDS pre-surgery! I wish the show didn't end before he had lost more of the weight. I need an update on him!
I'm going to have to catch this...hopefully it's up OnDemand soon. I missed it last night
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I haven't read the whole topic. I haven't seen the show, but if it's scaring people into working harder, maybe I should try an episode. Is it on YouTube?0
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It was amazing. If you caught a glimpse of his phone pre-surgery when he talked about counting calories, I'm pretty sure that was MFP he was using.Did anyone see Joe's story last night (3.11.15)? I was so moved by the fact that he was able to lose 150 POUNDS pre-surgery! I wish the show didn't end before he had lost more of the weight. I need an update on him!0 -
DucklingPrincess wrote: »I haven't read the whole topic. I haven't seen the show, but if it's scaring people into working harder, maybe I should try an episode. Is it on YouTube?
It's on HULU. If you have a cable/sat company, it might be on demand too, even if you don't subscribe to the channel.0 -
I think there are bound to be spoilers in this thread.
Maybe the OP can edit the title to add "Spoilers"?
I was amazed and very happy that Joe's story actually didn't include the surgery - not because I mind the surgery (I'm fascinated with all things medical); it's the fact that he lost so much weight without it (before it) that made me happy. Way to go, Joe!
For the record, I'm a non-secondary educated middle-income moron who can talk circles around nearly everyone I know. I agree that it's not lack of education that's making these people so overweight (and that makes "lower economic status" individuals as a group more overweight than the college-educated). We all KNOW that too much high-calorie food makes us fat; my eight-year-old knows that. And any kindergartener can parrot that "vegetables and fruit are healthy and chips aren't!" Simplistic or not, and giving wiggle room for one's definition of healthy, granted. But come on.
It is a comfort thing, and it is taught. "Turn to food when times are bad." The fact that food gives an automatic rush of sorts, physically, cements the idea. (Case in point: Joe's mother...and you'll notice that there are, generally, other very overweight people in the families of the profiled people in this series.) We all need to turn to SOMETHING. If a person can't get away on vacation, go power-shopping or what-have-you, and/or can't afford therapy which can give the tools to find other comfort strategies, yes, it's as likely as not that said person will turn to something s/he can afford: food, and lots of it.
I finally caught Amber's story and her progress was absolutely amazing. I hope she gets that physical therapy to help her to walk more comfortably.0 -
shadow2soul wrote: »
It was amazing. If you caught a glimpse of his phone pre-surgery when he talked about counting calories, I'm pretty sure that was MFP he was using.Did anyone see Joe's story last night (3.11.15)? I was so moved by the fact that he was able to lose 150 POUNDS pre-surgery! I wish the show didn't end before he had lost more of the weight. I need an update on him!
It was MFP that he was using. Shout out to MFP!
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Lourdesong wrote: »Just finished Joe's story. Couple things about his story annoyed me, and a couple things I thought were really good about his episode.
First, his "trauma" or issue or whatever that drove him to overeat was that his dad didn't pay much attention to him. Gave him lots of games and movies instead of, I dunno, hugging him all day long or tossing a ball with him like a hallmark card commercial come to life. Good grief. Guy must have had a pretty great life if that was the best excuse for his overeating habit that he could craft.
And, unless I missed it, no one seemed to notice or comment on the fact that his mother must have been 500+ lbs herself. What drove her to over eat to where she's almost the size of her 700 lb son? It's almost like there may have been some bad habits that went on in the same household or something.
She should have her own episode.
What I liked was that they didn't do the surgery until the end, and that Joe had to learn about diet, nutrition labels, and eating right from a nutritionist and put what he learned into practice to lose weight himself in a sensible way prior to surgery. It also looked like they showed him tracking his diet on the MFP app, but that camera shot of his logging was too quick for me to be certain.
This episode was much more sensible in that Joe appeared to get some actual direction on what to do, rather than that starvation jello diet that Angel apparently concocted herself to lose an obscene amount of weight in a few months.
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Although, I cringed when I heard the "nutritionist" say that he shouldn't eat the egg yolks because they contain cholesterol. Arg! Dietary cholesterol does NOT increase serum cholesterol. Eat the damn yolks!
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I think there are bound to be spoilers in this thread. Maybe the OP can edit the title to add "Spoilers"?
I was amazed and very happy that Joe's story actually didn't include the surgery - not because I mind the surgery (I'm fascinated with all things medical); it's the fact that he lost so much weight without it (before it) that made me happy. Way to go, Joe!
