3 Exercises For A Strong/Aesthetic Physique
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Therealobi1 wrote: »DeguelloTex wrote: »
It's a metaphor.Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?!
pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!DeguelloTex wrote: »
It's a metaphor.Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!yopeeps025 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!
Oyyyyy........please read the community guidelines if you're unsure of what one is.....
LOL I cannot believe she said I am not white. Where was the word knight that follows the word white?
Should we be talking about this? Are we allowed to? It is interesting how a black knight is bad and a white night is good. Not trying to make this into a racial debate.
IDK OP already ruined this thread in my opinion and now it's pure entertainment with what else follows.
No racial debate needed just advised I am not white.
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MamaBirdBoss wrote: »And...um, I'm a butt girl.
"Huge capped delts" are something gym bros love. Women like aesthetics over bulk. And nice legs and butt are...mmm. LOL.
And...dude...we had the same max for squats! How cute is that??? I did 350 back in high school. Scared the pee out of me (no one there could spot me, and we didn't have proper power racks) so I mostly stuck with high reps at 250 instead--3x12. My thighs were 19.5". So I'm not sure why yours had so much hypertrophy for so little weight.
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Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!
....and your point is??0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »MamaBirdBoss wrote: »And...um, I'm a butt girl.
"Huge capped delts" are something gym bros love. Women like aesthetics over bulk. And nice legs and butt are...mmm. LOL.
And...dude...we had the same max for squats! How cute is that??? I did 350 back in high school. Scared the pee out of me (no one there could spot me, and we didn't have proper power racks) so I mostly stuck with high reps at 250 instead--3x12. My thighs were 19.5". So I'm not sure why yours had so much hypertrophy for so little weight.
250 @ 3x12 in hs??????0 -
_dracarys_ wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »DeguelloTex wrote: »
It's a metaphor.Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!DeguelloTex wrote: »
It's a metaphor.Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!yopeeps025 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!
Oyyyyy........please read the community guidelines if you're unsure of what one is.....
LOL I cannot believe she said I am not white. Where was the word knight that follows the word white?
Should we be talking about this? Are we allowed to? It is interesting how a black knight is bad and a white night is good. Not trying to make this into a racial debate.
IDK OP already ruined this thread in my opinion and now it's pure entertainment with what else follows.
No racial debate needed just advised I am not white.
It's not even relevant.
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Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!
....and your point is??
The point is I am not white0 -
WTF happened in here?
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MamaBirdBoss wrote: »Can't do 1 and 3 with my trashed shoulders. LOL.
I adore calf raises. Those, it doesn't matter too much if you have a machine or freeweights because the ROM is so small, but throw on 400+ pounds, and I feel like a rockstar....lol!
Loved leg extensions, too, before my knee started bothering me. I think I've managed to stabilize it now. I'd do it with 90lbs. Not a lot, but for some odd reason, all the football players would manage to find angles where they could slam weights around and still have a view when I was on that machine.
They had an INSANE crunch machine. Looked like this: http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/ab-crunch-machine
But it took plates.
I had crazy abs before kids. I could put over 100lbs on that sucker. None of the football team would come NEAR it when I entered the weight room because I would outdo them all.
Basically, I liked the stuff I was good at. I had no real plan except "do stuff." I was 16-18 at the time.
The mythical bad *kitten* has arrived!! Watch out0 -
asflatasapancake wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!
Oyyyyy........please read the community guidelines if you're unsure of what one is.....
LOL I cannot believe she said I am not white. Where was the word knight that follows the word white?
Should we be talking about this? Are we allowed to? It is interesting how a black knight is bad and a white night is good. Not trying to make this into a racial debate.
LOL
Makes statement about the PCness (or not) about talking about race, but says he doesn't want to talk about race.0 -
Therealobi1 wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!
....and your point is??
The point is I am not white
Ok, I'm Italian ..0 -
Therealobi1 wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!
....and your point is??
The point is I am not white
Not a knight either0 -
Therealobi1 wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!
....and your point is??
The point is I am not white
Ok, I'm Italian ..
ME TOO
(I figure I should speak in the stereotypical Italian voice level)0 -
WTF happened in here?
@Therealobi1 is deliberately being obtuse to start a fight supposedly about race in attempts to completely derail the thread. Don't worry, she's been reported.
If you look between the racist arguments (that don't actually seem to exist), there's some good information on lifting.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »MamaBirdBoss wrote: »Can't do 1 and 3 with my trashed shoulders. LOL.
I adore calf raises. Those, it doesn't matter too much if you have a machine or freeweights because the ROM is so small, but throw on 400+ pounds, and I feel like a rockstar....lol!
on the sitting down calf raise free weight machine?
Depended on the weight room. I have a metabolic muscle disorder, so I get weirdly strong for a girl in certain ways. It's mostly useless, but it's fun for that.
I would occasionally load up a bar and do it free weights, but honestly, above 300lbs, it REALLY hurts my shoulders, even with a towel, so I preferred the machines. (You can tell me how wrong I was. I was just dorking around.)
One weight room had this one: http://bodybuilding-wizard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/standing-machine-calf-raise.png
I REALLY preferred to abuse the leg press machine, though, over that because there was less pressure on my shoulders, which was available in the main weight room at our high school: https://gettingbetterstrongerfaster.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/leg-press.jpg
I only had access to a "proper" calf raise machine much later: http://incredibody.com/images/psc43x.jpg
I honestly can't remember how much I was throwing on the last at the time. 3x45 per side was super easy even after baby #1 (and a long weightlifting break). Calf raises are like my "stupid human trick."0 -
Therealobi1 wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!
....and your point is??
The point is I am not white
Ok, I'm Italian ..
Don't you mean you're not Portuguese?0 -
I'm not fat ...cos squats0
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Therealobi1 wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!
....and your point is??
The point is I am not white
Ok, I'm Italian ..
I am German and French.0 -
Therealobi1 wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!
....and your point is??
The point is I am not white
Ok, I'm Italian ..
Nice one. Been to Milan was really nice0
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