3 Exercises For A Strong/Aesthetic Physique
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DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
Just came in here to say YES MA'AM0 -
jdscrubs32 wrote: »I wonder what OP thinks of men doing hip raises
IDK but I know how some women feel about men doing weighted hip thrusts.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »jdscrubs32 wrote: »I wonder what OP thinks of men doing hip raises
IDK but I know how some women feel about men doing weighted hip thrusts.0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?!
pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
To be fair, the thread title is "Strong Aesthetic Physique". She is stating what she finds aesthetically pleasing, and I don't know anyone with a "pancake" behind that had a strong lower body.
To be fair, she claimed to speak for the aesthetic likes of 'most women'.
I will speak for 'most men' and go on record as saying; "we also enjoy having a firm rear end." I hated having no caboose and constantly being reminded by my wife. Since squating that is no longer the case. As stated above....bounce a quarter off my A**!!!!!
@jmule24 she must have married you when you had no caboose so she shouldn't have been complaining:)0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
To be fair, the thread title is "Strong Aesthetic Physique". She is stating what she finds aesthetically pleasing, and I don't know anyone with a "pancake" behind that had a strong lower body.
To be fair, she claimed to speak for the aesthetic likes of 'most women'.
Gotcha, so that constitutes body shaming. I've got to say, while it is a generalization... I've never once come across a female that has favored a pancake behind on a man. Willing to bet if a poll was put in place (especially on this site) pancake would not prevail.
No, describing a body part with a negative term would be body shaming. Putting up a poll using the word pancake as a descriptor would make the poll also body shaming.
It's not hard. Don't speak for most people and dont use pejoratives. Or do and wear the mantle of know it all body shamer proudly.0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
To be fair, the thread title is "Strong Aesthetic Physique". She is stating what she finds aesthetically pleasing, and I don't know anyone with a "pancake" behind that had a strong lower body.
To be fair, she claimed to speak for the aesthetic likes of 'most women'.
I will speak for 'most men' and go on record as saying; "we also enjoy having a firm rear end." I hated having no caboose and constantly being reminded by my wife. Since squating that is no longer the case. As stated above....bounce a quarter off my A**!!!!!
That's currencyist, how very dare you discrimate against those of us who don't have a quarter due to our nationality
I shall complain, as soon as I find someone who gives a squat0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
To be fair, the thread title is "Strong Aesthetic Physique". She is stating what she finds aesthetically pleasing, and I don't know anyone with a "pancake" behind that had a strong lower body.
To be fair, she claimed to speak for the aesthetic likes of 'most women'.
Gotcha, so that constitutes body shaming. I've got to say, while it is a generalization... I've never once come across a female that has favored a pancake behind on a man. Willing to bet if a poll was put in place (especially on this site) pancake would not prevail.
No, describing a body part with a negative term would be body shaming. Putting up a poll using the word pancake as a descriptor would make the poll also body shaming.
It's not hard. Don't speak for most people and dont use pejoratives. Or do and wear the mantle of know it all body shamer proudly.
What about underdeveloped versus developed? Does underdeveloped still hold a negative connotation?
"Most women don't like a man with an underdeveloped behind". Does that read any better?0 -
jdscrubs32 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »jdscrubs32 wrote: »I wonder what OP thinks of men doing hip raises
IDK but I know how some women feel about men doing weighted hip thrusts.
Enlighten me @yopeeps025 please as all I get are strange looks from guys in my gym when I do them unfortunately:(
Oh we are talking about the gym. I usually do hip thrust as an accessory to my squats so to a gym woman who is smart at knowing a workout plan would know why I lift how I lift.
I go to a community college gym that apparently has a lot of people who didn't lift in high school or lay offs. I shouldn't be getting compliments doing 135x10 on back squats.
Thatis funny someone said that to you. When I do my weighed hip thrust the only thing people comment to me about is "you should use a towel to cover the bar." Maybe I should practice the hook grip and smash my thumb in between my body.
I haven't done hip thrust in a gym that has more than 5 guys who I can say are stronger than me. Especially in what I train which is the big three.
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First, I want to congratulate OP on inadvernatly avoid the bro-science of squats raise testosterone so they're necessary. At least I'm assuming he doesn't think that as squats are for women.
Second, I wanted to know, what other exercises belong to genders? Will it be ok for women to do bulgarian squats or pistol squats? Are they pistol squats because you need a pistol, so to speak, to do them?
I did a pull up once, accidentally turned into a man.
do you find your new life easier or harder?
I'm curious- wondering if I should accidentally do pulls ups and maybe I'll accidentally turn into a man too.
if I do squats and pull ups does that make me a hermaphrodite?0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
To be fair, the thread title is "Strong Aesthetic Physique". She is stating what she finds aesthetically pleasing, and I don't know anyone with a "pancake" behind that had a strong lower body.