For the record, I'm a non-secondary educated middle-income moron who can talk circles around nearly everyone I know. I agree that it's not lack of education that's making these people so overweight (and that makes "lower economic status" individuals as a group more overweight than the college-educated). We all KNOW that too much high-calorie food makes us fat; my eight-year-old knows that. And any kindergartener can parrot that "vegetables and fruit are healthy and chips aren't!" Simplistic or not, and giving wiggle room for one's definition of healthy, granted. But come on.
It is a comfort thing, and it is taught. "Turn to food when times are bad." The fact that food gives an automatic rush of sorts, physically, cements the idea. (Case in point: Joe's mother...and you'll notice that there are, generally, other very overweight people in the families of the profiled people in this series.) We all need to turn to SOMETHING. If a person can't get away on vacation, go power-shopping or what-have-you, and/or can't afford therapy which can give the tools to find other comfort strategies, yes, it's as likely as not that said person will turn to something s/he can afford: food, and lots of it.
I finally caught Amber's story and her progress was absolutely amazing. I hope she gets that physical therapy to help her to walk more comfortably.
I think there is a wisdom factor, rather than educational. I've had people here post telling me horrible pseudoscience about my WOE, while insisting it must be true because they learned it in their nutrition class in college. I also know high school dropouts who have still figured out how to stay at maintenance while working in a restaurant kitchen all day. It's not income, either, because there are plenty of families getting by on poverty level or less because they only cook from scratch using basic ingredients instead of paying double or triple to get the same food from McDonald's or the frozen food aisle, with the whole house at normal weights.
People are choosing to eat fast food 3 times a day and snack on entire hungry man dinners in between. Or, they're eating 4000 calories of Lean Cuisine and chasing it with Diet Coke, thinking that because it's diet food, that's all that matters.
There's a show that used to be on in the UK, and I think Oprah's channel aired it here for a while, called Super Sized vs Super Skinny. Some old episodes are on youtube. In the earlier seasons of the show, it would start with each person seeing an entire week's worth of their food dropped into a giant clear cylinder, so they could see how much they were actually eating. Most of them had no clue, and were mortified when they saw the food just keep dropping and dropping. The rest of the show was the overweight and underweight person swapping diets for 3 days, and the overweight ones would be hangry, living on Red Bull and a slice of pizza every day, while they'd watch the underweight one unable to eat even 1/4 of the food on their plate at every meal.0 -
Wow, that comes across as really judgemental, but statistics show that if you're poor and have low standards of education, you're more likely to be very obese than a richer, more educated person.
My grandparents had only grammar school education maybe went until 5th-6th grade and were poor but they were not obese, not even remotely. So I totally disagree with this. My parents didnt go to high school and were poor. By the time I was in grammar school we poor enough to qualify for food stamps, the free block of cheese, free xmas dinners at the YMCA with a gift and public housing. Neither of my parents or my siblings were obese. So I strongly disagree with this once more. Just saying.0 -
I think there are bound to be spoilers in this thread. Maybe the OP can edit the title to add "Spoilers"?
I was amazed and very happy that Joe's story actually didn't include the surgery - not because I mind the surgery (I'm fascinated with all things medical); it's the fact that he lost so much weight without it (before it) that made me happy. Way to go, Joe!
For the record, I'm a non-secondary educated middle-income moron who can talk circles around nearly everyone I know. I agree that it's not lack of education that's making these people so overweight (and that makes "lower economic status" individuals as a group more overweight than the college-educated). We all KNOW that too much high-calorie food makes us fat; my eight-year-old knows that. And any kindergartener can parrot that "vegetables and fruit are healthy and chips aren't!" Simplistic or not, and giving wiggle room for one's definition of healthy, granted. But come on.
It is a comfort thing, and it is taught. "Turn to food when times are bad." The fact that food gives an automatic rush of sorts, physically, cements the idea. (Case in point: Joe's mother...and you'll notice that there are, generally, other very overweight people in the families of the profiled people in this series.) We all need to turn to SOMETHING. If a person can't get away on vacation, go power-shopping or what-have-you, and/or can't afford therapy which can give the tools to find other comfort strategies, yes, it's as likely as not that said person will turn to something s/he can afford: food, and lots of it.
I finally caught Amber's story and her progress was absolutely amazing. I hope she gets that physical therapy to help her to walk more comfortably.
I think there is a wisdom factor, rather than educational. I've had people here post telling me horrible pseudoscience about my WOE, while insisting it must be true because they learned it in their nutrition class in college. I also know high school dropouts who have still figured out how to stay at maintenance while working in a restaurant kitchen all day. It's not income, either, because there are plenty of families getting by on poverty level or less because they only cook from scratch using basic ingredients instead of paying double or triple to get the same food from McDonald's or the frozen food aisle, with the whole house at normal weights.