To be fair, she claimed to speak for the aesthetic likes of 'most women'.
Gotcha, so that constitutes body shaming. I've got to say, while it is a generalization... I've never once come across a female that has favored a pancake behind on a man. Willing to bet if a poll was put in place (especially on this site) pancake would not prevail.
No, describing a body part with a negative term would be body shaming. Putting up a poll using the word pancake as a descriptor would make the poll also body shaming.
It's not hard. Don't speak for most people and dont use pejoratives. Or do and wear the mantle of know it all body shamer proudly.
What about underdeveloped versus developed? Does underdeveloped still hold a negative connotation?
It's all about connotation. I think you're smart enough to see when it is and when it's not. White knighting can sometimes blind people to the obvious however.0 -
asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
To be fair, the thread title is "Strong Aesthetic Physique". She is stating what she finds aesthetically pleasing, and I don't know anyone with a "pancake" behind that had a strong lower body.
To be fair, she claimed to speak for the aesthetic likes of 'most women'.
I will speak for 'most men' and go on record as saying; "we also enjoy having a firm rear end." I hated having no caboose and constantly being reminded by my wife. Since squating that is no longer the case. As stated above....bounce a quarter off my A**!!!!!
That's currencyist, how very dare you discrimate against those of us who don't have a quarter due to our nationality
I shall complain, as soon as I find someone who gives a squat
I see what you did there......... YOU!!!!....You, I like!0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
To be fair, the thread title is "Strong Aesthetic Physique". She is stating what she finds aesthetically pleasing, and I don't know anyone with a "pancake" behind that had a strong lower body.
To be fair, she claimed to speak for the aesthetic likes of 'most women'.
Gotcha, so that constitutes body shaming. I've got to say, while it is a generalization... I've never once come across a female that has favored a pancake behind on a man. Willing to bet if a poll was put in place (especially on this site) pancake would not prevail.
No, describing a body part with a negative term would be body shaming. Putting up a poll using the word pancake as a descriptor would make the poll also body shaming.
It's not hard. Don't speak for most people and dont use pejoratives. Or do and wear the mantle of know it all body shamer proudly.
What about underdeveloped versus developed? Does underdeveloped still hold a negative connotation?
It's all about connotation. I think you're smart enough to see when it is and when it's not. White knighting can sometimes blind people to the obvious however.
I'm not White Knighting though. I am however, agreeing with a generalization based upon my own experiences. If you were the one who made the statement, I'd be reacting in the exact same manner.0 -
First, I want to congratulate OP on inadvernatly avoid the bro-science of squats raise testosterone so they're necessary. At least I'm assuming he doesn't think that as squats are for women.
Second, I wanted to know, what other exercises belong to genders? Will it be ok for women to do bulgarian squats or pistol squats? Are they pistol squats because you need a pistol, so to speak, to do them?
I did a pull up once, accidentally turned into a man.
do you find your new life easier or harder?
I'm curious- wondering if I should accidentally do pulls ups and maybe I'll accidentally turn into a man too.
if I do squats and pull ups does that make me a hermaphrodite?
apparently it does. I'm wondering how this will workout with the new Supreme Court's recent decision.0 -
asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
To be fair, the thread title is "Strong Aesthetic Physique". She is stating what she finds aesthetically pleasing, and I don't know anyone with a "pancake" behind that had a strong lower body.
To be fair, she claimed to speak for the aesthetic likes of 'most women'.
Gotcha, so that constitutes body shaming. I've got to say, while it is a generalization... I've never once come across a female that has favored a pancake behind on a man. Willing to bet if a poll was put in place (especially on this site) pancake would not prevail.
I knew one woman who wanted a pancake booty on a man.0 -
asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
Heh.0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
To be fair, the thread title is "Strong Aesthetic Physique". She is stating what she finds aesthetically pleasing, and I don't know anyone with a "pancake" behind that had a strong lower body.
To be fair, she claimed to speak for the aesthetic likes of 'most women'.
Gotcha, so that constitutes body shaming. I've got to say, while it is a generalization... I've never once come across a female that has favored a pancake behind on a man. Willing to bet if a poll was put in place (especially on this site) pancake would not prevail.
No, describing a body part with a negative term would be body shaming. Putting up a poll using the word pancake as a descriptor would make the poll also body shaming.
It's not hard. Don't speak for most people and dont use pejoratives. Or do and wear the mantle of know it all body shamer proudly.
What about underdeveloped versus developed? Does underdeveloped still hold a negative connotation?
It's all about connotation. I think you're smart enough to see when it is and when it's not. White knighting can sometimes blind people to the obvious however.
speaking of white knights...
how is the view from that ivory tower???0 -
asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she0
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