People are choosing to eat fast food 3 times a day and snack on entire hungry man dinners in between. Or, they're eating 4000 calories of Lean Cuisine and chasing it with Diet Coke, thinking that because it's diet food, that's all that matters.
There's a show that used to be on in the UK, and I think Oprah's channel aired it here for a while, called Super Sized vs Super Skinny. Some old episodes are on youtube. In the earlier seasons of the show, it would start with each person seeing an entire week's worth of their food dropped into a giant clear cylinder, so they could see how much they were actually eating. Most of them had no clue, and were mortified when they saw the food just keep dropping and dropping. The rest of the show was the overweight and underweight person swapping diets for 3 days, and the overweight ones would be hangry, living on Red Bull and a slice of pizza every day, while they'd watch the underweight one unable to eat even 1/4 of the food on their plate at every meal.
I saw 1 episode of this show on youtube. Eewwww that food tube was just disgusting, and the food looked like vomit. That tube alone would make me not want to eat.0 -
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Its sad. I cant say it motivates me, but definitely scares me. I am pushing 300 lbs and I just keep getting heavier and heavier. But I am hopelessly addicted to sugar, pop, and fast food, and even though my weight depresses me enough to give me suicidal thoughts ever now and again, I still find it incredibly hard to give up what is making me fat and unhappy, because on some level, those things make me happy.Its a struggle, and I
can strongly relate to some of those people.0 -
Did anyone see Joe's story last night (3.11.15)? I was so moved by the fact that he was able to lose 150 POUNDS pre-surgery! I wish the show didn't end before he had lost more of the weight. I need an update on him!
I know someone already asked this upstream, but I have to ask it again -- if someone like Joe is capable of losing 150lbs on his own pre surgery, why do they do the gastric bypass at all instead of just carrying on with diet and exercise? He's doing so well on his own and has already improved his health so much, why cut into him and mess around with his insides when you could just let him carry on?
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Wow, that comes across as really judgemental, but statistics show that if you're poor and have low standards of education, you're more likely to be very obese than a richer, more educated person.
My grandparents had only grammar school education maybe went until 5th-6th grade and were poor but they were not obese, not even remotely. So I totally disagree with this. My parents didnt go to high school and were poor. By the time I was in grammar school we poor enough to qualify for food stamps, the free block of cheese, free xmas dinners at the YMCA with a gift and public housing. Neither of my parents or my siblings were obese. So I strongly disagree with this once more. Just saying.
We're talking about statistics, though, so individual cases don't really mean anything one way or the other.
The facts of the matter are more complicated, as usual, but it's not inaccurate to say that a poor person is more likely to be obese, generally speaking:
http://frac.org/initiatives/hunger-and-obesity/are-low-income-people-at-greater-risk-for-overweight-or-obesity/
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Did anyone see Joe's story last night (3.11.15)? I was so moved by the fact that he was able to lose 150 POUNDS pre-surgery! I wish the show didn't end before he had lost more of the weight. I need an update on him!
I know someone already asked this upstream, but I have to ask it again -- if someone like Joe is capable of losing 150lbs on his own pre surgery, why do they do the gastric bypass at all instead of just carrying on with diet and exercise? He's doing so well on his own and has already improved his health so much, why cut into him and mess around with his insides when you could just let him carry on?
My husband and I were asking each other the same question last night. The only thing I could come up with was that they were motivated by the thought of the surgery, so they were hanging in with the pre-surgery diet, but with that taken away (the possibility of surgery) they might just give up because they felt it would feel as difficult (as the diet) for the rest of their lives without the surgery.
I mean I don't actually know - only they know.
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The data is old as you can see from the years the data was observed but the article states:
According to one recent nationally representative sample, obesity prevalence was higher in lower income and education groups, but the rate of increase in obesity over two decades was faster for higher income and education groups (Singh et al., 2011). For instance, between 1992 and 2008, obesity prevalence increased by 42.3 percent for the lower income group compared to 88.5 percent for the higher income group.
NHANES data from 1971 to 2002 indicate that rates of obesity increased among both the poor and non-poor over a 30 year period, and those rates of obesity were 5.1 to 6.5 percentage points higher among the poor compared to the non-poor (Jollife, 2011). However, this relationship between obesity and poverty “appears to no longer exist” as more recent NHANES data (2003 to 2006) suggest no difference in obesity rates between the two groups. In addition, rates of obesity increased by 62 percent among the poor and by 155 percent among the non-poor from 1971 to 2006.
National data from over 3 decades (1971 to 2002) suggests a weakening association between SES (based on the poverty income ratio) and child obesity over time, especially among adolescents (Wang & Zhang, 2006).0
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